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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54000 on: November 6, 2019, 04:23:38 pm »
When you think about the way Aubameyang treated Dortmund when he was captain their, it’s just ridiculous to make him captain.

Xhaka has been very badly treated
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54001 on: November 6, 2019, 04:29:47 pm »
When you think about the way Aubameyang treated Dortmund when he was captain their, it’s just ridiculous to make him captain.

Xhaka has been very badly treated

Auba was never captain of Dortmund, beyond maybe a couple games, Schmelzer, Reus and Sokratis where all ahead of him, so if none of them played, he would have been next choice!

He really isn't classic captain material I don't think, which I suppose shows how little leadership Arsenal have at the moment.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54002 on: November 6, 2019, 04:37:30 pm »
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54003 on: November 6, 2019, 04:39:59 pm »
It may not have been smart by Xhaka, but he was entirely justified to tell the fans booing him to go forth and multiply. They are the guilty party here and he doesn't need to apologise. Why should he take it? If my clients booed/insulted me whilst doing my job I'd tell them where to go as well. Saying he abused the fans is laughable.

The only reason that it isn't smart is because its not good for his career; nothing to do with the right and wrongs of the situation.


Because quite simply, 'the fans' are not a single person - whereas Xhaka is.  Again, you are right in a vacuum, but this is football and I do agree he was justified to be frustrated and tell the fans to fuck off.  But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.  Sure, you can start removing fans from the ground for booing people, but then you start banning users online who abuse them, why not remove comments who are negative too?  At the end of the day reacting against the fans rarely goes well for a player, even if it's the right choice in the moment to say 'I don't deserve this moment'.

In many ways it is a lot like tailgating the person who cuts you up and sticking your fingers up for them to see in the mirror.  Sure, they're in the wrong - your actions are justified, right?  But you're still acting the idiot.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54004 on: November 6, 2019, 04:41:04 pm »
Auba was never captain of Dortmund, beyond maybe a couple games, Schmelzer, Reus and Sokratis where all ahead of him, so if none of them played, he would have been next choice!

He really isn't classic captain material I don't think, which I suppose shows how little leadership Arsenal have at the moment.

Surprised they didn't give it to Leno, he's been playing well and has been kept far busier than he should be.  I'd much prefer Auba focused on scoring goals and nothing else.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54005 on: November 6, 2019, 04:45:28 pm »
Surprised they didn't give it to Leno, he's been playing well and has been kept far busier than he should be.  I'd much prefer Auba focused on scoring goals and nothing else.

Leno's a good shout actully. He captained Leverkusen a fair bit too.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54006 on: November 6, 2019, 04:59:31 pm »

Because quite simply, 'the fans' are not a single person - whereas Xhaka is.  Again, you are right in a vacuum, but this is football and I do agree he was justified to be frustrated and tell the fans to fuck off.  But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.  Sure, you can start removing fans from the ground for booing people, but then you start banning users online who abuse them, why not remove comments who are negative too?  At the end of the day reacting against the fans rarely goes well for a player, even if it's the right choice in the moment to say 'I don't deserve this moment'.

In many ways it is a lot like tailgating the person who cuts you up and sticking your fingers up for them to see in the mirror.  Sure, they're in the wrong - your actions are justified, right?  But you're still acting the idiot.

No-one is talking about punishments. Just that if fans boo their own players they can expect to be told to fuck off and quite rightly. And the fans shouldn't expect an apology. As for the fans being multiple people - his comment was only directed at the ones booing him.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54007 on: November 6, 2019, 05:12:41 pm »
No-one is talking about punishments. Just that if fans boo their own players they can expect to be told to fuck off and quite rightly. And the fans shouldn't expect an apology. As for the fans being multiple people - his comment was only directed at the ones booing him.

I brought up punishments because often the best way to incentivise behaviour is to encourage a positive contribution and penalise negative.  Abusing players certainly falls under the negative.  Overall it's a culture issue though - not sure what booing players is meant to achieve to be honest, but it is what it is.  Largely a part of this (in my opinion) is due to the Arsenal crowd often trending a little older due to ticket price, some perhaps having a 'this isn't like the good old days' attitude instead of committing to enjoying the match regardless.  It's been like this for quite a few years.

Either way, it's providing some good popcorn for other fans however it isn't helping the season - Spurs and Utd are looking shaky, but a resurgent Leicester City and Chelsea (despite their transfer ban) will mean cocking up top 4 again will be a shocker.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54008 on: November 6, 2019, 05:45:32 pm »
Went on Arsenal Mania. They literally were gutted when they took the lead and celebrated conceding the equaliser. Didn't realise the hatred of Unai was so much.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54009 on: November 6, 2019, 05:49:22 pm »
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54010 on: November 6, 2019, 05:49:56 pm »
Went on Arsenal Mania. They literally were gutted when they took the lead and celebrated conceding the equaliser. Didn't realise the hatred of Unai was so much.
They are still 4 points ahead top of their group. WTF more do they want?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54011 on: November 6, 2019, 05:50:26 pm »
what a pathetic bunch  :lmao

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54012 on: November 6, 2019, 06:02:38 pm »
Why were they playing tonight on a CL night?

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54013 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:09 pm »
what a pathetic bunch  :lmao
They couldn’t have handled the Xhaka thing any worse imo - I mean do they think anyone’s going to be feeling better about it now?

They should have just embraced the bad vibes and at least put a bit of fire in everyone’s belly for a bit.  The last thing they need is to make like Team Nicey-Nice, they’ve been trying that since Vieira left and look where it’s got them.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54014 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:21 pm »
Fucking hell.


