Topic: Liverpool 2 West Brom 2

[Crosby Nick]

Lallana should have scored yesterday. Was his first touch to heavy?

I thought so. He still had time to get a shot away and should have scored but I thought his first touch was a bit heavy, certainly by his standards.

[lindylou100]

I'm not worried about the medias reaction to Klopp & players thanking the fans, they're a bit thick you see. All Klopp has to do is keeping doing it every home game win, lose or draw and eventually the idiots will catch on. What I find amazing is that he identified the disconnect between the fans and the team, called us out on it 3 weeks ago and actively re-energized it yesterday all whilst encouraging the team to fight to the bitter end in a way I haven't seen since Rafas time. Remarkable.

Honestly I'm delighted that he cares about the fans enough to reach out and make us feel part of the team again.

[The G in Gerrard]

I thought so. He still had time to get a shot away and should have scored but I thought his first touch was a bit heavy, certainly by his standards.

Was alot closer to the keeper than he'd like imo. Should have scored though.

[The G in Gerrard]

Watching the Monday night footy show on bein sports and good to hear dion dublin and don Hutchinson understanding the team thank you to the crowd at the end of the game. Refreshing to see logical analysis.

Match of the day 2 saw no problem with it either.

[TrueNorthRED]

Unfortunately some of our fans/supporters are following the Sky mantra.

And therein lies the brilliance of Klopp's opening day remarks concerning "belief". He point blank told everyone then what he expects and what we, as supporters, need to do. Those who bitch/moan/criticize and want to debate about the appropriateness of yesterdays events are simply non-believers. There is no room on the bus for non-believers.

[John C]

Having the benefit of being right behind it, I thought Lallana opened his body to early giving the keeper a clue where he was putting it so he just stuck a leg out.
One of our clearest chances in recent weeks.

[fewmin' bedwetter]

Was alot closer to the keeper than he'd like imo. Should have scored though.

Such a shame - I'd thought he had an excellent game personally. The header to set up Henderson was really good.
That would have topped it off - ah well. Save his big finishes for some big games later in the season hopefully.

[Chakan]

Was alot closer to the keeper than he'd like imo. Should have scored though.

Definitely should have scored, just seemed to kick it straight at the keeper instead of putting it past or over him.

[Phil M]

Hendo's goal was a thing of beauty. Last thing I would think on receiving the ball to feet 35 yards out is "I think I'll just dink this up to big Adam Lallana who'll surely easily outjump the nearest West Brom brutish defender and knock it down on a plate for Hendo to finish first time".

[moloch]

No, his finishing was just bad. Very bad.

The thing is that finishing, just as shooting in general seems to be totally overlooked in todays education of a footballer.

Yeah it's been a pattern for us (since Suarez really) that our players can't finish from those situations.. Firmino for example has had a few golden chances already.

[spider-neil]

No, his first touch was perfect, his second touch wasn't heavy enough.

He tried to put it between the keepers legs and the keeper simply wasn't fooled.

[steveeastend]

Yeah it's been a pattern for us (since Suarez really) that our players can't finish from those situations.. Firmino for example has had a few golden chances already.

As talented Firminho is, similar to Coutinho who is even more talented..they both are nowhere near the likes Ronaldiho f.e.

[GregCharrua]

Firmino needs to play as a striker. He looks so casual when he is in the middle 2/3. Gives up the ball so easily, underhits passes, etc. At least in his last few games, anyway.

[Another Red]

No, his first touch was perfect, his second touch wasn't heavy enough.

Now for a dose of truth. Yes, his first touch was poor because he allowed the ball to run too far ahead from him. That gave the keeper time to come off his line close down the angle. Go watch the replay.

I assume we're talking about the chance in the second half...

[Beninger]

It's pretty easy to avoid the negative shit if you want to...

Oh, and Klopp is boss...

[Redcap]

Can I ask.. why do people call Firmino, 'Firminho', including sometimes his own manager and teammates?

[rickardinho1]

In case anyone missed it:

Spurs lost to a relegation contender
United lost to a relegation contender
Chelsea lost and are out of the top 4 race
We gained a point on all 3 of our biggest rivals.

[Digger2God]

Can I ask.. why do people call Firmino, 'Firminho', including sometimes his own manager and teammates?

Ask Coutinho 

[Ken-Obi]

As talented Firminho is, similar to Coutinho who is even more talented..they both are nowhere near the likes Ronaldiho f.e.

What are their Potential Ability ratings over 200?

