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Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #63560 on:** July 22, 2020, 03:16:42 pm »

Canelo is the dog's bollocks for me. So much fun to watch. Always brings heat. Love his style. He does do the A-side bollocks to the max but then in his biggest fight he had to come in at 152lbs due to the demands of a bigger star so I guess torch has passed in that respect.

I happen to think GGG is a bit overrated, but far far far far far away from being a hype job. Feasted on too many Latvians, wasting his prime years, shouting that he was avoided. Was unlucky in first fight against Canelo but then I thought both Jacobs on dyvechenko beat him so swings and roundabouts and all that

1892tillforever · « **Reply #63561 on:** July 22, 2020, 03:18:14 pm »

Quote from: 7777 on July 22, 2020, 02:55:34 pm

He is definitely a modern ATG for me

Just had a scoot at Boxrec to refresh my memory...

4 weight world champion, current P4P #1, biggest deal in sports history at the time of signing it

56 fights, 53 wins, 2 draws and the only ever recorded loss was to Floyd!

World titles held (current): Unified WBA (Super), WBC (Franchise) Ring magazine and lineal middleweight champion and WBA (Regular) super middleweight champion

World titles held (past): WBA (Unified), WBC, WBO and Ring junior middleweight champion, IBF middleweight title, WBO light heavyweight titleholder

Look at some of the names on his resume, some of which are also going to be future HOF'ers. He beat Sugar Shane as a young pup 8 years ago, even Kermit Cintron was a beast back then! He certainly doesn't have a lot left to prove IMO

Canelo Alvarez def. Sergey Kovalev by 11th-round KO   Nov. 2, 2019
Canelo Alvarez def. Daniel Jacobs by unanimous decision   May 4, 2019
Canelo Alvarez def. Rocky Fielding by third-round TKO   Dec. 15, 2018
Canelo Alvarez def. Gennadiy Golovkin by majority decision   Sept. 15, 2018
Canelo Alvarez and Gennadiy Golovkin, split draw   Sept. 16, 2017
Canelo Alvarez def. Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. by unanimous decision   May 6, 2017
Canelo Alvarez def. Liam Smith by ninth-round KO   Sept. 17, 2016
Canelo Alvarez def. Amir Khan by sixth-round KO   May 7, 2016
Canelo Alvarez def. Miguel Cotto by unanimous decision   Nov. 21, 2015
Canelo Alvarez def. James Kirkland by third-round KO   May 9, 2015
Canelo Alvarez def. Erislandy Lara by split decision   July 12, 2014
Canelo Alvarez def. Alfredo Angulo by 10th-round TKO   March 8, 2014
Floyd Mayweather def. Canelo Alvarez by majority decision   Sept. 14, 2013
Canelo Alvarez def. Austin Trout by unanimous decision   April 20, 2013
Canelo Alvarez def. Josesito Lopez by fifth-round TKO   Sept. 15, 2012
Canelo Alvarez def. Shane Mosley by unanimous decision   May 5, 2012
Canelo Alvarez def. Kermit Cintron by fifth-round TKO   Nov. 26, 2011
Canelo Alvarez def. Alfonso Gomez by sixth-round TKO   Sept. 17, 2011
Canelo Alvarez def. Ryan Rhodes by 12th-round TKO   June 18, 2011
Canelo Alvarez def. Matthew Hatton by unanimous decision   March 5, 2011
Canelo Alvarez def. Lovemore N'dou by unanimous decision   Dec. 4, 2010
Canelo Alvarez def. Carlos Baldomir by sixth-round KO   Sept. 18, 2010

He is one of the standouts of the last 10-15 years, but I do think he gets even more credit that he is due. Mosley was 40 and LONG past his best. A slightly younger version had already been dealt with by Pacman and Mayweather in comprehensive fashion. I'm one of those who thinks Lara beat him. A LOT of those names sound better than what they are: Kirkland, Angulo, Gomez, Cintron were all solid operators but not top notch.

His best wins IMO are GGG (debatable), Kovalev (up in weight but well past his peak), Cotto (past his prime), and Jacobs. Yes, I am picking holes and probably being harsh on Canelo, but he is also a diva twat

Fighting Fielding and Chavez Jr. is little better than Floyd beating Berto.

Samie · « **Reply #63562 on:** July 22, 2020, 03:21:15 pm »

Erislandy Lara beat him too.

You really need to KO the fucker now just to get a majority win.

7777 · « **Reply #63563 on:** July 22, 2020, 03:21:57 pm »

Quote from: Clayton Bigsby on July 22, 2020, 03:16:42 pm

Canelo is the dog's bollocks for me. So much fun to watch. Always brings heat. Love his style. He does do the A-side bollocks to the max but then in his biggest fight he had to come in at 152lbs due to the demands of a bigger star so I guess torch has passed in that respect.

