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Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #200 on:** October 23, 2007, 10:45:03 am »

http://www.sherdog.com/news/news.asp?n_id=9631

Interesting article here. That goes on to say if Matt Hughes beats Serra he could then face Anderson Silva in what would probably be his last fight.

jason42 · « **Reply #201 on:** October 30, 2007, 11:24:27 am »

Great fight last night between Dan Barrera and Rob Saunders.

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Rob won 2 round majority decision but everyone including Dana (except for the judges) thought it was 1 round each and they were all set for sudden victory. Dana gave both fighters the $5K win bonus for a great fight

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Was somewhat disappointed with the result as I thought the loser looked like one of the favourites

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He had been throwing his weight around in practice and then Hughes took him to school and owned his ass in practice

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MrEcho · « **Reply #202 on:** October 30, 2007, 12:48:34 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on October 30, 2007, 11:24:27 am

Great fight last night between Dan Barrera and Rob Saunders.
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Rob won 2 round majority decision but everyone including Dana (except for the judges) thought it was 1 round each and they were all set for sudden victory. Dana gave both fighters the $5K win bonus for a great fight
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Was somewhat disappointed with the result as I thought the loser looked like one of the favourites
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He had been throwing his weight around in practice and then Hughes took him to school and owned his ass in practice
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Yeah good fight. I think he lost though coz he wasn't used to seeing his own blood. Didn't seem to like it and changed the fight a bit. But did you see the state of his face the day after.

Roberts LFC · « **Reply #203 on:** November 6, 2007, 12:29:27 am »

No wonder Team Hughes are doing so bad, I hate Hughes as much as hes a great fighter, out of the octagon hes a right dick, I thought his treatment of inexperienced guys on his team such as Barrera and Georgieff as pathetic, he did the same in Season 2 of TUF with Von Flue and Murphy.
I thought Team Hughes would steamroll Team Serra, so its great Team Serra are getting the better of things.
Cant see Tommy Speer(Team Hughes) beating Jon Koppenhaver next week either so I see it being mostly Team Serra in the last eight.

Athers · « **Reply #204 on:** November 6, 2007, 01:18:38 am »

I stopped watching TUF when they spent half an episode showing that a horse had slipped on their drive.

realtarragona · « **Reply #205 on:** November 6, 2007, 08:57:19 am »

Quote from: Roberts LFC on November 6, 2007, 12:29:27 am

No wonder Team Hughes are doing so bad, I hate Hughes as much as hes a great fighter, out of the octagon hes a right dick, I thought his treatment of inexperienced guys on his team such as Barrera and Georgieff as pathetic, he did the same in Season 2 of TUF with Von Flue and Murphy.
I thought Team Hughes would steamroll Team Serra, so its great Team Serra are getting the better of things.
Cant see Tommy Speer(Team Hughes) beating Jon Koppenhaver next week either so I see it being mostly Team Serra in the last eight.

Hughes will have something to gloat about though because in the end it's quite likely Mac Danzig is going to win it. He's good enough to have been in the UFC for a while already.

jason42 · « **Reply #206 on:** November 6, 2007, 11:08:44 am »

Quote from: realtarragona on November 6, 2007, 08:57:19 am

Hughes will have something to gloat about though because in the end it's quite likely Mac Danzig is going to win it. He's good enough to have been in the UFC for a while already.

yep

7777 · « **Reply #207 on:** November 6, 2007, 04:02:14 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on November 6, 2007, 11:08:44 am

yep

I have missed Mac's fight I think, was he one of the first? I was looking forward to seeing him fight, he looks very calm and collected

jason42 · « **Reply #208 on:** November 6, 2007, 04:41:56 pm »

Quote from: 7777 on November 6, 2007, 04:02:14 pm

I have missed Mac's fight I think, was he one of the first? I was looking forward to seeing him fight, he looks very calm and collected

Yes. I think he could win

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #209 on:** November 6, 2007, 07:30:52 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on October 30, 2007, 11:24:27 am

Great fight last night between Dan Barrera and Rob Saunders.
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Rob won 2 round majority decision but everyone including Dana (except for the judges) thought it was 1 round each and they were all set for sudden victory. Dana gave both fighters the $5K win bonus for a great fight
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Was somewhat disappointed with the result as I thought the loser looked like one of the favourites
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He had been throwing his weight around in practice and then Hughes took him to school and owned his ass in practice
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Thinking about that fight, the judges must have score the second round a 10-8 round, which it was in fairness. Saunders slapped him sideways.

