Topic: Winning Title #19*

[Barneylfc∗]

Winning the title at Goodison or City can get to fuck. I'd happily draw an away game if it meant having to wait until the following week to win it at home.

[Red Beret]

I'm looking forward to them updating the Champions Wall at the end of the season - might even be earlier.

I reckon they will add a silhouette of the PL trophy and below it will say, League Titles/Premier League Titles to match the European Cup/UEFA Champions League entry.

Those numbers are gonna be spinning like dials soon! 

[Fernando_Torres_Was_Good]

Don't see anywhere near as many fans of other clubs on this forum these days. I remember quite a few Spurs, Arsenal and Utd fans would post fairly regularly back in the Hodgson/Kenny/Brendan eras, at least on the general football page. I wonder what it is about us being the best club side in the world that's keeping them away.

[Desert Red Fox]

Don't see anywhere near as many fans of other clubs on this forum these days. I remember quite a few Spurs, Arsenal and Utd fans would post fairly regularly back in the Hodgson/Kenny/Brendan eras, at least on the general football page. I wonder what it is about us being the best club side in the world that's keeping them away.

I wonder what happened to that manc who went up skiing and never came back

[Sir Capon of Debaser]

We are the best team in the world. Just enjoy it.

[beardsleyismessimk1]

I will cry when I am outside lime street station and we are the champions of England

[Cormack Snr]

: November 8, 2019, 10:02:38 PM »
We are on the up and City are not quite the team of last season, we will win on Sunday and gradually pull further and further ahead and win the league on the weekend of April 4-5th and on the same weekend TIGER ROLL wins his Third Grand National..

LIVERPOOL

                                  31pts
City               H  Win   34pts
Palace            A  Win   37pts
Brighton         H  Win   40pts
Everton          H  Win   43pts
Bournemouth  A  Win   46pts
Watford          H  Win   49pts
Leicester         A  Draw 50pts
Wolves            H Win    53pts
Sheff Utd         H Win    56pts
Spurs              A Draw   57pts
Utd                 H Win     60pts
Wolves            A Win     63pts
West Ham       A Win      66pts
Southampton   H Win     69pts
Norwich           A  Win    72pts
West Ham        H  Win    75pts
Watford            A  Win    78pts
Bournemouth    H Win     81pts
Everton            A Draw    82pts
Palace              H Win      85pts
City                  A Win     88pts  Win the league on the same weekend TIGER ROLL Wins his Third Grand National
Villa                 H Win     91pts
Brighton           A Win     94pts
Burnley            H Win     97pts
Arsenal            A Win     100pts
Chelsea           H Win     103pts
Newcastle        A Draw   104pts

MANCHESTER CITY

25pts
Libpool   A  Lose     25pts
Chelsea  H Draw     26pts
Newc      A Win       29pts
Burnley  A  Win       32pts
Utd        H  Win       35pts
Arsenal  A  Draw      36pts
Leicester H Draw      37pts
Wolves    A Draw      38pts
Sheff Utd H Win        41pts
Everton H  Win          44pts
Villa      A  Win          47pts
Palace   H   Win         50pts
Sheff Utd  A  Win       53pts
Spurs    A   Lose        53pts
West Ham  H  Win      56pts
Leicester  A  Draw      57pts
Arsenal   H   Win        60pts
Utd  A   Draw             61pts
Burnley  H  Win          64pts
Chelsea A  Draw         65pts
Liverpool  H  Lose       65pts
Southampton A  Win   68pts
Newcastle H  Win        71pts
Brighton  A   Win         74pts
Bournemouth H  Win    77pts
Watford  A   Win          80pts
Norwich  H   Win          83pts

Still on track Mighty Reds and just need TIGER to jump 30 fences and come home in front again for my near 100/1 bet with a few bookies..

[VictoryFor96]

Can sheffield nick some points today? That ll let us make celebrations earlier.

[VictoryFor96]

I'm looking forward to them updating the Champions Wall at the end of the season - might even be earlier.

I reckon they will add a silhouette of the PL trophy and below it will say, League Titles/Premier League Titles to match the European Cup/UEFA Champions League entry.

Those numbers are gonna be spinning like dials soon! 

I think theres no need another silhouette on the wall.

They ll just update league titles to 19

[red whine]

We play three league games now before City play again which is spurs away a week Sunday.

[TAA66]

I think theres no need another silhouette on the wall.

They ll just update league titles to 19

They’ll definitely update the silhouette to the PL trophy, and it would make sense to.

