Topic: Wrexham FC

[Kenny's Jacket]

Been enjoying the new ones. The young girl who lost her dad and plays for the women's team, just brilliant. So emotional.

I think it might have been mentioned on here in the past but I'm pretty sure Humphrey is a red.

Yeah he got Rob McIllheney into Footie via the Barcelona game.

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[gazzalfc]

Back to back promotions confirmed.

League one may be a step too far on their current investment and the financial rules for them to work with. But still a nice story

[Peabee]

Fantastic achievement.

[drmick]

Back to back promotions confirmed.

League one may be a step too far on their current investment and the financial rules for them to work with. But still a nice story

I think they have a good chance at consolidating League One with the quality of some of their players, their manager and Shaun Harvey would be quite canny too I suspect.

[Terry de Niro]

I think they have a good chance at consolidating League One with the quality of some of their players, their manager and Shaun Harvey would be quite canny too I suspect.

Agreed. Not a massive gulf between both divisions.

[Drinks Sangria]

I can’t put my finger on why, but I can’t stand Phil Parkinson.

[Pistolero]

Brilliant achievement, made up for them.....I eagerly await the Welcome To Wrexham episodes documenting it....

[Kenny's Jacket]

Agreed. Not a massive gulf between both divisions.

I was thinking this myself, I expect them to be aiming for a play off place

I saw Tranmere the other week, they have improved from earlier in the season

[Terry de Niro]

I was thinking this myself, I expect them to be aiming for a play off place

I saw Tranmere the other week, they have improved from earlier in the season

Mainly thanks to Nigel Adkins, although they still can turn a bit from Jekyll to Hyde or vice versa.

[MBL?]

Have they released a doc about the last promotion yet?

[gazzalfc]

Have they released a doc about the last promotion yet?

Yes. That was the last series on Disney+.

The newest one will cover this season (though the on field action will not be as heavy because of TV rights of league football)

[The G in Gerrard]

Well done them.

[Statto Red]

Yes. That was the last series on Disney+.

The newest one will cover this season (though the on field action will not be as heavy because of TV rights of league football)

Season 3 is being released 2nd May, apparently only 8 episodes long though, it's being released earlier [rather than September] so it's closer to the events that's happening around the club.

[Wabaloolah]

Well done Wrexham, back to back promotions is a great achievement

[classycarra]

Congratulations to Stockport County, for their much more impressive (and authentic, and less financially doped) achievement getting promoted to league 1!

Just seen they're managed by Dave Challinor, which was a blast from the past - master of the long throw before anyone heard of Rory Delap or Pulis

[ScouserAtHeart]

Haven't they just outspent everyone though? Man City on a much smaller scale

[SK8 Red]

Congratulations to Stockport County, for their much more impressive (and authentic, and less financially doped) achievement getting promoted to league 1!

Just seen they're managed by Dave Challinor, which was a blast from the past - master of the long throw before anyone heard of Rory Delap or Pulis

Nice post and I was there today. Stockport have spent but having not spent for 14 years and falling to tier 6 football, then I just see it as catching up. Proper football club with local owner who is also energising the town and ridding us of 115 FC supporters hopefully. Fair play to Wrexham and looking forward to the guard of honour on the 27th in their backyard

[Hedley Lamarr]

Haven't they just outspent everyone though? Man City on a much smaller scale

They have, their wages would be high in League One, let alone League Two, James Maclean is on a 'Championship' level salary. They're allowed to spend 55% of revenue and their revenue dwarfed any other side in League 2. Eventually they'll get to a level where financially they're on an even keel with the rest of the league they're in, likely to be the Championship, it's difficult to see them getting bigger than that, although Reynolds and Mcelhenney seem very good at marketing and have turned Wrexham into a brand so it's not inconceivable that a lot more money gets pumped in via endorsements and stuff.

My guess would be they get to the Championship where they stagnate.

[Fromola]

Congratulations to Stockport County, for their much more impressive (and authentic, and less financially doped) achievement getting promoted to league 1!

Just seen they're managed by Dave Challinor, which was a blast from the past - master of the long throw before anyone heard of Rory Delap or Pulis

Stockport have spent relatively big to get from non league to League One, they've got a rich owner.

Wrexham's budget is ludicrous though. They had a wage budget higher than most League One clubs while in non league last season and lost over 5 million quid, their wage bill would have increased a lot more with the likes of James Mcclean signing and a big new contract for Mullin and the like. Not exactly being run prudently. They're more the Man City of League Two and non league last season. or a bigger version of Salford. The owners are charging interest on the loans they've put in as well and they're making huge losses. Like Salford it's all boosted PR with the disneyfied TV show.

Glad for both fanbases though, as they're two League One level clubs and fanbases who've been through the ringer over the last 15-20 years. Stockport were going well in The Championship in the 90s. They're back where they should be, but compare it to Luton who rose through the leagues a lot more authentically without just writing cheques. With the budget they'll have they should be promoted next season, or at least play offs.

[Drinks Sangria]

Leaving Wrexham aside and don’t know how anyone can say Stockport County haven’t been financially doped. If it wasn’t for Wrexham’s even more egregious spending, people would be talking about how Stockport have bought their way up the leagues.

They’ve both done it, fair enough, they’re not big enough clubs to sustain it above League One and it will be tough for them both next season. I wish them both well but let’s call a spade a spade, they’re both financially doped up to the gills.

[Fromola]

Leaving Wrexham aside and don’t know how anyone can say Stockport County haven’t been financially doped. If it wasn’t for Wrexham’s even more egregious spending, people would be talking about how Stockport have bought their way up the leagues.

They’ve both done it, fair enough, they’re not big enough clubs to sustain it above League One and it will be tough for them both next season. I wish them both well but let’s call a spade a spade, they’re both financially doped up to the gills.

There's always clubs at that level who are. Salford bought their way out of non league but have struggled to do the same in League Two.

Difference with Wrexham is the numbers involved. Their non league wage bill last season was insane. It was higher than Rotherham and Plymouth who got promoted to The Championship. Increased further still this season, it blows everyone out the water in League Two. I don't know but i'm not sure if Stockport's budget is the 2nd highest and much ahead of the next clubs. The numbers won't be as stark, clubs like Notts County and Mansfield will be close enough budget wise but they've still gone out and by the looks of it won the division with a much lower budget than Wrexham. In monetary terms Wrexham not comfortably winning that league is a failure.

[disgraced cake]

Not a massive follower of lower league stuff but I think there's definite truth to that idea that getting out of the National League is harder than getting out of League 2. Knew they'd be around the top this season with their firepower but they looked to be leaking goals still at the start of the season, Ben Foster was still there too before retiring again. I feel like there was a bit less fanfare this time around, maybe that's allowed them to just get on with things and seal another promotion without all the madness of the last two seasons coming round again.

Interesting to see how they do in League 1 but with their budget I can see them getting promotion again within the next few years. Mullin has never really played at that level so might be a test to see if the goals carry over at the same level. They can probably attract some players who'll really stand out at that level, I'm talking ones who might not long be done at Premier League level. Maybe get some good young players in on loan from the top academies and they're building to go up again. The difference between a lot of League 1 and League 2 sides won't be massive but I imagine the teams at the top of League 1 would mostly batter the ones at the bottom of League 2. If you're a midtable side in either league with a constantly changing set of players that's where I reckon it's probably hard to judge at times.

[MBL?]

Yes. That was the last series on Disney+.

The newest one will cover this season (though the on field action will not be as heavy because of TV rights of league football)

Thanks. Watched a few and it's not as good as the first.