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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #200 on: November 11, 2018, 02:13:12 pm »
The HT thread on here is comical.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #201 on: November 11, 2018, 02:13:27 pm »
Happy with the win, great to get the 3 points before the other 2 play later.

Yet (my issue isn't just with this season to be fair) but it just doesn't seem to be in our DNA to go for the fucking throat when we have teams ripe for the taking. It goes back years and it's frustrated me for god knows how long. It used to be back when Ferguson's United would absolutely maul teams when they had the chance and we'd be happy with a nice professional 2-0 win under Ged or Rafa when we had the chance to go for it. Now City go for the bollocks every game and again we seem happy to get the job done. Everyone goes on about the clean sheet, but I'd rather win 4/5/6-1 than 2-0. We're just happy to pass the ball about and take it easy when there's still half an hour left. The only season we consistently went for it that I can think of was the 13/14 season when Suarez and Sturridge basically wouldn't have any of that shit and went for it. We could have got a few more today if we went for it, but we just sauntered the ball about in midfield and defence on the halfway line. If I was one of the strikers I'd be tearing my hair out.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #202 on: November 11, 2018, 02:13:31 pm »
Nice routine win.

Not at our best but we get the 3 points.

Sublime finish from The Cube.

30 points from 36 is pretty good and we haven't even clicked into any sort of top gear yet, Hopefully our players come back injury free from this stupid international break and we go again.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #203 on: November 11, 2018, 02:13:52 pm »
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #204 on: November 11, 2018, 02:14:34 pm »
Schwarzer is absolutely heartbroken no interest in objectivity
Is he still whining about their clearly offside goal? I also noticed that the commentators changed their agenda once it was proven the goal was offside. Now it is "maybe the ball was moving when Becker kicked it or he didn't take it from the right spot." Twats. Let's ignore that shocker of a challenge from them as well.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #205 on: November 11, 2018, 02:14:38 pm »
I liked the corner flags.  Our corners were shite but the flags were a nice touch.

Ref was cack again; Chambers should have walked, underdogs allowed to pull and push, pulled back a quickly taken free kick in the 2nd half but allowed us to do it in the first.  inconsistent, which pisses me off more than anything else..

Fab played well, looks forward more than Hendo.  Shaq was sound, Mo getting back up to speed, Virgil and Joe were imperious.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #206 on: November 11, 2018, 02:14:49 pm »
Rooting for Everton and then Man Utd. The ultimate nightmare.

It’s more routing for results to go our way

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #207 on: November 11, 2018, 02:15:52 pm »
That doesn't rhyme

But the message is there, you just need to look closely at all the angles and all the theories that it could be related to. Was it meant for one person or 2 people or a host of people.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #208 on: November 11, 2018, 02:16:44 pm »
Good stuff - professional performance with some decent zip. Very good  response after Belgrade
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #209 on: November 11, 2018, 02:17:19 pm »
Happy with the win, great to get the 3 points before the other 2 play later.

Yet (my issue isn't just with this season to be fair) but it just doesn't seem to be in our DNA to go for the fucking throat when we have teams ripe for the taking. It goes back years and it's frustrated me for god knows how long. It used to be back when Ferguson's United would absolutely maul teams when they had the chance and we'd be happy with a nice professional 2-0 win under Ged or Rafa when we had the chance to go for it. Now City go for the bollocks every game and again we seem happy to get the job done. Everyone goes on about the clean sheet, but I'd rather win 4/5/6-1 than 2-0. We're just happy to pass the ball about and take it easy when there's still half an hour left. The only season we consistently went for it that I can think of was the 13/14 season when Suarez and Sturridge basically wouldn't have any of that shit and went for it. We could have got a few more today if we went for it, but we just sauntered the ball about in midfield and defence on the halfway line. If I was one of the strikers I'd be tearing my hair out.
Ferguson's United won a LOT of games in a similar manner as we did today. What City are doing has seldom been done before; insofar as walloping sides routinely. Btw, they scored 15 fewer goals in the second half of last season compared to the first half. They are playing at their peak right now; let's see how long it lasts. They'll eventually get to a stage where they need a few 2-0 routine wins too.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #210 on: November 11, 2018, 02:17:31 pm »
I'm sure Klopp actually has very good reasons for his approach to rotation and subs, but I can't help but feel the same.