[farawayred]

Can I ask.. why do people call Firmino, 'Firminho', including sometimes his own manager and teammates?

Well, he's got to have something Brazilian, so the name is a start.

[Solomon Grundy]

What are their Potential Ability ratings over 200?

Can't get higher than 200. Them's the rules on Footy manager mate.

[Rush 82]

Looking around the internet and other forums including other teams tells me more about the state of English football than Klopp.

What he did was a gesture of thanks to the fans, anyone with more than one brain cell can tell that from his past behaviour, recent comments on the fans and whatnot.

It's being interpreted instead as a celebration of a draw against a "weak" side and thus small time and thankful "we scrapped that" celebration and even SSN mocked us for it.


The fact is, the man wants Anfield to be loud, for that the fans need to get behind the team, they did that yesterday and it was great to hear and see... the fact he is getting mocked for it because "big clubs don't behave this way" is embarrassing, the sense of entitlement some of our fans and United fans and other "big club" fans have is embarrassing!

I thank him for thanking US, as paying fans for HELPING the players charge till the end, should we win games like this, YES! Absolutely, however if you think a Pulis team is going to be an easy game you don't know the man and you do not know that NO GAME in the Premier League is a easy win.


Fucks sake, I don't even know who I am aiming this post at, general rant I guess but some right weapons about.

Ha ha ha

I know the feeling

They're all fucking bellends

[Rush 82]

Has he not heard? We're not English...

[Caffeine]

I'm over the moon Klopp done that at the end.

Fuck everyone else.

Exactly this! I honestly couldn't care less what other fans think as long as the matchgoers are on board.

It's the same nobheads who thought we were "already celebrating the title" when the team bus was greeted at Anfield in 13/14.

[fowlermagic]

More of a sidenote to the game but how bad was that challenge on Lovren as in the highlights all I saw was two lads going for a ball that neither should have gone for in the manner they did, ie in the back of your mind you knew there be a thump once you got there via a full lunge. The West Brom lad definitely prepared himself for it as like in the old days it was more of win the ball but make sure you take the man with it. A red card in todays soft game where you breath on the back of someones neck they go down holding something

[redprodigal]

In case anyone missed it:

Spurs lost to a relegation contender
United lost to a relegation contender
Chelsea lost and are out of the top 4 race
We gained a point on all 3 of our biggest rivals.

Nobody missed it. Everybody knows that we should have gained three points on all 3 of our biggest rivals. Big chance gone with the results this last week.

[Mohsosa]

More of a sidenote to the game but how bad was that challenge on Lovren as in the highlights all I saw was two lads going for a ball that neither should have gone for in the manner they did, ie in the back of your mind you knew there be a thump once you got there via a full lunge. The West Brom lad definitely prepared himself for it as like in the old days it was more of win the ball but make sure you take the man with it. A red card in todays soft game where you breath on the back of someones neck they go down holding something

It was downright disgusting. You could hear Lovren screaming in agony. What's worse is it's not even being talked about.

[jonnyr]

It is up to us to FORCIBLY extend the manager's message on social media around friend and family. Hearing that fans getting off early getting barracked IS THE RIGHT THING. Fans that sit and moan in stands need to be called out week after week or until they give up their tickets for young bloods.


I really fuming about this. It's classic mentalists taking over the asylum.

Seriously if you have twitter or are that way inclined message the likes of Durham on talkshiiiite as well as Evans and make it CLEAR: Our manager is revitalising the atmosphere as well as the football. That crowd, that buzz saved us a point that we all would have thought lost.
They very same people that comment on how pony atmospheres are everywhere to turn around and pour scorn is beyond short sighted...if anything it like a miserable teenager where nothing is acceptable and everything is embarrassing.

This.

It's a bit sad this is what it has come to in this day and age [the social media impact, herd mentality, etc] but we need to kind of be more bullish and be louder, even if it's not in our nature naturally.

[jonnyr]

It was downright disgusting. You could hear Lovren screaming in agony. What's worse is it's not even being talked about.

Studs up, over the ball, knee locked, that was a dirty slide 100%. I know it happens in sport sometimes "unintentionally", in the heat of the moment, but that could have ended so much worse for Lovren, was tough to watch. Professionals should be held to a higher standard.

[Mohsosa]

Studs up, over the ball, knee locked, that was a dirty slide 100%. I know it happens in sport sometimes "unintentionally", in the heat of the moment, but that could have ended so much worse for Lovren, was tough to watch. Professionals should be held to a higher standard.

