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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1400 on: May 19, 2022, 10:17:45 am »
Konate is why we didn't panic buy in Jan 2021.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1401 on: May 19, 2022, 11:54:14 am »
He's just very....big. That's all you can say. He's absolutely massive. And speedy to boot. Fantastic signing.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1402 on: May 19, 2022, 01:47:18 pm »
Haha left out of the France squad. Even Varane is ahead of him ffs.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1403 on: May 19, 2022, 01:57:48 pm »
Konate is why we didn't panic buy in Jan 2021.

Without knowing for certain I'd say this is probably correct.

Couldn't get him in Jan 2021 and waited for him rather than buying someone further down our 'wanted' list for centre back in Jan 2021.

People were hugely critical of the centre back business in January 2021. Even Klopp was frustrated. Looking back with hindsight, the club probably got the decision right in the long term. We almost certainly weren't winning the league or the CL by buying Caleta-Car or someone of that ilk and dropping them into the team in January 2021.

Still managed to get CL in 2020/21 and we now have a 22 year old centre back who looks like he could turn into 1 of the best in the World if he progresses accordingly.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1404 on: May 19, 2022, 02:16:37 pm »
Haha left out of the France squad. Even Varane is ahead of him ffs.

Deschamps’ reasoning:

"Since he’s been at Liverpool, he’s mostly played in a 4-man defence. And there is competition [in the France team].”

“I brought William [Saliba] last time and he always plays in a back 3. It’s either one or the other, it’s very competitive, and that’s very good – it allows for the veterans to not get too comfortable.”

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1405 on: May 19, 2022, 02:18:46 pm »
Haha left out of the France squad. Even Varane is ahead of him ffs.
That's Deschamps for you.  He drove Laporte into changing his nationality by picking Zouma instead (a slight simplification of the sequence of events ;D).

I think Varane is also their vice-captain so he'll probably always be selected unless injured.  I'm disappointed for Konate but I'm never too bothered when our players get overlooked internationally - less opportunity for something bad to happen.

Deschamps’ reasoning:

"Since he’s been at Liverpool, he’s mostly played in a 4-man defence. And there is competition [in the France team].”

“I brought William [Saliba] last time and he always plays in a back 3. It’s either one or the other, it’s very competitive, and that’s very good – it allows for the veterans to not get too comfortable.”
Unless the "veteran" is Varane who's also played in a 4-man defence this season and, unlike Konate, has been dreadful.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1406 on: May 19, 2022, 02:28:07 pm »
That's Deschamps for you.  He drove Laporte into changing his nationality by picking Zouma instead (a slight simplification of the sequence of events ;D).

I think Varane is also their vice-captain so he'll probably always be selected unless injured.  I'm disappointed for Konate but I'm never too bothered when our players get overlooked internationally - less opportunity for something bad to happen.
Unless the "veteran" is Varane who's also played in a 4-man defence this season and, unlike Konate, has been dreadful.

Varane has been dreadful? How? He plays for the Might Man United? Surely that's just unpossible?

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1407 on: May 19, 2022, 02:42:25 pm »
I think Varane is also their vice-captain so he'll probably always be selected unless injured.

When it comes to experienced players, a lot of international managers will pick players based on what they have done for them rather than their club form. As long as they are playing then I think most managers of a national team go with what they know.

I think that changes with younger players and those on the periphery of the squad. I think a lot of national managers pick and choose based on club form in this scenario.

Varane probably fits in that 1st category and Deschamps will view his form this season as a function of United's woes and not necessarily directly linked to Varane's ability or his ability to perform at a high level in a different system with different players for France.

Feel sorry for Konate but it's always going to be hard to break into this French team.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1408 on: May 20, 2022, 04:32:37 pm »
Haha left out of the France squad. Even Varane is ahead of him ffs.

Doesnt surprise me, Deschamps is notorious for sticking with his "Favorites" despite others playing better

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1409 on: May 22, 2022, 06:47:39 pm »
Mistimed a few key challenges today - most notably the header for the Wolves goal and that mad tackle in Wolves half which saw them counterattack us with 2 our our places vs. 4 of theres. Need the experience of Matip to start against Madrid next to Van Dijk please

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1410 on: May 22, 2022, 06:49:53 pm »
Matip can't handle the pace of Vincious on Trent's side.  We will need Ibu and he will have Big Virj besides him anyway.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1411 on: May 22, 2022, 06:52:44 pm »
It was a weird game from him because defensively he was making errors all over the shop. But then it's probably the best game I've seen from him on the ball.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1412 on: May 22, 2022, 06:55:47 pm »
Madrid are no Wolves. Their only strategy is to induce mistakes and punish them 99/100 times. Konate has 2 or 3 mistakes in him that will instantly equate to goals conceded with the likes of Benzema pouncing.