I happen to think GGG is a bit overrated, but far far far far far away from being a hype job. Feasted on too many Latvians, wasting his prime years, shouting that he was avoided. Was unlucky in first fight against Canelo but then I thought both Jacobs on dyvechenko beat him so swings and roundabouts and all that

Tbf, some of it was also how long he stayed as an amateur with that insane record including an Olympic silver medal

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #63564 on:** July 22, 2020, 03:28:00 pm »

That is a good point that I didn't think of. Not everybody is a lomachenko just wanting to fight monsters right from the jump

dikwad · « **Reply #63565 on:** July 22, 2020, 06:43:36 pm »

GGG is hardly over rated, while not on a par with Hagler or Monzon he was a top middleweight champion who got mugged by the Vegas judges. I think Smith causes Canelo a few problems but eventually gets found out. Unless he's been hiding something he's not on the same level.

Samie · « **Reply #63566 on:** July 23, 2020, 05:57:06 pm »

Mike Tyson will return to the boxing ring for an exhibition fight against Roy Jones Jr.

https://bbc.in/3eWSbpj

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The bout is scheduled to take place on 12 September in Los Angeles.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #63567 on:** July 23, 2020, 06:19:46 pm »

It's going to be a car crash.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #63568 on:** July 23, 2020, 06:27:19 pm »

No fans in attendance amd neither fighter is to attempt a KO. What's the point?

Lusty · « **Reply #63569 on:** July 23, 2020, 09:18:56 pm »

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #63570 on:** July 23, 2020, 09:49:59 pm »

Who's getting the PPV?

Samie · « **Reply #63571 on:** July 23, 2020, 09:53:39 pm »

If you're paying for this fight you may as well pay for the Fordy v Amir Khan fight being scheduled in some car park in Bolton...Unsanctioned of course.

Lusty · « **Reply #63572 on:** July 24, 2020, 08:36:57 am »

Jones is a 2-1 outsider if anyone fancies some free money.

Alf · « **Reply #63573 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:35:25 am »

Leo Santa Cruz fighting Gervonta Davis in October. Belts at 130 & 135 on the line.

Talk that the Tyson-Jones fight will clash with Canelo’s next contest.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #63574 on:** July 24, 2020, 10:49:55 am »

Quote from: Samie on July 23, 2020, 05:57:06 pm

Mike Tyson will return to the boxing ring for an exhibition fight against Roy Jones Jr.

https://bbc.in/3eWSbpj

And they wonder why boxing isn’t what it once was. No interest in tuning in for that and it’s an absolute joke if it’s PPV.

Quote from: Alf on July 24, 2020, 10:35:25 am

Leo Santa Cruz fighting Gervonta Davis in October. Belts at 130 & 135 on the line.

Talk that the Tyson-Jones fight will clash with Canelo’s next contest.

Santa Cruz v Davis on the other hand is exactly the type of fight the sport should be promoting.

Lusty · « **Reply #63575 on:** July 24, 2020, 01:53:22 pm »

Quote from: duvva on July 24, 2020, 10:49:55 am

Santa Cruz v Davis on the other hand is exactly the type of fight the sport should be promoting.

That'll be a cracker, although I expect Davis to take control and win eventually.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #63576 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:13:54 pm »

Quote from: Lusty on July 24, 2020, 08:36:57 am

Jones is a 2-1 outsider if anyone fancies some free money.

Tyson could accidentally spark Roy I suppose but Jesus that is insane

Two old men, one of whom is active recently and is far more skillful than the other in general anyway. Tyson has the size advantage, and that's about it!

Samie · « **Reply #63577 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:22:55 pm »

If any of you fuckers actually buys this PPV instead of watching it on some dodgy stream I'll hunt each of you fuckers down.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #63578 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:33:02 pm »

RIP Nazim Richardson

Legendary trainer and a great man. Always said to my friends that if I was a boxer, I'd choose Nazim to be in my corner.

Lusty · « **Reply #63579 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:33:55 pm »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on July 24, 2020, 03:13:54 pm

Tyson could accidentally spark Roy I suppose but Jesus that is insane

Two old men, one of whom is active recently and is far more skillful than the other in general anyway. Tyson has the size advantage, and that's about it!

Tyson does not have a style that's going to improve with age, that Cus D'Amato style is incredibly demanding. And the whole point of it is to use that head movement to wind up and throw KO punches from unexpected angles, how you manage to do that while trying not to knock the other guy out I have no idea.

Jones has a style that is much more suited to this kind of format and is a lot easier to pull of at his age. Plus he's younger and more active as you say. And he's off his nut on PEDs

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #63580 on:** July 24, 2020, 03:39:02 pm »

Quote from: Lusty on July 24, 2020, 01:53:22 pm

That'll be a cracker, although I expect Davis to take control and win eventually.

