Author Topic: Chelsea - schooled by Liverpool's kids (Read 183726 times)

farawayred · « **Reply #2720 on:** March 30, 2024, 09:34:01 pm »

Quote from: Oldmanmick on March 30, 2024, 09:29:34 pm

All the data I've looked at (the league table) says that Chelsea are shite.

Turn the table upside down, and they should be top four had Ev and Forest not docked points.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #2721 on:** March 30, 2024, 10:50:27 pm »

They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt

There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James. Because the guy is injured more than Thiago.
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players.

. What a way to run a club

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #2722 on:** March 30, 2024, 10:53:40 pm »

Quote from: TepidT2O on March 30, 2024, 10:50:27 pm

They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt

There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James. Because the guy is injured more than Thiago.
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players. . What a way to run a club

xG does not factor in the quality of the players taking the shot or facing it.

Thst's the difference between them and United. United are shit in their box but efficient in the opposition's box while Chelsea are shit in both boxes. Only Palmer has that quality that's keeping them in midtable.

Also, anyone club that signs James is off their head because of his wages and injury record. You are right.

Basically, they've been reset to what they used to be. They are just hoping that their big money flops will come good.

Tokyoite · « **Reply #2723 on:** March 31, 2024, 02:24:40 am »

Quote from: TepidT2O on March 30, 2024, 10:50:27 pm

They’re 4th on XG for vs XG against I think.

But it’s a very very crude measure to use.

Anyway, they’re planning to seek, both James and Gallagher in the summer to avoid breaching PSR.

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/sport/football/article/chelsea-plan-sell-reece-james-conor-gallagher-summer-62pflrhlt

There’s is no single way that anyone is paying out big money for James. Because the guy is injured more than Thiago.
And Gallagher is one year from going on a free.

And on paper they are their two best players. . What a way to run a club

With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there

SamLad · « **Reply #2724 on:** March 31, 2024, 12:20:53 pm »

Quote from: Tokyoite on March 31, 2024, 02:24:40 am

With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there

Gallagher to MU is almost certain to happen imo.

Persephone · « **Reply #2725 on:** April 2, 2024, 07:40:12 am »

Quote from: Tokyoite on March 31, 2024, 02:24:40 am

With reports saying that Sir Rat wants to go more British at United, I wouldn't be surprised to see them both over there

Imagine what Southgate could do with James, Gallagher, Mount and Rashy and the new Zidane/Mathaus. They'll run away with the league. Be afraid everyone, be very afraid.

SamLad · « **Reply #2726 on:** April 2, 2024, 01:09:02 pm »

Quote from: Persephone on April 2, 2024, 07:40:12 am

Imagine what Southgate could do with James, Gallagher, Mount and Rashy and the new Zidane/Mathaus. They'll run away with the league. Be afraid ~~everyone~~ MU supporters, be very afraid.

Kopenhagen · « **Reply #2727 on:** April 5, 2024, 04:47:25 pm »

Every time I see a highlight of Caicedo, he's making a mistake, lol. I can't believe they paid £115m for him.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #2728 on:** April 13, 2024, 10:27:46 am »

So…. Their accounts show that they made PSR. By…… selling their hotel (which is part of one of their stands) to….er.. themselves

Utterly corrupt.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #2729 on:** April 13, 2024, 11:53:07 am »

Here you go

Otherwise they’d have missed PSR by a huuuuuge margin

Jshooters · « **Reply #2730 on:** April 13, 2024, 12:00:33 pm »

Surely that’s grounds for a charge…there’s no way the regulations haven’t catered for this scenario

whtwht · « **Reply #2731 on:** April 13, 2024, 12:08:23 pm »

Cheats should NEVER prosper.

Red-Soldier · « **Reply #2732 on:** April 13, 2024, 12:37:17 pm »

Quote from: whtwht on April 13, 2024, 12:08:23 pm

Cheats should NEVER prosper.