Roberts LFC · « **Reply #210 on:** November 6, 2007, 10:38:30 pm »

Yes but Hughes will probably have Danzig as the only fighter who will win it and lets face it Danzig is the dead cert as he is easily the most experienced guy there.
I hope someone upsets Danzig in there as I think he is a prick as well, look at his treatment of Blake Bowman.
Im rooting for Rude Boy Mandaloniz(as I like his fighting style just going for it), Saunders or Satiropoulos to win it.
I think the Aussie George Satiropoulos has the best chance of beating Danzig to the TUF6 crown this season although I agree with you guys it sadly looks like Danzig will win it.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #211 on:** November 6, 2007, 11:35:09 pm »

to be honest, I've never seen Danzig in any other fights apart from his fight on TUF. And lets face it, he fought a guy who isn't really a fighter. I've been most impressed by Saunders but fuck knows how he'd do against Danzig or George though.

What are ye're thoughts on the thoughts on the Hughes Serra fight. I'd love Serra to win but i just don't see it happening.

I see UFC 80 is on in Geordieland. Penn is fighting Stevenson for the LW title. Didn't know they had stripped Sherk, thought he was still waiting results or some shit.

realtarragona · « **Reply #212 on:** November 6, 2007, 11:50:20 pm »

Hughes will win quite comfortably against Serra.

And yep UFC 80 is confirmed will 100% be going to that. Missed 75 but went to 70 at the M.E.N and it was class. The atmosphere is brilliant when you're there. Yous should definitely go if you have the chance.

Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #213 on:** November 13, 2007, 01:02:05 am »

think hughes will to,and thats why serra is doin all the mocking.mouthing off.
i wish now lookin back on this program that hughes had got war machine ,as serra just thought he was a nut and didnt seem to want to know.
i think ben saunders and tommy spears have a good chance as well as danzig.im not too sure about George Sotiropoulos.i think ben would take him standing and tommy just pound the fuck out of him on the floor.tommy can take a dig and stay focused .
tommy and danzig for me in the final if they dont meet before.

jason42 · « **Reply #214 on:** November 13, 2007, 10:55:22 am »

Great fight last night with Tommy and War Machine (WTF?)

With some proper training Tommy could do very well.

In the taster for next week it shows Serra trying to put Danzig against Tommy to knock out another of Hughes fighters. Can't see them getting away with that even though they do have control.

[streety] · « **Reply #215 on:** November 13, 2007, 12:08:58 pm »

Yeah it was a great fight. Tommy was much stronger and overpowered WM. He didn't do much in the 2nd round, just controlled him and led on top.
Going to miss the Evans/Bisping fight at the weekend. Should be an interesting fight...

realtarragona · « **Reply #216 on:** November 15, 2007, 01:38:31 pm »

Well, I hope I'm wrong but I can't see how exactly Bisping is going to win. Rashad is stronger, a better wrestler and has got better at striking recently. Bisping is quite good at submissions and GNP himself but can't see him beating Rashad that way. Plus he's struggled at preventing take downs bigtime so far. And I've been less than impressed with his striking. Only have to look at his last fight for the reason why.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #217 on:** November 15, 2007, 03:56:02 pm »

Quote from: jason23 on November 13, 2007, 10:55:22 am

Great fight last night with Tommy and War Machine (WTF?)

With some proper training Tommy could do very well.

