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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7680 on: November 30, 2022, 10:37:41 am »
Watched this last night, it was shite.

It was practically meant to be, wasn't it? it was meant to be stupid
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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« Reply #7681 on: November 30, 2022, 10:42:11 am »
I hope they have enough weirder aspects now accepted to really go full in with proper Doom (not electric dude or standard evil Russian), without introducing the bad stuff (quips mainly). In fact I hope he instantly snaps a dudes neck for joking about in his presence.

I would give him a standalone movie and base it on Books of Doom, that comic about his life as a gypsy and his rise to power.  Then you introduce him into the wider universe.
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« Reply #7682 on: November 30, 2022, 10:54:48 am »
It was practically meant to be, wasn't it? it was meant to be stupid

It was but this went beyond stupid.

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« Reply #7683 on: November 30, 2022, 08:34:53 pm »
Like at this point the main things I am hanging out for are X-Men, and the villains of Fantastic Four (Doom, Galactus, Silver Surfer) I'm not even bothered by the Four themselves but I fucking love Doom

Black Panther 2 I think is also the first time I heard the word "Mutant" said in the MCU which feels significant.

"Mutant" also got a brief mention in Ms Marvel, complete with a nod to the cartoon theme tune.

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I enjoyed BP2 for the most part, even though I've walked out of both now thinking more about all of the little negative things, rather than the positives.

I was wondering how they were going to handle the fact that Shuri has never been a fighter, only to find they just ignored it and she was magically brilliant at it after drinking the flower. I was hoping they'd find a way to make it M'baku or Nakia instead but the people behind it seem determined to do things a certain way, regardless of how much sense it makes. I still find it jarring how these super advanced nations both fight largely with spears and stuff with no explanation.

The fight choreography wasn't great either, especially the fighting on the side of that weird Wakandan boat that looked like it could topple over at any moment.

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7684 on: November 30, 2022, 09:38:16 pm »
There are spoiler tags for a reason  ;D
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« Reply #7685 on: December 1, 2022, 12:14:07 am »
There are spoiler tags for a reason  ;D

I know but it's been out for weeks so I figured it's fair game to go without now. I've edited the post regardless.

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« Reply #7686 on: December 1, 2022, 01:26:56 pm »
The actor who plays Ms. Marvels dad in the tv show has been accused of grooming and sending pictures to a minor the sick fuck.

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« Reply #7687 on: December 1, 2022, 10:27:19 pm »
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7688 on: December 2, 2022, 08:36:34 am »
That trailer is pretty great. Maybe should have left Gamora out but it looks like it’s got its usual blend of comedy and action, but maybe actually a bit darker for once.

I think that outside of the brevity and lightness, Guardians has produced two of the better one off villains the MCU’s done - Ronan the Accuser and Ego - and there were some really dark moments with both. They should hopefully lean into that.

The next phase needs to be a bit more serious for me, closer to the tone of the first phase, because certainly Love and Thunder took it way too far with the jokes and the whole last phase for me was underwhelming.

On BP2, I agree with Schmidt.

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For all of Shuri’s genius and innovation, she’s no warrior. No trained fighter. Her gadgets were her defence. All of a sudden she can best Namor? Not having it. T’Challa and Killmonger were soldiers and killers. Shuri felt forced, there was a redemption arc in there for her without needing to make her the Panther. A big statement would be to have had no Black Panther at all in the movie. I guess Disney would never have signed off on that. The movie was no better, in fact worse, for the 30 minutes of its nearly three hour run time in which there was Black Panther presence on screen.
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7689 on: December 2, 2022, 09:19:59 am »
Lee Pace is great as Ronan. He is very good in Foundation as well. He has a certain way of delivering twisted monologues

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7690 on: December 8, 2022, 04:59:25 am »
justs rewatched Iron Man as i was in a marvel mood and rewatching anything recent didn't excite me at all

fuck me, what a great movie and when i think of the lead players at the start with stark, capt america, thor (before he was an absolute joke) and ruffalo's hulk, what the fuck do we have now as main contenders - not a lot with thor thrown away for light relief and fuck knows what they're doing with the hulk and replacements for the other two are totally underwhelming to put it as nicely as i can

i haven't seen black panther II yet so i'll comment on phase four after that but... yeah, one movie aint gonna save it no matter how good it might be

oh and a sidenote, Terrence Howard was totally the much better actor for that role, pity how that turned out cos i find Don Cheadle instantly forgettable and doesn't really bring anything to the movies that character is in
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7691 on: December 13, 2022, 05:48:25 pm »
Trailer for the Spider-verse sequel has been released

https://youtu.be/cqGjhVJWtEg
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7692 on: January 9, 2023, 09:59:18 pm »
Only just heard that Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye) was completely crushed under a 7 ton snow plough on New Year's Day. He's alive, thankfully, but in a pretty fucked up condition, as one would expect.

Wishing him a speedy recovery!
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« Reply #7693 on: January 9, 2023, 11:07:35 pm »
Only just heard that Jeremy Renner (Hawkeye) was completely crushed under a 7 ton snow plough on New Year's Day. He's alive, thankfully, but in a pretty fucked up condition, as one would expect.

