Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[kavah]

...Have long suspected Naby Keita would be abducted by aliens just as he was about
to hit peak fitness.

right, the last time he was on a good run he was caught up in the coup d'etat 

[Machae]

Reckon it'll be longer, hope im wrong. Klopp is usually quite optimistic with timeframes. but he's very reserved on Thiago

I think Klopp is very vague about everyone these days, until they're back in training (or close to that stage). Given the time frames it's obviously a grade 2 strain (to his hip flexor, apparently) so I don't see any reason it'd take longer than 6 weeks. I'd say he'll probably be back in training after the international break unless there's a setback.

Told you 

[JasonF]

Told you 

He is training but not team training. Sounds like he's doing work on his own which is a precursor to returning to team training. It's only just been 6 weeks, hopefully he's fairly close.

[redgriffin73]

‘Rib injury’.

Rumour has it he’s done a Prince.

[Dr. Beaker]

Have long suspected Naby Keita would be abducted by aliens just as he was about
to hit peak fitness.

Another abductor stress response problem then.

[A Red Abroad]

Another abductor stress response problem then.

 

[Fromola]

This is a very interesting piece on what might be wrong  with Bajcetic…

https://www.thisisanfield.com/2023/03/explaining-stefan-bajcetics-3-injury-possibilities-after-adductor-stress-response/

Thigh splints…. Ouch.


More detail on this here

https://www.ajronline.org/doi/full/10.2214/ajr.177.3.1770673
This fits the idea of him having little pain…

So this seems to be precautionary in a young player so they don’t have long term effects on their career.

All these stress related injuries. The medical team need their own wellbeing officer.

[classycarra]

All these stress related injuries. The medical team need their own wellbeing officer.

wouldn't it be the conditioning team? medical team sounds like they only get involved once an injury is identified/a player feels something

in an ideal world it'd all be working in the same direction, with medical side consulting on what the conditioning workload should be (and vice versa feeding back conditioning timeline goals for players' recoveries)

[lionel_messias]

Another abductor stress response problem then.

(this is why Rawk is best of the best)

[Machae]

He is training but not team training. Sounds like he's doing work on his own which is a precursor to returning to team training. It's only just been 6 weeks, hopefully he's fairly close.

I'm going to bet that he isn't, just a feeling. Maybe see him end of April if we're lucky or start of May

[JasonF]

I'm going to bet that he isn't, just a feeling. Maybe see him end of April if we're lucky or start of May

He might be a slow healer but I think an extra month is pushing it.

[Machae]

He might be a slow healer but I think an extra month is pushing it.

See you again in a month   

[farawayred]

I'm going to bet that he isn't, just a feeling. Maybe see him end of April if we're lucky or start of May

if Klopp said that, I'd take it as he's coming back by Christmas.

[So… Howard Philips]

So Diaz still unavailable but fit soon and Nunez cut his foot against Madrid. Never realised that.

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/jurgen-klopps-fitness-update-diaz-nunez-keita-thiago-and-gomez

Oh and a stomach bug doing the rounds. Sound like the canteen at Kirkby needs a visit from EH.

[GreatEx]

I thought the bug was in the Dutch camp, Cody was definitely affected. Virgil thought it was beneath him to try and catch it. 

[DelTrotter]

Thiago trained yesterday but no for tomorrow, Diaz no for tomorrow, unlikely Arsenal but ok after that

[PhiLFC#1]

I'd just save Diaz for next season at this point, get him back to 100% then like a new signing

[GreatEx]

That's what FSG will say.

[Nick110581]

I'd just save Diaz for next season at this point, get him back to 100% then like a new signing

He has to play this season.

[killer-heels]

Part of him being ready for next season is playing this season.

[Sharado]

I'd just save Diaz for next season at this point, get him back to 100% then like a new signing

That's the summer budget gone, then.

[redgriffin73]

Thiago trained yesterday but no for tomorrow, Diaz no for tomorrow, unlikely Arsenal but ok after that

Bugger, was hoping he might at least make the bench for Arsenal.

[newterp]

Ugh. Looks like a zero for 3 week in the making.

[Draex]

[JasonF]

See you again in a month   

[So… Howard Philips]

Thought that was a suntanned, stubbly chinned Lallana at first glance.

[Machae]

Haha, my assertion was always to see him on the bench or starting. So later part of April still likely

[Machae]

Will have a fully fit squad by the time the season ends,

[killer-heels]

Would start Thiago on Sunday.

[So… Howard Philips]

Will have a fully fit squad by the time the season ends,

And then we have a few weeks on intensive pre season training .

Lord help us and save us.

[Schmidt]

Will have a fully fit squad by the time the season ends,

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

[Machae]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

Wed be much better off if Diaz wasn't injured

[SamLad]

Would start Thiago on Sunday.

I don't think he's fit, is he?

[CraigDS]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

I mean missing your best midfielder, and best winger, to injury is kinda still a problem.

[SamLad]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

I think you're putting a hugely positive spin on things there mate.

[redgriffin73]

Mo, Diogo and Gomez not in training today apparently.

[Knight]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

Thiago (pre Bajcetic’s emergence) was our only CM who looked competent for most of the season, and the only one making challenges and winning duels. We’d have been better with him in the team. We’ve also been forced into running Henderson into the ground over the last couple of weeks and he barely has one 90 in him these days, let alone 3 starts in 9 days it whatever it’s been.

[decosabute]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

Not at all true. In addition to the two huge long term absences (our best midifelder and best winger), we've had Bajcetic drop out for the season, Keita disappear yet again, and other niggles to Darwin, Jones and Gomez in recent weeks. Also illness for Van Dijk and Elliott vs Chelsea.

Even now, we still have a worse than average situation with players out. Just because it's not the absolute crisis it's been for most of the season doesn't mean it's not an issue.

[DelTrotter]

Injuries aren't really the problem any more, we've had a variety of midfielders and forwards available for a while, it hasn't helped.

Yep, we were terrible with Luis and there's no good midfield combination we can field regardless of who's fit though Thiago is obviously still great but not great enough to do the work of 3 players. We obviously want better luck with injuries next season but hopefully no one at the club is deluding themselves that that's all we need and everything is fine again.

[killer-heels]

Klopp has said the injuries and tiredness things are not an excuse. He said they may have been a factor earlier on but since the world cup they are absolutely not factors.