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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54015 on: November 6, 2019, 06:03:46 pm »
Why were they playing tonight on a CL night?

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Due to another team Braga are playing at home nearby in the same comp tomorrow, UEFA rules no teams can play at home same matchweek.
 
21.03 If more than one club from the same city, or within a radius of 50km (31 miles) of
each other, is taking part in any of the UEFA club competitions and/or plays in the
same stadium, and if the association and the clubs concerned explicitly declare
when entering the clubs that their matches cannot be played on the same day or
on consecutive days, the UEFA administration may alter or confirm dates and kickoff times in accordance with the principles set by the Club Competitions
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54016 on: November 6, 2019, 06:08:09 pm »
It gets better. Aaron Ramsey just scored for Juventus.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54017 on: November 6, 2019, 06:21:50 pm »
Surprised they didn't give it to Leno, he's been playing well and has been kept far busier than he should be.  I'd much prefer Auba focused on scoring goals and nothing else.

Agree about Leno. It would mean putting him in front of the media more often and I always find his monologues entertaining.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54018 on: November 6, 2019, 07:37:19 pm »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54019 on: November 6, 2019, 07:40:58 pm »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21

This why he should be the next Arsenal Captain.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54020 on: November 6, 2019, 07:47:28 pm »
Mother of god...

Police have released new video of Kolasinac being attacked.

He literally just ignores the guy feinting to attack him with a knife!

https://twitter.com/futbolbible/status/1192122318346162176?s=21

Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction. 

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54021 on: November 6, 2019, 09:14:14 pm »
Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction. 
id have been shit scared if I was the guy with the knife!!

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54022 on: November 6, 2019, 09:14:53 pm »
Kolasinac is as cold as ice!  That idiot with the knife must have been mightily confused to get such a reaction.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54023 on: November 6, 2019, 10:48:05 pm »
It really is crazy how quickly it goes south at Arsenal.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54024 on: November 6, 2019, 10:51:09 pm »
Must be longing for a top four finish and a last 16 champions league exit.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54025 on: November 6, 2019, 11:13:06 pm »
Merson saying David Luiz should've been made Arsenal captain, is he back on the bottle????
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54026 on: November 6, 2019, 11:15:37 pm »
Merson saying David Luiz should've been made Arsenal captain, is he back on the bottle????
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54027 on: November 7, 2019, 05:24:53 am »
How come Arsenal played on Wednesday?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54028 on: November 7, 2019, 05:34:47 am »
How come Arsenal played on Wednesday?
Because Sporting Braga (<25 km away) plays a home game on Thursday?
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54029 on: November 7, 2019, 07:32:29 am »
They had a great transfer window though.   ;)

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54030 on: November 7, 2019, 11:21:43 am »
520 completed passes last night. Only one into the box. Ouch.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54031 on: November 7, 2019, 12:15:18 pm »

Because quite simply, 'the fans' are not a single person - whereas Xhaka is.  Again, you are right in a vacuum, but this is football and I do agree he was justified to be frustrated and tell the fans to fuck off.  But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.  Sure, you can start removing fans from the ground for booing people, but then you start banning users online who abuse them, why not remove comments who are negative too?  At the end of the day reacting against the fans rarely goes well for a player, even if it's the right choice in the moment to say 'I don't deserve this moment'.

In many ways it is a lot like tailgating the person who cuts you up and sticking your fingers up for them to see in the mirror.  Sure, they're in the wrong - your actions are justified, right?  But you're still acting the idiot.

I was okay with Xhaka, as I felt his reaction was justified. But your explanation gives me pause. Xhaka didn't deserve this, but I agree now that he probably shouldn't have reacted in the way that he did. However, I don't agree with this part:

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But looking bigger picture here, you can't punish 'a fanbase' - even if you're talking about 0.01% who is actually doing this sort of thing.

You absolutely should be taking some steps with your fanbase, not punishment necessarily but something. The way your fans have gone about with the team is not going to attract any decent players. The decent ones currently present may even want to leave.
IMO, the first thing that should happen is to get rid of AFTV. Spreads toxicity in the fanbase, and makes mountains out of the smallest molehills.
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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54032 on: November 7, 2019, 12:15:48 pm »
Did Pepe light it up last night?

I am still confused about him - he seems like he has the tools to be a great player....

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54033 on: November 8, 2019, 08:43:17 am »
520 completed passes last night. Only one into the box. Ouch.

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54034 on: November 8, 2019, 10:38:37 pm »
That Portuguese side almost scored again straight after their goal, hit the post, lol, the meltdowns on AFTV would have been biblical

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54035 on: November 8, 2019, 11:09:42 pm »
Did Pepe light it up last night?

I am still confused about him - he seems like he has the tools to be a great player....

Remember when we called Lille and said "we don't want him, stop using Liverpool to get some sucker team to pay over the odds for him"
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« Reply #54036 on: November 8, 2019, 11:11:57 pm »
Remember when we called Lille and said "we don't want him, stop using Liverpool to get some sucker team to pay over the odds for him"

The best was Lille and his agent still insisting he had an offer from Liverpool (and he may have but at half the price).

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« Reply #54037 on: November 8, 2019, 11:14:22 pm »
The best was Lille and his agent still insisting he had an offer from Liverpool (and he may have but at half the price).

36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!
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« Reply #54038 on: November 8, 2019, 11:17:00 pm »
36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!

Haha

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Re: General Arsenal Thread - Wenger Gone - Unai Emery appointed
« Reply #54039 on: November 9, 2019, 12:38:49 am »
36m? If that's true that's a rare fuck up by Michael and the gang!

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