Yeah, he wasn’t very impressive last time out and perhaps if he can’t find the KO punch he may get frustrated but as you suggest probably will be too big and strong for Santa Cruz as the fight goes on

rawcusk8 · « **Reply #63581 on:** July 24, 2020, 08:11:30 pm »

"Stab him in heart...Knock the grease off this dude. Then swim without gettin wet" -Nazim Richardson.
Brilliant quote, a sad loss for the sport.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #63582 on:** July 24, 2020, 09:02:06 pm »

Quote from: Samie on July 24, 2020, 03:22:55 pm

If any of you fuckers actually buys this PPV instead of watching it on some dodgy stream I'll hunt each of you fuckers down.

I'll buy if you get in the kebabs

1892tillforever · « **Reply #63583 on:** July 24, 2020, 09:02:37 pm »

Quote from: King.Keita on July 24, 2020, 03:33:02 pm

RIP Nazim Richardson

Legendary trainer and a great man. Always said to my friends that if I was a boxer, I'd choose Nazim to be in my corner.

Only 54 years of age, FFS. Great trainer RIP

Samie · « **Reply #63584 on:** July 24, 2020, 09:29:43 pm »

Quote from: 1892tillforever on July 24, 2020, 09:02:06 pm

I'll buy if you get in the kebabs

Mate, I'll be having a large salad box for this fight to show my utter contempt to to these fuckers who have been granted a boxing license again.

Samie · « **Reply #63585 on:** July 27, 2020, 03:55:10 pm »

Warren saying Dubois v Joyce maybe postponed again this time due to him not wanting a small crowd for this fight.

Rheinbacher · « **Reply #63586 on:** July 27, 2020, 05:15:23 pm »

Quote from: Samie on July 27, 2020, 03:55:10 pm

Warren saying Dubois v Joyce maybe postponed again this time due to him not wanting a small crowd for this fight.

It's one of the only few fights that he can put on that might actually attract a decent crowd so I'm not suprised.

I've been a good boy · « **Reply #63587 on:** July 27, 2020, 05:24:53 pm »

Can't believe there's still been no high-profile boxing fights when the UFC have had several events, all solid cards.

Alf · « **Reply #63588 on:** July 27, 2020, 07:34:29 pm »

Quote from: King.Keita on July 27, 2020, 05:24:53 pm

Can't believe there's still been no high-profile boxing fights when the UFC have had several events, all solid cards.

They need an audience to cover the purse.

I think Eddie Hearn has done really well to put on the Whyte-Povetkin and Taylor-Persoon rematch behind closed doors.

Samie · « **Reply #63589 on:** July 29, 2020, 11:50:56 pm »

Eddie's~~BBQ~~ garden ring is ready.

Samie · « **Reply #63590 on:** July 30, 2020, 12:19:59 am »

In other news, a cracker has been confirmed.

Lomachenko v Lopez is confirmed for October 3rd behind closed doors at the MGM Grand.

Lusty · « **Reply #63591 on:** July 30, 2020, 08:31:22 am »

Quote from: Samie on July 30, 2020, 12:19:59 am

In other news, a cracker has been confirmed.

Lomachenko v Lopez is confirmed for October 3rd behind closed doors at the MGM Grand.

Now you're talking. Lopez will give him a fight.

1892tillforever · « **Reply #63592 on:** July 30, 2020, 08:58:15 am »

Quote from: Samie on July 30, 2020, 12:19:59 am

In other news, a cracker has been confirmed.

Lomachenko v Lopez is confirmed for October 3rd behind closed doors at the MGM Grand.

Nice! Lopez is a proper talent; only 23 years of age. This is the kind of fight that could make him a star if he pulls off the upset.

Samie · « **Reply #63593 on:** July 30, 2020, 10:15:34 am »

Lopez is a naturally a bigger fighter. Loma has been coming up from Featherweight to now lightweight. I expect a Loma win but would not be surprised if Lopez manages to do it.

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #63594 on:** July 30, 2020, 11:19:17 am »

Naturally bigger but think lack of experience will be his downfall here

markmywords · « **Reply #63595 on:** July 31, 2020, 12:12:18 pm »

Paulie has apparantly been fired from showtime. Said to be for insensitive racial comments made months back

The comments themselves weren't bad IMO, but I think the doubling down on social media and refusal to say sorry has done him in

Unfortunate, although he is still on sky sports currently

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #63596 on:** July 31, 2020, 12:27:01 pm »

The comments were absolutely vanilla. What is there to even apologise for? This is embarassing

Edit. He has said other things apparently

Samie · « **Reply #63597 on:** July 31, 2020, 02:55:17 pm »

And Eddie Hearn is making a prat of himself again I see.

caught swearing live on Tele then found out he's live.

Lusty · « **Reply #63598 on:** July 31, 2020, 03:05:14 pm »

Quote from: Samie on July 31, 2020, 02:55:17 pm

And Eddie Hearn is making a prat of himself again I see. caught swearing live on Tele then found out he's live.

Haha his face is brilliant

Samie · « **Reply #63599 on:** July 31, 2020, 10:35:11 pm »

Errol Spence v Danny Garcia in talks for a November bout at Welterweight.

Edit been confirmed November 21st is the date.