They do in football.

thaddeus · « **Reply #2733 on:** April 13, 2024, 01:33:56 pm »

Quote from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/68805247

Players costing £592m were sold for £203m, although accounting rules mean that generated a profit of £63m.

Chris~ · « **Reply #2734 on:** April 13, 2024, 01:35:44 pm »

Quote from: Jshooters on April 13, 2024, 12:00:33 pm

Surely that’s grounds for a charge…there’s no way the regulations haven’t catered for this scenario

Clubs didn't vote on it

https://twitter.com/martynziegler/status/1779096710876151814?t=RGhg8pxnJ9V9UgItCvxQUw&s=19

SamLad · « **Reply #2735 on:** April 13, 2024, 01:42:01 pm »

Quote from: whtwht on April 13, 2024, 12:08:23 pm

Cheats should NEVER prosper.

and people should never be nasty to other people. welcome to the world, mate.

jacobs chains · « **Reply #2736 on:** April 13, 2024, 02:50:45 pm »

The whole deal to sell Chelsea once UK sanctions kicked in has been as corrupt as fuck. From the terms of the sale, to the destination of the money raised by the sale, to the terms of ownership, to the funding of the ownership, and now the avoidance of PSR sanctions by some of history's most creative of accounting.

Then again, what did we expect once Johnson's Tory government got involved?

I've been banging this drum for ages, hoping that one of the, still world leading, investigative journalists we have in this country will get involved. The wait continues.

clinical · « **Reply #2737 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:01:17 am »

Chelsea got out of FFP as they sold their hotel to themselves.

Appears they have £164m worth of assets left to sell to themselves. This is a farce. The other clubs need to vote to stop this asap.

https://twitter.com/slbsn/status/1779429483004436892?t=JJ0YU7dDD4NKBP7wmRD67Q&s=19

thejbs · « **Reply #2738 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:13:33 am »

That loophole is a huge advantage to London clubs where real estate is bonkers, and often quite shady with so many loopholes already.

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #2739 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:24:06 am »

Quote from: TepidT2O on April 13, 2024, 11:53:07 am

Here you go

Otherwise they’d have missed PSR by a huuuuuge margin

It's not sustainable. They made their biggest operating loss in a while.

clinical · « **Reply #2740 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:37:20 am »

Quote from: MonsLibpool on April 14, 2024, 10:24:06 am

It's not sustainable. They made their biggest operating loss in a while.

They will eventually run out of assets to sell but it will have given them £300m extra moving room. Championship and Uefa banned this loophole but it's not banned in premier league. I suspect and hope there are strong calls to ban it with immediate affect. I suspect Chelsea have already sold their £164m assets to themselves hence why they are not worried about failing FFP this year.

MonsLibpool · « **Reply #2741 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:47:17 am »

Quote from: clinical on April 14, 2024, 10:37:20 am

They will eventually run out of assets to sell but it will have given them £300m extra moving room. Championship and Uefa banned this loophole but it's not banned in premier league. I suspect and hope there are strong calls to ban it with immediate affect. I suspect Chelsea have already sold their £164m assets to themselves hence why they are not worried about failing FFP this year.

The league has been proactive in that respect. Chelsea look desperate to me so I find what they're doing very funny. It's not like the league would have docked them many points for it anyway.

If they qualify for a UEFA competition then they have to comply with tighter rules and they should already be building towards that. Their strategy is a huge failure.

clinical · « **Reply #2742 on:** April 14, 2024, 10:55:45 am »

Quote from: MonsLibpool on April 14, 2024, 10:47:17 am

The league has been proactive in that respect. Chelsea look desperate to me so I find what they're doing very funny. It's not like the league would have docked them many points for it anyway.

If they qualify for a UEFA competition then they have to comply with tighter rules and they should already be building towards that. Their strategy is a huge failure.

I imagine a few clubs will be wanted to change the rules quickly

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #2743 on:** April 14, 2024, 11:03:12 am »

I hope Everton twat them 5-0 on Monday