Wishing him a speedy recovery!

Yeah when you see the vehicle that's crushed him it seems like a miracle that he survived

New trailer out for Quantumania in a few hours.

Feel like an idiot only realising in the last few days Quantumania has the words Ant Man within it.
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7694 on: January 10, 2023, 07:24:21 pm »
State of Modok, they literally just stretched and pasted that's actors face. :lmao

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7695 on: January 10, 2023, 07:50:06 pm »
State of Modok, they literally just stretched and pasted that's actors face. :lmao

They did a better job in the MODOK Disney cartoon than they did there

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7696 on: January 10, 2023, 09:46:14 pm »
State of Modok, they literally just stretched and pasted that's actors face. :lmao

So it’s Corey Stoll? Darren Cross from the first one? I’m pretty fed up with them now, seems pointless with all this multiverse rubbish.

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7697 on: January 11, 2023, 10:45:50 am »
I'm so behind on MCU stuff (kinda lost motivation) so only now watching Ms Marvel. I know it's aimed at younger people, but I'm quite enjoying it. He mum is brilliant - reminds me of a friend's mum (she came here from Pakistan in the 70's).

Do I need to watch She-Hulk for continuity reasons? I'm viewing watching it as a chore.

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7698 on: January 11, 2023, 11:38:05 am »
I'm so behind on MCU stuff (kinda lost motivation) so only now watching Ms Marvel. I know it's aimed at younger people, but I'm quite enjoying it. He mum is brilliant - reminds me of a friend's mum (she came here from Pakistan in the 70's).

Do I need to watch She-Hulk for continuity reasons? I'm viewing watching it as a chore.

Thor: LaT is next up.



She Hulk has one tiny thing at the end that might come up again going forward, but that's all I can think of. I'll spoiler it below in case you want to skip the rest.

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Hulk now has a son who is also a hulk.
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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7699 on: January 11, 2023, 11:46:24 am »
You should probably just not watch She-Hulk cos it was properly rubbish, and annoying.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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« Reply #7700 on: January 11, 2023, 11:48:03 am »
You should probably just not watch She-Hulk cos it was properly rubbish, and annoying.

This.

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7701 on: January 11, 2023, 11:53:04 am »
I'm so behind on MCU stuff (kinda lost motivation) so only now watching Ms Marvel. I know it's aimed at younger people, but I'm quite enjoying it. He mum is brilliant - reminds me of a friend's mum (she came here from Pakistan in the 70's).

Do I need to watch She-Hulk for continuity reasons? I'm viewing watching it as a chore.

Thor: LaT is next up.
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« Reply #7702 on: January 11, 2023, 12:10:15 pm »
So it’s Corey Stoll? Darren Cross from the first one? I’m pretty fed up with them now, seems pointless with all this multiverse rubbish.

I can't quite remember but didn't he get shrunk down to oblivion in the first one. Maybe from that he turned into MODOK.

Or if they are just casting actors in different roles, hey maybe we get Karl Urban as Wolverine which is OK with me

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7703 on: January 11, 2023, 01:11:54 pm »
So it’s Corey Stoll? Darren Cross from the first one? I’m pretty fed up with them now, seems pointless with all this multiverse rubbish.

Brace yourself..





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« Reply #7704 on: January 11, 2023, 03:32:32 pm »

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« Reply #7705 on: January 11, 2023, 03:33:15 pm »
Haha Modok looks like the Gamesmaster.
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« Reply #7706 on: January 11, 2023, 03:39:52 pm »
It's skippable, but it is silly fun. Don't listen to the joyless internet.

There is joyless and then there is enjoying any old shite  ;D

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Re: Marvel Musings. Now with Spidey Spoilers.
« Reply #7707 on: January 11, 2023, 04:30:59 pm »
Haha Modok looks like the Gamesmaster.


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« Reply #7708 on: January 11, 2023, 04:32:31 pm »
To be fair, its a tough character to make work in live action.....but yeah, amazingly bad!
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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« Reply #7709 on: January 11, 2023, 06:44:16 pm »
They should've used the stop motion model and had Patton Oswalt voice him.
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« Reply #7710 on: January 12, 2023, 01:06:41 am »
they've been reporting on re-shoots as late as last week for antman (some say they've been doing them for weeks) - and being this late on aren't the normal 'booked in' reshoots of marvel films

apparently the original cut screened really well, with those privy to it saying it's the best marvel film for years

that wont be what we get to see, interference from above is the industry 'inside' take on the reason for the reshoots in that it was too sombre and lacking that marvel 'humour' - fuck me, fuck me, fuck me, if that is the case - and those at the top wanted reshoots to give it more light relief and fit into the marvel mode

the latest trailer is really sombre, there's not a lighthearted moment in it, which in itself is unusual (and fucking welcome imo), which kinda back up the inside take on the sombre nature of the movie

it's still meant to be good but not as good as the original cut

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« Reply #7711 on: January 16, 2023, 02:49:23 pm »
Finished Ms Marvel and loved it.