This game has to be precise and clean from us. Matip is that man. Fully focused.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1413 on: May 22, 2022, 07:07:35 pm »
He looked tired today, at times he could barely get back in to defensive positions. What a first season for him though, he can look back on it with pride.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1414 on: May 22, 2022, 07:10:31 pm »
Would still pick him rather than Matip, assumping VVD is fit.
I think if we negate the out ball and pace of Vinicius, we really can prevent the number of times Benzema gets the ball in scoring areas.
With Matip, I think he will get roasted for pace, if Trent and Henderson do not help out against Vinicius.

100% would go with Konate for the final.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1415 on: May 22, 2022, 07:10:59 pm »
...besides, he is the lucky charm. We STILL have never lost a game with him on the pitch :P
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1416 on: May 22, 2022, 07:11:46 pm »
Matip can't handle the pace of Vincious on Trent's side.  We will need Ibu and he will have Big Virj besides him anyway.


Matip won't need to handle his pace to much if we play our high line properly and that tends to be he case when Matip and Van Dijk play. Without Thiago we need some one that can break the lines with passing from deep and Matip is much more likely to do that then Konate.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1417 on: May 22, 2022, 07:14:49 pm »


Matip won't need to handle his pace to much if we play our high line properly and that tends to be he case when Matip and Van Dijk play. Without Thiago we need some one that can break the lines with passing from deep and Matip is much more likely to do that then Konate.

Thats a good counter argument to make the case for Matip.
In favour of Konate, I think he is also better in the opposition box on corners. A real thread. Although of course, Matip looped one in recently :P

Interesting dilemna for Klopp.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1418 on: May 24, 2022, 01:41:21 am »
Thats a good counter argument to make the case for Matip.
In favour of Konate, I think he is also better in the opposition box on corners. A real thread. Although of course, Matip looped one in recently :P

Interesting dilemna for Klopp.
The answer is obvious. Drop that Virgil guy and have both Matip and Konate on the pitch.

Why do ppl not see the obvious?

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1419 on: May 24, 2022, 02:33:10 pm »
Madrid are no Wolves. Their only strategy is to induce mistakes and punish them 99/100 times. Konate has 2 or 3 mistakes in him that will instantly equate to goals conceded with the likes of Benzema pouncing.

This game has to be precise and clean from us. Matip is that man. Fully focused.

Please give us the list of games where Konate has shown 3-4 mistakes in? We'll assume Wolves game is the first and worst example...
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1421 on: May 25, 2022, 03:36:06 pm »
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1422 on: May 25, 2022, 03:52:52 pm »
Ibou turned 6 when we won in Istanbul! Surely its a sign!

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1423 on: May 25, 2022, 04:18:04 pm »

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1424 on: May 25, 2022, 04:18:10 pm »
Many happy returns. Can't believe he's only 23. Hopefully many years and trophies ahead of him here at Liverpool.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1425 on: May 28, 2022, 12:50:44 pm »
Hopefully he can take the cup back to La Roquette

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1426 on: May 28, 2022, 10:44:20 pm »
Had a couple of iffy moments, but overall, especially considering his age, I think he can hold his head high tonight.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1427 on: May 28, 2022, 10:45:12 pm »
Was magnificent a few times when one v one with Vinicous.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1428 on: May 28, 2022, 10:47:15 pm »
Was great out there on the biggest stage in his hometown. One reason to be positive tonight.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1429 on: May 28, 2022, 10:48:31 pm »
Brilliant defending. Great display from him He will keep getting better

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1430 on: May 28, 2022, 10:49:34 pm »
Awesome today, can’t believe I was worried about him starting over Matip

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1431 on: May 28, 2022, 10:49:42 pm »
Incredible performance. An absolute rock. His reading of the game is probably better than his physical qualities, which are immense.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1432 on: May 28, 2022, 10:53:20 pm »
Thought he had a very good game.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1433 on: May 28, 2022, 10:53:57 pm »
Rare silver lining tonight.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1434 on: May 28, 2022, 10:54:03 pm »
One of the few who can hold his head up high tonight. He was superb.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1435 on: May 28, 2022, 10:54:13 pm »
He was brilliant tonight, we have a real gem on our hands.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1436 on: May 28, 2022, 10:56:39 pm »
He was fantastic.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1437 on: May 28, 2022, 10:57:24 pm »
Outstanding tonight. Didn’t give Vini or Benzema anything.
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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1438 on: May 28, 2022, 10:57:34 pm »
MOTM - Hes one of the few players that can hold his head high. Immense today.

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Re: The Indomitable Ibou
« Reply #1439 on: May 28, 2022, 10:59:01 pm »
Totally magnificent.  Nothing to add.
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