In the taster for next week it shows Serra trying to put Danzig against Tommy to knock out another of Hughes fighters. Can't see them getting away with that even though they do have control.

Doesn't have it mentally though. He was a fucking wreck going into that fight. Bought of them fought hard though.

Don't understand the way Serra keeps taking the piss out of Hughes, if he ends up getting embarrassed he'll look a tit. Would write him off completely though.

7777 · « **Reply #218 on:** November 16, 2007, 08:11:59 am »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on November 15, 2007, 03:56:02 pm

Doesn't have it mentally though. He was a fucking wreck going into that fight. Bought of them fought hard though.

Don't understand the way Serra keeps taking the piss out of Hughes, if he ends up getting embarrassed he'll look a tit. Would write him off completely though.

Would or wouldn't?

I can't stand Serra. Hope Hughes does embarrass him. He is fucking annoying especially when his fighter is fighting and all you can hear is him in the background. J-Rock got it right about him! Shut the fuck up!

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #219 on:** November 16, 2007, 03:55:29 pm »

Wouldn't rule him out. He's a decent bloke by the looks of it. He's only doing what a trainer should and there's no doubt that his instructions have helped out his fighters. It was the same when he was on the show himself.

Rerad his blog and he responded to what j-Rock said. Caught him a beaut. Said J-Rock makes Carlton from Fresh Prince of Bel-Air sound like DMX.

Hughes on the other hand has come across as a right arrogant prick on the show. You should see the way he acts with the Serra fighters that he is cornering.

kitster · « **Reply #220 on:** November 17, 2007, 09:51:48 pm »

What time does 78 start tonight?

realtarragona · « **Reply #221 on:** November 17, 2007, 10:22:45 pm »

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #222 on:** November 18, 2007, 12:47:59 am »

So, anyone staying up for it. It's on MMA tv on TVU player if anyones looking for a stream.

kitster · « **Reply #223 on:** November 18, 2007, 02:18:54 am »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on November 18, 2007, 12:47:59 am

So, anyone staying up for it. It's on MMA tv on TVU player if anyones looking for a stream.

ye- am in for the duration - just showing some vintage stuff at the mo.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #224 on:** November 18, 2007, 02:34:58 am »

Did ya see the fight between the guy with the mustache and the huge Korean dude. Crazy fucking fight, they were just pucking the head off each other for the first five minutes.

The guy with the tache is a bit of a legend, can't think of his name though.

kitster · « **Reply #225 on:** November 18, 2007, 02:42:26 am »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on November 18, 2007, 02:34:58 am

Did ya see the fight between the guy with the mustache and the huge Korean dude. Crazy fucking fight, they were just pucking the head off each other for the first five minutes.

The guy with the tache is a bit of a legend, can't think of his name though.

Don Frye i think it was

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #226 on:** November 18, 2007, 03:04:40 am »

Quote from: kitster on November 18, 2007, 02:42:26 am

Don Frye i think it was

Ya, that's the guy!

kitster · « **Reply #227 on:** November 18, 2007, 04:53:44 am »

Fairly standard fayre so far - Alexander - Silva should be a peach tho.

kitster · « **Reply #228 on:** November 18, 2007, 04:57:25 am »

Wasnt Expecting that!

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #229 on:** November 18, 2007, 05:44:06 am »

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Houston showed what many expected. He has no ground game. ate some great shots though. Thiago was very impressive.

What a whiny bitch Bisping is. He thought he won? Okay it was a close fight but Rashad got the takedowns and landed the better shots on the feet. Evans even tired early and if Bisping really pushed it and gone all out he might have won. Neither will ever get near the belt though.

Maybe it was just the stream but it was like a library in that arena tonight.

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realtarragona · « **Reply #230 on:** November 18, 2007, 05:45:40 am »

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Well he's going to be biased and it was very close to be fair. Thought Rashad did just about win because of the takedowns but he didn't do much once he took Bisping down. Bit too much lay and pray for my liking. Went pretty much as I expected though. Bisping is good at most aspects of MMA but great at none.