Agree my biggest pet peeve with him.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #211 on: November 11, 2018, 02:17:53 pm »
I'm sure Klopp actually has very good reasons for his approach to rotation and subs, but I can't help but feel the same.

Thanks mate. I agree with you. I think a lot of people enjoy shouting down any criticism following a win, so it's reassuring you see it the same way.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #212 on: November 11, 2018, 02:18:06 pm »
Another 3 points, another clean sheet and back to the top of the table we go.  There's not much more we can ask though I'm sure faults will be found by some.


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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #213 on: November 11, 2018, 02:18:25 pm »
Happy with the win, great to get the 3 points before the other 2 play later.

Yet (my issue isn't just with this season to be fair) but it just doesn't seem to be in our DNA to go for the fucking throat when we have teams ripe for the taking. It goes back years and it's frustrated me for god knows how long. It used to be back when Ferguson's United would absolutely maul teams when they had the chance and we'd be happy with a nice professional 2-0 win under Ged or Rafa when we had the chance to go for it. Now City go for the bollocks every game and again we seem happy to get the job done. Everyone goes on about the clean sheet, but I'd rather win 4/5/6-1 than 2-0. We're just happy to pass the ball about and take it easy when there's still half an hour left. The only season we consistently went for it that I can think of was the 13/14 season when Suarez and Sturridge basically wouldn't have any of that shit and went for it. We could have got a few more today if we went for it, but we just sauntered the ball about in midfield and defence on the halfway line. If I was one of the strikers I'd be tearing my hair out.

But that style of football is what has caused us in the past to blow a 3-0 lead away to Palace, 2-0 leads at home to Sunderland and Newcastle and a 3-1 lead away to Bournemouth. It nearly caused us to blow a 4-1 lead against Man City and a 5-0 lead at one stage against Roma.

The way we’re playing now results in victories without the nervy defence.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #214 on: November 11, 2018, 02:18:30 pm »
2-0 win for Liverpool and Chorley are currently 2-1 at home to Doncaster Rovers in the FA Cup. Happy days! :scarf

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #215 on: November 11, 2018, 02:18:49 pm »
This was a clear win.
Redmen deserve all the praise.
Even when the Atmosphere at Anfield lacking.
Nothing can stop us from being top of the table, for a few hours...
Deserve the three points.

Just wait till we get in top gear.
Forget about the other clubs, focus on us.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #216 on: November 11, 2018, 02:18:53 pm »
Was unable to watch the game but judging by what i've read so far sounds like it was another similar performance? Not as fluid and neat as we want or perhaps expect but ground out the result none the less.

Not sure why things are not clicking fully but happy we keep putting points on the board. If we can do this playing poorly then it is going to be fun when it all clicks again.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #217 on: November 11, 2018, 02:20:14 pm »
Sluggish first half but improved in the second half. Another win and our best start to a league season for a long, long time.
All we can do is keep on winning.

Shaqiri, Robertson and Salah all good today.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #218 on: November 11, 2018, 02:20:21 pm »
Was out this morning,game was 2-0 when I got in - god that BT commentator just does not like us does he? Didn't have a nice word to say in what I heard and was trying to find any excuse why our first shouldn't have stood including questioning was the ball rolling at the free kick.

Two good goals, great to see the speed and awareness on the first and a cracking finish from Shaqiri. Now to support the Red mancs later.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #219 on: November 11, 2018, 02:20:45 pm »
Mane was pretty poor and Firmino pretty anonymous. Mane had a couple of great chances to get through or play someone in and his touch or decision making let him down. 6/10 for them both.