[TAA66]

We play three league games now before City play again which is spurs away a week Sunday.

Could be 22 points clear by then!

[Onward Liverpudlian]

I think theres no need another silhouette on the wall.

They ll just update league titles to 19

Just had a peek at the Arsenal, Chelsea, City and Utd websites to see how they present their league title honours list. From what I can see three of them hardly make any distinction between their pre-1992 football league 1st division titles and premier league titles labelling them all under 'League Champions', the remaining one does bang on a bit about '13' premier league titles and '7' football league first division titles but does not forget the combined total of '20' when it suits them...

How should we present an incoming new league title on our champions wall?

I see 3 options one of which is a big NOOOOO! ;

1. 2 seperate entries - a number '1' under 'FA Premier League' heading with silhouette of premier league trophy and another entry next to it a number '18' under 'League titles' as now with silhouette of the football league trophy (NO - this is what the red mancs and Sky would want us to do 'football began in 1992' etc)

2. a single '19' under 'League titles' heading as now with silhouettes of both old fl trophy and pl trophy squeezed in together (Not my choice, a bit messy but doable)

3. a single '19' under 'League titles' heading as now but silhouette of Premier league trophy replacing the old football league trophy which was last used for the top flight champions by Leeds Utd in 1992 (keeps it simple and would annoy our red manc friends)

It's got to be option 2 or 3 but which one?

[koptommy93]

Everything is saying that it's over, but I can't bring myself to believe it.

[duvva 💅]

: November 8, 2019, 10:02:38 PM »
We are on the up and City are not quite the team of last season, we will win on Sunday and gradually pull further and further ahead and win the league on the weekend of April 4-5th and on the same weekend TIGER ROLL wins his Third Grand National..

LIVERPOOL

                                  31pts
City               H  Win   34pts
Palace            A  Win   37pts
Brighton         H  Win   40pts
Everton          H  Win   43pts
Bournemouth  A  Win   46pts
Watford          H  Win   49pts
Leicester         A  Draw 50pts
Wolves            H Win    53pts
Sheff Utd         H Win    56pts
Spurs              A Draw   57pts
Utd                 H Win     60pts
Wolves            A Win     63pts
West Ham       A Win      66pts
Southampton   H Win     69pts
Norwich           A  Win    72pts
West Ham        H  Win    75pts
Watford            A  Win    78pts
Bournemouth    H Win     81pts
Everton            A Draw    82pts
Palace              H Win      85pts
City                  A Win     88pts  Win the league on the same weekend TIGER ROLL Wins his Third Grand National
Villa                 H Win     91pts
Brighton           A Win     94pts
Burnley            H Win     97pts
Arsenal            A Win     100pts
Chelsea           H Win     103pts
Newcastle        A Draw   104pts

MANCHESTER CITY

25pts
Libpool   A  Lose     25pts
Chelsea  H Draw     26pts
Newc      A Win       29pts
Burnley  A  Win       32pts
Utd        H  Win       35pts
Arsenal  A  Draw      36pts
Leicester H Draw      37pts
Wolves    A Draw      38pts
Sheff Utd H Win        41pts
Everton H  Win          44pts
Villa      A  Win          47pts
Palace   H   Win         50pts
Sheff Utd  A  Win       53pts
Spurs    A   Lose        53pts
West Ham  H  Win      56pts
Leicester  A  Draw      57pts
Arsenal   H   Win        60pts
Utd  A   Draw             61pts
Burnley  H  Win          64pts
Chelsea A  Draw         65pts
Liverpool  H  Lose       65pts
Southampton A  Win   68pts
Newcastle H  Win        71pts
Brighton  A   Win         74pts
Bournemouth H  Win    77pts
Watford  A   Win          80pts
Norwich  H   Win          83pts

Still on track Mighty Reds and just need TIGER to jump 30 fences and come home in front again for my near 100/1 bet with a few bookies..

Good luck with your bets fella. Though, I’m sure nothing will quite beat seeing our mighty captain and your favourite player lifting that trophy! 😀

[wige]

I wonder if Klopp has a talk with the players to reset hearts and minds after Sunday. I have total faith in their professionalism and commitment to the "next game" mantra, but it would only be human for them to have some sort of reaction to the outburst of joy from Anfield after the United game.

I can't really see anything other than them getting their heads down, recovering, focussing, preparing and starting again against Wolves, but it will be a big challenge in it's own right, let alone if we even slip one or two percent after Sunday's game.