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Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #231 on:** November 18, 2007, 06:06:49 am »

Quote from: realtarragona on November 18, 2007, 05:45:40 am

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Well he's going to be biased and it was very close to be fair. Thought Rashad did just about win because of the takedowns but he didn't do much once he took Bisping down. Bit too much lay and pray for my liking. Went pretty much as I expected though. Bisping is good at most aspects of MMA but great at none.
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Wouldn't call it lay and pray. Bisping was very good on his back I'll give ya that. Rashad is such a small LHW weight that i don't see him ever being able to take the bigger guys down and keep them there.

Bisping's been acting like a little child since the fans got on his back over the controversial win over Hammill. It wasn't his fault he got the decision but all he had to do was be humble. He just comes across as a complete prick. And I'll tell him that to his face if i ever meet him.

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Anyway I'm fucked. Probably the worst event I've stayed up for.

realtarragona · « **Reply #232 on:** November 18, 2007, 06:16:14 am »

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Thought could have been much more active than he was at times. That's why it was so close I think because he got the takedowns but didn't do much else. Anyway you're right it wasn't the best event I've seen by a long shot.

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Gus 1855 · « **Reply #233 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:00:25 am »

I think neither fighter really hurt the other, a lot of huff and puff without any end product....a little like Villa away last season!

If the fight went on I would have fancied Bisping, but it didn't. A draw would have been the right result I feel.

Bob Loblaw · « **Reply #234 on:** November 19, 2007, 12:38:46 am »

Looks like Dan Henderson is dropping down to MW to fight Anderson Silva. Should be a great fight.

http://www.mmafighting.com/news/2007/silva_vs_henderson_on_march_1_2008.html

jason42 · « **Reply #235 on:** November 19, 2007, 11:39:21 am »

Wasn't the best event I have seen. I kept hoping that Choyan and Bisping would pull off some crazy kick ass move and win the fight. Neither Evans or Bisping would cope with Rampage

Sir Capon of Debaser · « **Reply #236 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:22:45 pm »

anyone seen the new episode of ultimate hughes v serra?

Joe Rogans Chin · « **Reply #237 on:** November 19, 2007, 04:58:21 pm »

Quote from: Bob Loblaw on November 19, 2007, 12:38:46 am

Looks like Dan Henderson is dropping down to MW to fight Anderson Silva. Should be a great fight.

http://www.mmafighting.com/news/2007/silva_vs_henderson_on_march_1_2008.html

Not sure I'm quite liking the route the UFC is now taking, lining up star fights after star fighters, looks good on paper.
(Henderson v Jackson) (Liddel v Silva) (Silva v Henderson), but it kind of detracts from the fighters who are genuinely earning title fights, by rising up the ranks and beating genuine contenders.

For example, I think Forrest Griffin has more than earned a title shot, after his last fight, but it looks like The winner of Silva & Liddel will get the next shot at Rampage and then there's the other decent Shoot box fighters in the Light Heavy weight division look ahead of him and even Evans.

Just can't understand it, becuase what we are seeing, is fights everyone wanted to see 3 or 4 years ago, but know with guys who are past their best or lost their hunger.

realtarragona · « **Reply #238 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:12:00 pm »

Evans won't get a title shot for quite some time and nor should he.

The only questionable one there is if Liddell or Silva end up facing Rampage next. The other two are fine. Henderson was PRIDE champion so deserved it as much as anyone considering the two organisations are now one. And as for him facing Anderson Silva, there really isn't many other options. Plus again, he was the champion in PRIDE.

Joe Rogans Chin · « **Reply #239 on:** November 19, 2007, 05:24:37 pm »

Fedor Emelianenko would have got a shot at Couture had he been signed by UFC.
Cro cop would have got a shot at the title had he beat Gonzaga, after 1 fight.
Rampage was another example, 1 fight in UFC and then a title shot.

I agree about the middleweight situation, but I just feel the star matchups are a bit too gimmikey.