Ok let's disagree. I watched both very closely in the 2nd half and at no time did I think they could have done any better. Both of them had excellent touch and I don't know how you think otherwise.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #220 on: November 11, 2018, 02:21:13 pm »
Was out this morning,game was 2-0 when I got in - god that BT commentator just does not like us does he? Didn't have a nice word to say in what I heard and was trying to find any excuse why our first shouldn't have stood including questioning was the ball rolling at the free kick.
McManaman was the same, sadly.  Showed far more concern when their player got a ball in the face than he did when Salah nearly got his ankle broken.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #221 on: November 11, 2018, 02:22:57 pm »
You know what?

We won

3 points

Clean sheet

International break coming up

Do we really need a thread with people pissing and moaning about 'not being good enough'

Lock it. 

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #222 on: November 11, 2018, 02:23:28 pm »
But that style of football is what has caused us in the past to blow a 3-0 lead away to Palace, 2-0 leads at home to Sunderland and Newcastle and a 3-1 lead away to Bournemouth. It nearly caused us to blow a 4-1 lead against Man City and a 5-0 lead at one stage against Roma.

The way we’re playing now results in victories without the nervy defence.

I know which one I prefer.
I’ll join you in that.

These are exactly the kind of wins that fans have been craving for years. Chelsea and United have won titles by racking up unspectacular victories like this.

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« Reply #223 on: November 11, 2018, 02:24:12 pm »
Are we not 'clicking' or are we actually deliberately conserving energy for the most difficult period of the season ahead of us? We seem to be much more focussed on control of the games and keeping a steady but regulated pressure on the opposition. As they tire, we move up a gear and the pressure becomes even more difficult to fight against. Results are there for now.

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« Reply #224 on: November 11, 2018, 02:25:31 pm »
One small query though.

Did that seem unusually quiet to anyone else? You could hear the players shouts all game.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #225 on: November 11, 2018, 02:26:33 pm »
You know what?

We won

3 points

Clean sheet

International break coming up

Do we really need a thread with people pissing and moaning about 'not being good enough'

Lock it.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #226 on: November 11, 2018, 02:26:48 pm »
Are we not 'clicking' or are we actually deliberately conserving energy for the most difficult period of the season ahead of us? We seem to be much more focussed on control of the games and keeping a steady but regulated pressure on the opposition. As they tire, we move up a gear and the pressure becomes even more difficult to fight against. Results are there for now.

It's a long season with the intensity of the matches increasing again once we come back from the international break, leading into December and early January. Imo, we are conserving our energy and upping it when needed, because of this, because of the previous seasons and what we're attempting to achieve long term. So we don't limp on our knees in April and May.


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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #227 on: November 11, 2018, 02:27:18 pm »
2-0 win for Liverpool and Chorley are currently 2-1 at home to Doncaster Rovers in the FA Cup. Happy days! :scarf

Our very own Herbie Kane has equalised for Doncaster Rovers now. 2-2. Cracking goal as well.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #228 on: November 11, 2018, 02:27:18 pm »
One small query though.

Did that seem unusually quiet to anyone else? You could hear the players shouts all game.

No, Anfield is pretty tame with early kick offs unless it's a big match. Today was even earlier.


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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #229 on: November 11, 2018, 02:28:07 pm »
I actually don't think we were half as bad as people are making out, controlled it although they had chances (we said they were good in attack do shouldn't have been a shock)

Really good second half without being all fireworks. Comfortable, 2 goals, clean sheet, 3 points. Happy days.

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« Reply #230 on: November 11, 2018, 02:28:23 pm »
I’ll join you in that.

These are exactly the kind of wins that fans have been craving for years. Chelsea and United have won titles by racking up unspectacular victories like this.

I third that. United in 2008/2009 won what, 11,12 games by a one goal margin? With Ronaldo,Tevez,Rooney and Berbatov in their side. They had scored less goals than us, lost more matches and ended up winning the league by 4 points despite us beating them twice.