[deFacto please, you bastards]

I wonder if Klopp has a talk with the players to reset hearts and minds after Sunday. I have total faith in their professionalism and commitment to the "next game" mantra, but it would only be human for them to have some sort of reaction to the outburst of joy from Anfield after the United game.

I can't really see anything other than them getting their heads down, recovering, focussing, preparing and starting again against Wolves, but it will be a big challenge in it's own right, let alone if we even slip one or two percent after Sunday's game.

Considering what we did last year, and the obstacles they've been through, I don't think this is an issue. They've proven that countless times.

[wige]

Considering what we did last year, and the obstacles they've been through, I don't think this is an issue. They've proven that countless times.

I don't really doubt it at all. Henderson, Milner and Virg (to name just three) won't let anyone get carried away or relax either. The mentality and focus is patently, blindingly obvious. Just wondering whether Klopp mentions the song and uses it as an opportunity to, once again, focus minds. There's no way they all speak the party line as consistently as they do/have without it being discussed and cemented as an ethos previously.

Only reason I bring it up is that prior to Sunday, all this talk has been pretty much restricted, from what I've seen/heard, to whispers amongst friends, posts on here, and almost coded comments on podcasts. It certainly wasn't being sung by 50'000 Liverpool fans at the top of their voice during prime time football viewing for the entire country to hear as the whole team celebrated a late confirmatory goal against our biggest rivals! Seems like an opportune moment to me for the Manager to remind them - as he did post match - the fans can sing, the fans can party, the fans can brag - but you, you do nothing but focus on recovery and preparation for Wolves.

[So… Howard Philips]

Kill’em all, let God sort’em out!

Aah the slaughter of the Cathars at Beziers.

[Red Beret]

It's got to be option 2 or 3 but which one?

I would say option 2. Both trophies side by side with 19 underneath. There's plenty of room to adjust the wall and it's perfectly logical.

That said, although I think there'd be an outcry if they started at 1, I can't rule it out either. The club might take it as an incentive to overhaul 13, but I think it shows United way too much respect.

[Samie]

Erm it won't be #1 as this would be our #19th top flight title. The other 18 didn't magically get wiped out with the creation of the Premier League.

Man Utd don't say "20 times" because they think they've won 20 Premier leagues. 

[Red Beret]

Erm it won't be #1 as this would be our #19th top flight title. The other 18 didn't magically get wiped out with the creation of the Premier League.

Man Utd don't say "20 times" because they think they've won 20 Premier leagues. 

I know that and you know that, which is why I reckon it will be option #2

[rushyman]

Winning the title at Goodison or City can get to fuck. I'd happily draw an away game if it meant having to wait until the following week to win it at home.

I’ll just take winning it

Yep, I’m still there. Can’t tell you how much I’m hating the ‘we’ve won it’ vibe. After everything we’ve seen aswell

[rodderzzz]

I’ll just take winning it

Yep, I’m still there. Can’t tell you how much I’m hating the ‘we’ve won it’ vibe. After everything we’ve seen aswell

Mate it’s over, if we don’t win it from here we’ll never win it. It’s done and dusted

[Son of Spion]

I’ll just take winning it

Yep, I’m still there. Can’t tell you how much I’m hating the ‘we’ve won it’ vibe. After everything we’ve seen aswell

Same here.

All that matters is winning it. Anything on top of that would simply be icing.

[HiTs]

Love how the ex-Manc & ex-Arsenal players are changing the media narrative to 'they can't be considered greatest ever team until they win many titles'.

If we smash the 100 point record, highest number of wins, longest unbeaten streak.....there is no way you can say they aren't the GREATEST!

[Peabee]

Love how the ex-Manc & ex-Arsenal players are changing the media narrative to 'they can't be considered greatest ever team until they win many titles'.

If we smash the 100 point record, highest number of wins, longest unbeaten streak.....there is no way you can say they aren't the GREATEST!

Exactly. Given season to season, players are added or sold, if win the league in 2021 and 2022, each team will be in some way different to the previous.

[kesey]

I wonder if Klopp has a talk with the players to reset hearts and minds after Sunday. I have total faith in their professionalism and commitment to the "next game" mantra, but it would only be human for them to have some sort of reaction to the outburst of joy from Anfield after the United game.

I can't really see anything other than them getting their heads down, recovering, focussing, preparing and starting again against Wolves, but it will be a big challenge in it's own right, let alone if we even slip one or two percent after Sunday's game.

Good post but not sure what the last bit means.

There's a lot of stuff riding on our players right now . It's going to make them or break them as they now what it means to us all.

