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Ronnie Whelan
« on: May 18, 2019, 01:43:24 pm »
I couldn’t see a thread for Ronnie, which seems ridiculous.  Granted, annoying pundit at times, sometimes attracted criticism in playing days, but what a player.  Had an unusual blend of skill and strength.  Just thought of him having seen him on the lfc Paisley programme.  It’s well known that he started as an attacking midfielder, then moved to anchor.  What I didn’t realise was, he said, he joined Liverpool “as a striker, number 10”.  Back then, you did often hear Liverpool managers saying good players can play anywhere, and you saw that with the likes of Whelan, Lawrenson and Nicol.  I think we are also seeing more of this again under Jurgen.

So Whelan had particular value for his versatility.  Scored a lot of goals, some stunning and important, in his early days, and full of energy, quality, determination and team play.  Certainly deserves a thread.


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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2019, 03:40:40 pm »
He was from before my time but I've heard a lot if comparisons between him and Hendo (a really important player who got a lot of criticism from fans who didn't see how much he did for the team)

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2019, 03:53:11 pm »
I have every admiration for Hendo. He is probably a little more athletic than Whelan, particularly in the middle age of his career.  Whelan was originally quite an attacking but all round midfielder; more technical than Hendo and a better goal scorer.  There are similarities - especially the maturity of team sacrifice - and differences.  I think Whelan was the better overall player, but not by a lot.  I would be interested in the views of other old farts who can comment on both!

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2019, 06:45:42 pm »
I'd say Whelan is a lot more like Gini than Hendo, if we're making that comparison. He could do a bit of it all.
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2019, 07:58:36 pm »
I'd say Whelan is a lot more like Gini than Hendo, if we're making that comparison. He could do a bit of it all.

Agree. Better long distance shooting and passing though

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #5 on: May 18, 2019, 08:01:26 pm »
Scored the best OG you'll ever see in a game against United at OT. ;D
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2019, 10:43:50 pm »
Scored the best OG you'll ever see in a game against United at OT. ;D

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2019, 09:50:30 am »
He was a fantastic player who would be a contender for a spot in midfield in an all time Liverpool Xi. Probably forgotten a little because he spent his career playing alongside Souness, Hansen, Rush, Kenny, Barnes et al. He was a goalscoring midfielder at the start of his career but sat back a bit more later on. He could shoot, dribble, pass, tackle too, the lot. Technically a better player than Henderson IMO, more like Gini, with a bit of Milner rolled in.

Scored some fantastic goals, the winner against Utd in the Milk Cup final of 83 being my favourite. I’ll try to embed a video of it

https://youtu.be/ZV1LSKf85go
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2019, 12:28:00 pm »

Great player, who when he broke into the first team, as a youngster, was a box to box attacking midfielder who could arrive late, get on the end of stuff and finish superbly. He scored important goals at vital times. Maybe injuries took their toll a bit, maybe he just lost a little pace, but later in his career he did become more of a sitting midfielder. Great eye for snuffing out opposition attacks and he could put his foot in with the best of them. I always thought that Ronnie put the needs of the team first and that he sacrificed his own game for the greater good of the team. You can't ask for more.

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2019, 12:34:24 am »
Scored the best OG you'll ever see in a game against United at OT. ;D

Is that the one where he lobbed Grobs from the half-way line? I thought that was the derby.

God knows what was going through his and Grobs' head that day...  :o

Just checked it out on Youtube and aye, it is funny how you remember different things. I had it in my head that it was a backpass from the half-way line for some reason.
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #10 on: June 3, 2019, 03:58:53 pm »
Brilliant player.

Loved hearing his stories yesterday about when he signed & his first game selected he asked (think he was referring to Ronnie Moran) "what do you want me to do"?
Ronnie replied "we've just signed you for 750k and you're asking us what you need to do"!!
I know the fee was wrong by the way..pretty sure RW said 750k.

..and the time when we had won the league title & Moran puts a bag of medals on the table & says to the lads "If you think you have earned one of those..take one"


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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #11 on: June 3, 2019, 06:30:19 pm »
Brilliant player.

Loved hearing his stories yesterday about when he signed & his first game selected he asked (think he was referring to Ronnie Moran) "what do you want me to do"?
Ronnie replied "we've just signed you for 750k and you're asking us what you need to do"!!
I know the fee was wrong by the way..pretty sure RW said 750k.