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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #231 on: November 11, 2018, 02:28:42 pm »
Are we not 'clicking' or are we actually deliberately conserving energy for the most difficult period of the season ahead of us? We seem to be much more focussed on control of the games and keeping a steady but regulated pressure on the opposition. As they tire, we move up a gear and the pressure becomes even more difficult to fight against. Results are there for now.

We will get a clearer picture after the international break. At least we get the chance to just concentrate on ourselves and find our rhythm, that is what we're lacking. We did some really nice moves in that game, if that wonderful first half move had ended up as a goal, that could have been the moment we really gained our momentum. Maybe we just need a moment like that to unlock our fizz.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #232 on: November 11, 2018, 02:29:42 pm »
I actually don't think we were half as bad as people are making out, controlled it although they had chances (we said they were good in attack do shouldn't have been a shock)

Really good second half without being all fireworks. Comfortable, 2 goals, clean sheet, 3 points. Happy days.

I agree. They had a great chance through Sessegnon, due to Gomez making a mistake, but in the first half we had a number of chances, Mane had a good chance, Salah almost walked it into the goal after his combination with Firmino, he had a volley after Shaqiri's pass, and Shaqiri was close himself.


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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #233 on: November 11, 2018, 02:30:18 pm »
Good, solid win. Nothing spectacular, but the most important things is that we achieved the victory. Just one thing that I have noticed recently.

Why are our corners so shite? We seem to fail to beat the first man on so many occasions. Baffling really.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #234 on: November 11, 2018, 02:30:56 pm »
A comfortable win in the end, but not a great performance, not helped by the early kick off time.

Thought the ref was shit. Nothing major, but just poor. Salah again being pulled continuously, yet if he places his hand on Mawson its a free kick. Mitrovic has a handful of Gomez shirt and doesn't let go until he is similarly grabbed and Gomez gets booked.

When is a ref going to give us free kicks when are players are pulled back?

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #235 on: November 11, 2018, 02:31:57 pm »
Good, solid win. Nothing spectacular, but the most important things is that we achieved the victory. Just one thing that I have noticed recently.

Why are our corners so shite? We seem to fail to beat the first man on so many occasions. Baffling really.
When we’re not beating the first man, we send it far too high over to the other touchline. Definitely need to improve them.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #236 on: November 11, 2018, 02:32:41 pm »
It's a long season with the intensity of the matches increasing again once we come back from the international break, leading into December and early January. Imo, we are conserving our energy and upping it when needed, because of this, because of the previous seasons and what we're attempting to achieve long term. So we don't limp on our knees in April and May.

It's starting to look like it with every passing game.
I can see us letting loose in games like Manchester United and Everton at home, and again pulling a performance similar to one today against Newcastle for instance. This upcoming block of games, culminating with match at Etihad - is pretty much where season is going to be shaped. Title won't be decided just yet - but it can certainly be lost. We seem to play the long game of make it through the winter close enough to the top, bed in new players, save others from burning out then throw our cards on the table and hit those afterburners.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #237 on: November 11, 2018, 02:35:19 pm »
When we’re not beating the first man, we send it far too high over to the other touchline. Definitely need to improve them.

It’s something which we certainly need to improve on as we have the height and the personnel to make the most of corners. There was one where Trent kicked it out of play in the second half which irked me more than it should have because I know that he’s capable of better.
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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #238 on: November 11, 2018, 02:36:00 pm »
Results from the last international break to the current have been good save for the Redstar fixture away. Collecting 3 points even if we appear to be holding back or almost playing with fear.
Although TAA can be frustrating I will give him kudos for staying positive and looking to play and try things. He can only learn from his mistakes and grow from it.

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Re: PL: Liverpool 2 v Fulham 0 ‘40 Mo, Shaqiri '53
« Reply #239 on: November 11, 2018, 02:36:47 pm »
The set pieces weren't great today but we've scored more goals from set plays than any other side in the league.