Probably put it No3 in the MCU TV shows:


1) WandaVision
2) Moon Knight
3) Ms Marvel
4) Loki
5=) Hawkeye
5=) Falcon & Winter Soldier
6) What If

Not bothered with She Hulk.

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« Reply #7712 on: January 18, 2023, 08:42:08 am »
She-hulk is worth it overall I think - it has some nice ties to other productions, sets some stuff up, generally is easy watching.

If you expect it to be on the scale of WandaVision you will be disappointed but for something to watch and for its connections to future Marvel stuff it is perfectly entertaining

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« Reply #7713 on: January 18, 2023, 11:26:34 am »
She-hulk is worth it overall I think - it has some nice ties to other productions, sets some stuff up, generally is easy watching.

If you expect it to be on the scale of WandaVision you will be disappointed but for something to watch and for its connections to future Marvel stuff it is perfectly entertaining

She-Hulk was great but that final episode is one of the worst things I've ever seen and almost ruined it for me

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« Reply #7714 on: January 19, 2023, 04:20:20 pm »
She-Hulk was great but that final episode is one of the worst things I've ever seen and almost ruined it for me

See, I loved the final episode for how ridiculous and fuck the 4th wall it was!

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« Reply #7715 on: January 28, 2023, 11:04:08 pm »
Watched Thor tonight for the first time in years, didn't like it at the time. But compared with some of the recent ones, it is good. It doesn't get too complicated like they do now. Not too much humour either.

Think l might revisit the second one again soon,with a bit of trepidation.

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« Reply #7716 on: February 1, 2023, 02:13:36 pm »
Wakanda Forever on Disney+ from today.

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Another huge disappointment for me. Was left thinking they probably should have just scrapped this after Boseman's death and waited longer to either reboot/recast/rethink it. It's overlong, got far too many things going on (seriously felt like I was watching a Black Panther film with a few back door pilots thrown in) and Letitia Wright just isn't a star capable of carrying a franchise. In fact I think she's pretty bad in this film.

The tributes were done really well, Angela Bassett was fantastic and THAT cameo stole the film, but yeah, aside from that a real let down.
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« Reply #7717 on: February 1, 2023, 02:54:11 pm »
finally got to see Wakanda Forever and boy, was that that an utter mess.

I know losing a charismatic lead that carried the first movie (which i liked) and anything wakandan that was good put them in a difficult position with re-writes etc but that doesn't excuse what they ended up with. personally i think they'd done better recasting the role. the only thing i liked in the whole thing was the very final montage, which was moving and showed the stark contrast between what was lost and what replaced it. Literally seconds of a montage carried more weight than the whole fucking movie (and i dont mean cos of his death but because of his presence, a genuine character with presence, something the movie never had). Yes, Angela Bassett was great (she always is) but that's not a character of presence to carry a movie, which it sorely needed.

was a fitting end i guess to phase 4 which was garbage and it's aging worse across the board. The only exception is the Spiderman movie, which was good and gets better with age. Other than that in phase 4 the only merit i can find is a great costume in Moon Knight and the first half of Wandavision (before it fell apart when the real world kicked in).

however, they have greater problems than a shite phase as i see it. I've recently watched Dr Strange, Reed Richards, Charles Xavier, Wanda and more die and it means... utterly nothing. It doesn't matter who fucking dies now, they just go get another one. There's no real repurcussions that matter, no consequences that really impact, oh he's dead, no worry, here comes another one.

They have to shutdown the multiverse thing quicktime or work into it some rules that brings back a sense jeopardy cos as it is, it has none. It's become a parody of itself, almost everything looks and feels the same, continual use of 'humour' that isn't funny, with characters of little substance, including their A listers with Thor a joke and hulk whatever the fuck he is now, just a great green giant of blandness.

A good start would be to get some writers in who know what the fuck they're doing and then let them do it.

Cos as i commented in the DC thread, i wholeheartedly agree with the sentiments of Gunn et al. It's not superhero fatigue, it's bad movie fatigue.
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« Reply #7718 on: February 1, 2023, 04:01:38 pm »
I wish I could say Spiderman No Way Home is aging well. It just feels like fan service dialled up to 11 and plot and character development files out the window at times.

But yeah, on the whole phase 4 is just a mess. Lots of it feels cliched and tired at this point.

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« Reply #7719 on: February 2, 2023, 12:24:40 pm »
funnily enough, i had a similar experience at first

on first watch i didn't like it that much (pretty sure i posted that on here) and saw it as the ultimate fan service - not necessarily a bad thing in itself but yeah, i thought they'd gone over the top and relied on it

overtime i thought back and that maybe it wasn't so bad (i think part of this was because just how bad everything else was), so anyway i watch it again and sure there are bits that are meh but actually i've come to view it as a good movie and its aging fine in my eyes

if you only saw it once, i'd say give it another go if you have time to spare and see how it sits. im not saying someone has to see it twice if they cant fucking stand it  ;D but i rewatched it more out of curiousity and saw it differently, you might, you never know
Losing your only chance of silverware this season to your city rival. At home. With the most expensive squad ever assembled.

Have that, you arrogant wanker. CarraG238