..and the time when we had won the league title & Moran puts a bag of medals on the table & says to the lads "If you think you have earned one of those..take one"




Pretty sure that story was about Souness, after he'd just signed.
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #12 on: June 4, 2019, 12:19:22 am »
Pretty sure that story was about Souness, after he'd just signed.
Must be about every player.. Watched Molby the other week tell exactly the same story
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #13 on: June 4, 2019, 09:14:35 am »
Pretty sure that story was about Souness, after he'd just signed.
That story became public and widely quoted first with reference to Jan Molby.

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #14 on: June 4, 2019, 03:31:09 pm »
Aye must have been my bad & missed the reference to Jan from Ronnie if that's the case, great story.
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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #15 on: September 3, 2019, 11:13:58 pm »
Fantastic midfielder. Not as athletic as Henderson but a far better player with the ball. His volleyed goal against the USSR for Ireland in Euro 88 was spectacular.

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2019, 12:25:26 am »
Thank god you don't have to listen to him doing commentary on Liverpool games. Does coverage in Ireland for our European games. Negative doesn't quite cover it. Add Hindsight Houghton to the list as well.

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2019, 05:50:43 pm »
Scored the best OG you'll ever see in a game against United at OT. ;D

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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2019, 05:58:28 pm »
Better than Lee Dixon over Seaman?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpSo1aciPqU


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Re: Ronnie Whelan
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2022, 01:04:36 am »
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A few videos and some info on Ronnie Whelan...





Wikipedia page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Whelan

LFCHistory.net Player Profile page: www.lfchistory.net/Players/Player/Profile/442

LiverpoolFC.com Player Profile page: www.liverpoolfc.com/history/past-players/ronnie-whelan









'Ronnie Whelan – Liverpool Football Club 1979–1994' - a 6 minute video from Mersey Goals:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/VYy9YpVw_1I" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/VYy9YpVw_1I</a>



'100 Players Who Shook The Kop - #30 - Ronnie Whelan' - a 6 minute video:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/O2Mf602qkdY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/O2Mf602qkdY</a>



'My Liverpool: Ronnie Whelan' - an 11 minute video:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/y8oWWBeMP5M" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/y8oWWBeMP5M</a>

^ or click here to watch - www.youtube.com/v/y8oWWBeMP5M



'Ronnie Whelan | My Life in Football' - a 55 minute video from OTB:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/zvgImNvNcp0" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/zvgImNvNcp0</a>



'Hey Ronnie Whelan!' - a 5 minute tribute video set to photos of Ronnie's Ireland and Liverpool career:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/T06CuIxtTBU" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/T06CuIxtTBU</a>



Ronnie Whelan chips Steve Ogrizovic:-

https://twitter.com/sid_lambert/status/1506363997406347267



Ronnie Whelan goal vs Everton:-

https://twitter.com/LFCHistoryShow/status/1508005502487310336



Ronnie Whelan goal vs Manchester Utd in the 1985 FA Cup semi:-

https://twitter.com/irish_pics/status/1515326021926596616



and the erm... unfortunate inch perfect own goal vs Manchester Utd:-

https://twitter.com/bryansgunn/status/1509055737720365056



Ronnie Whelan goal vs Norwich:-

https://twitter.com/1980sHeaven/status/1509778773381566466



Ronnie curls one vs Spurs:-

https://twitter.com/iHyypia/status/1086349255298699265



'Portsmouth 1-1 Liverpool (1991-92) FA Cup semi-final':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/DYsSJUC8fGo" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/DYsSJUC8fGo</a>



'Liverpool 3-1 Spurs | Souness lifts the title number 13 at Anfield':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/B54Trop1UXM" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/B54Trop1UXM</a>



'Liverpool 3-1 (aet) Tottenham, League Cup Final 1982':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/4klQg_z47Lc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/4klQg_z47Lc</a>



'League Cup Classic '83: Liverpool 2-1 Manchester United | Whelan's worldie wins it at Wembley':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/E9KS3WEv1ck" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/E9KS3WEv1ck</a>



'ROME '84: Liverpool beat Roma on penalties':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/uxtwXXcjlSc" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/uxtwXXcjlSc</a>



Liverpool v Everton - '86 Cup Final:-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/LMIE-fIaI1k" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/LMIE-fIaI1k</a>



'FA Cup Classic Highlights: Liverpool 3-2 Everton - '89 Final':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/MEw9bHrdqNw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/MEw9bHrdqNw</a>



'Jack Charlton talks about Ronnie Whelan':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/djvZpN0wHms" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/djvZpN0wHms</a>



'Ronnie Whelan on his Ireland career' - a 5 minute video:-

www.facebook.com/VMSportIE/videos/447613403114199



'The Late Late Show: Ronnie Whelan talks about 'That Goal' in Euro '88':-

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/6IbL4S5ODcY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/6IbL4S5ODcY</a>

^ or here - www.facebook.com/EURO2024/videos/333719618941025


























Some 'youtube playlists' for the 14 seasons when Ronnie Whelan was a player for Liverpool...