All we and they to do is to stay focused and grounded.

[kesey]

Let's breathe this fucker in.

[muszka]

We have 3 games till City play Spurs away. We could be 22 points ahead of them in 10 days. Get at least 7/9 and Pep is surely gonna give up on the league because then we'd need to lose more than half of our games (7 out of 13) for them to catch us.

[lamonti]

Love how the ex-Manc & ex-Arsenal players are changing the media narrative to 'they can't be considered greatest ever team until they win many titles'.

If we smash the 100 point record, highest number of wins, longest unbeaten streak.....there is no way you can say they aren't the GREATEST!

And if we do that, they'll move the goalposts again. Seriously not worth considering this kind of stuff. Judging teams across eras is irrelevant. Just enjoy this season. Then next. Then next.

[Hunts Cross]

We have 3 games till City play Spurs away. We could be 22 points ahead of them in 10 days. Get at least 7/9 and Pep is surely gonna give up on the league because then we'd need to lose more than half of our games (7 out of 13) for them to catch us.

He has said more than once that we can't be caught and his focus is to ensure CL qualification.

[spider-neil]

Love how the ex-Manc & ex-Arsenal players are changing the media narrative to 'they can't be considered greatest ever team until they win many titles'.

If we smash the 100 point record, highest number of wins, longest unbeaten streak.....there is no way you can say they aren't the GREATEST!

The sign of great champions is consistency. If you're putting this team up against the greatest Liverpool teams of the 70's and 80's then is 1 league title enough to say this team is better than all of them? Anyway, it's all subjective opinion as it's hard to judge teams that played in different eras.

[kennedy81]

Mad that we've won the league and haven't even played one team (West Ham ) yet.
That has to be a first.

[RobbieRedman]

City slashed from 66/1 into 33's 

[Crosby Nick]

Mad that we've won the league and haven't even played one team (West Ham ) yet.
That has to be a first.

In 87/88 we didn’t play Forest until Easter Saturday (and lost). We then played them soon after at him in the famous 5-0 (which must have been rearranged). We weren’t mathematically champions when we first played them but it was probably more in the bag than this is now.

[Mighty_Red]

How should we present an incoming new league title on our champions wall?

I see 3 options one of which is a big NOOOOO! ;

1. 2 seperate entries - a number '1' under 'FA Premier League' heading with silhouette of premier league trophy and another entry next to it a number '18' under 'League titles' as now with silhouette of the football league trophy (NO - this is what the red mancs and Sky would want us to do 'football began in 1992' etc)

2. a single '19' under 'League titles' heading as now with silhouettes of both old fl trophy and pl trophy squeezed in together (Not my choice, a bit messy but doable)

3. a single '19' under 'League titles' heading as now but silhouette of Premier league trophy replacing the old football league trophy which was last used for the top flight champions by Leeds Utd in 1992 (keeps it simple and would annoy our red manc friends)

It's got to be option 2 or 3 but which one?

It obviously shouldn't be 1) and I would lean towards 2) but I'm going to add a 4th option with the old FL trophy drawn inside the new Premier League Trophy. To visualise it, simply add the crown etc on the outside of the FL trophy

I believe the new trophy is much bigger than the old one so it should work, and we could always slightly reduce the size of the old one to make it fit properly. I think this option would symbolise the fact that it is one and the same competition and that the look of both trophies are important, but not as important as the number underneath them.

Might need to try to photoshop it to see how it looks, though I think it can wait a few more weeks for obvious reasons.

Mate it’s over, if we don’t win it from here we’ll never win it. It’s done and dusted

Just remember the Kop sang "We're gonna win"  not "We've won". We stay humble and simply smile at the rest

[spider-neil]

Talking about the league as if we've already won it makes me uncomfortable, but whatever. The most important thing is the team approach games like there is plenty of work still to do and they don't get complacent. Opinions on a forum have little bearing in the grand scheme of things.

[liverbloke]

Talking about the league as if we've already won it makes me uncomfortable, but whatever. The most important thing is the team approach games like there is plenty of work still to do and they don't get complacent. Opinions on a forum have little bearing in the grand scheme of things.

Now you tell me - I'm outta here 

[Sangria]

Talking about the league as if we've already won it makes me uncomfortable, but whatever. The most important thing is the team approach games like there is plenty of work still to do and they don't get complacent. Opinions on a forum have little bearing in the grand scheme of things.

Talking about the league as if it's already won, whilst beating myself about the head with a cricket bat, makes me uncomfortable.