Gardner even takes a look at Lovren and continues to dive in. He knew exactly what he was doing, the scumbag.

[Andy82lfc]

Studs up, over the ball, knee locked, that was a dirty slide 100%. I know it happens in sport sometimes "unintentionally", in the heat of the moment, but that could have ended so much worse for Lovren, was tough to watch. Professionals should be held to a higher standard.

Honestly don't understand how every pundit i have seen has backed it as an ok tackle and nothing wrong with it at all. I must be missing something when it comes to what is ok and what is not.

If you take the ball but your foot follows through and hits the players leg at shin height, I mean, how the fuck is that ok?

Do people remember the Gerrard tackle on Boateng v aston villa? He takes the ball but then follows through, all be it a bit more higher on the leg but still, similar in execution.

I was instantly reminded of that tackle when i saw that. An obvious attempt to take the ball, crunch the player, while cleverly disguising it. Not comparing the two like for like as Gerrards was much harsher in my view, but still both red cards. Just don't get how not one person has said it was not ok and not even a fucking foul??? Crazy.

[Mohsosa]

From 35 seconds... watch his eyes

http://www.trollfootball.me/display.php?id=71627

[Pistolero]

Gardner's always been a sly dirty fucker...will be watching him from now on, and praying he's on the receiving end of a similar shithouse challenge...c*nt

[Kelvinlfc]

Another frustrating game in terms of finishing, £32.5m isn't looking well spent except for a few glimpses! His basic finishing is piss poor for us but he seems to be able to bang in screamers

[exiledintheUSA]

From 35 seconds... watch his eyes

http://www.trollfootball.me/display.php?id=71627

100% knows what he's doing.

[red mongoose]

100% knows what he's doing.

Yep, classic follow-through leg-breaker. Hit the ball first so you don't get in trouble, and it worked a charm. You'd think a man would have more respect for a fellow professional, but Craig F. Gardner has all the humanity of a yard dog eating its own puke.

[Historical Fool]

Yep, classic follow-through leg-breaker. Hit the ball first so you don't get in trouble, and it worked a charm. You'd think a man would have more respect for a fellow professional, but Craig F. Gardner has all the humanity of a yard dog eating its own puke.

Withdrawing five hundred pounds from a cash point to help a disabled child whose family couldn't afford a harness for, over a chance encounter at lunch? It's not a great tackle, but in my book he's pretty much 'humane'.

[KillieRed]

I`ve rewatched their actual second goal, looks like a deliberate ploy to (at best) block-off Lovren with one player (Brunt?) allowing Ollson a free run at the ball. Refs should be taking a good look at this kind of thing in video preparation. It`s like a basketball or American football pick-play and illegal.

Also, the tactic of standing a man right in front of the goalkeeper at corners is very low (I know we have done it in the past), and there should be a foul given every time that man contacts the keeper. On the same second goal I saw Fletcher making a big deal about not impeding the keeper, but their gameplan on that set play was obviously elsewhere. Pulis is of course a master of this sort of tactic, it is effective, but the lowest form of football. At least we only have to watch WBA twice a season, pity their poor fans who can look forward to seeing no football all season, just the prayer of a goal from a set-piece ever now and then.

[Groundskeeper Willie]

I`ve rewatched their actual second goal, looks like a deliberate ploy to (at best) block-off Lovren with one player (Brunt?) allowing Ollson a free run at the ball. Refs should be taking a good look at this kind of thing in video preparation. It`s like a basketball or American football pick-play and illegal.

Also, the tactic of standing a man right in front of the goalkeeper at corners is very low (I know we have done it in the past), and there should be a foul given every time that man contacts the keeper. On the same second goal I saw Fletcher making a big deal about not impeding the keeper, but their gameplan on that set play was obviously elsewhere. Pulis is of course a master of this sort of tactic, it is effective, but the lowest form of football. At least we only have to watch WBA twice a season, pity their poor fans who can look forward to seeing no football all season, just the prayer of a goal from a set-piece ever now and then.

There are ways for the keeper to get rid of his marker. I used to start at the far post, then just before the corner came in, I moved away towards the middle or front post, depending on the corner. Don't know if the rules are the same in England, but here in Sweden, the marker couldn't move to block the keeper so he was taken out of the play.

[sideshowme]

Withdrawing five hundred pounds from a cash point to help a disabled child whose family couldn't afford a harness for, over a chance encounter at lunch? It's not a great tackle, but in my book he's pretty much 'humane'.

the hyperbole over the tackle is ridiculous.