1980/81 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXswBVJedMZBVStqoCFYwEur : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7HZuILLysIDp73Uab3qBVfJ

1981/82 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXvDY_y7VL265HOk-Qxp4-eA : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDgk_BDLP9v4bhMtMhOpgpxhUZE9q0i9b

1982/83 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXsTjWxK8Ve3bDrffV-FG8ul : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLA5tRiW-e4AqeTN_6QbSTH7QN05qMcQmx

1983/84 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3KiSUH0tweJQTFRtNJCV_JC5mhOf3gM : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXuu0Db2RekWGr4JVOmDZvRQ

1984/85 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXuu4YB5nb4oFUI1MhpNb56F : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7HyA227KW8P56GySB11hrB4

1985/86 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXt6NomE1dYPbSa7KiVHSUKu : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7Gsgso3XL2BMGU0-UxRnfMm

1986/87 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3KiSUH0twda_ahfsb7XHSBMTXX2bMGG : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7HgN_2IFhSvdObsBdxmkqSV

1987/88 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXsyssK3pgM_JJ6KV8-Hh_0b : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7EIZBPPa4BYCH8xI4HFhoTg

1988/89 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7HpMaqclkaONU7TPJKYKMPj : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLC3KiSUH0twd8Sx0qlUSDLX540y0aVY1v

1989/90 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7GfhbEERKgo_gKL-Jee9wgc : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDgk_BDLP9v5gHLD8Ak0H0C-gEZ1ptwhm

1990/91 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7GacXQVMHwyTV1woOGKQPsJ : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXtyE3eNT0e30-ajtuhKKxxc

1991/92 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXsoYcHgmNlY5ospc6sJFnV8 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7ELTVoYvd8Nt-RfqDTquEds

1992/93 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXskoENZHlncPLNk9PkQLKZE : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7F6NQlh6pUMq2Tym-YBPJTI

1993/94 : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLte5vKHiXI7Eo8exGy7DFTd6FXR1Hg2MB : www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLiIQcmZy0mXsW5C4g7YnMWR6cyLT46SAP



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Honours...

League Championship: 1981/82, 1982/83, 1983/84, 1985/86, 1987/88, 1989/90.

FA Cup: 1986, 1989.

League Cup: 1982, 1983, 1984.

European Cup: 1984.















A few articles on Ronnie Whelan...


Ronnie Whelan: The underappreciated legend who beat the odds at Liverpool: www.thisisanfield.com/2022/07/ronnie-whelan-the-underappreciated-legend-who-beat-the-odds-at-liverpool

How Whelan became the most underrated Liverpool star of all: https://thesefootballtimes.co/2017/04/26/how-ronnie-whelan-became-the-most-underrated-liverpool-star-of-all

Ronnie Whelan’s homecoming during the tumultuous summer of 1981: www.the42.ie/ronnie-whelan-liverpool-1981-ireland-5292252-Dec2020

Paisley's opinion on Ronnie Whelan: www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/614

Exclusive Interview: Ronnie Whelan: www.thisisanfield.com/2006/02/exclusive-interview-ronnie-whelan

Ronnie Whelan remembers...a must read for Liverpool fans: https://extra.ie/2018/04/24/sport/soccernews/ronnie-whelan-remembers-a-must-read-for-liverpool-fans

Ronnie Whelan on the highs and lows of life at Liverpool and why Stephen Kenny needs time: https://punditarena.com/irish-football/ronan-calvert/ronnie-whelan-loi-arena

Anfield Shock: LFC legend admits he was a 'die-hard Manchester United fan': www.liverpool-kop.com/2014/05/lfc-legend-ronnie-whelan-manchester-united-fan-as-a-child.html

I saved my best for clashes with Manchester United: www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-fc-legend-ronnie-whelan-3456789

The Ambassador: https://es.uefa.com/uefaeuropaleague/news/01e8-0e752d505a09-f7214524c9a1-1000--the-ambassador-ronnie-whelan

Ronnie Whelan on why he was left “traumatised” by Liverpool exit: https://punditarena.com/football/kennedymarisa760/ronnie-whelan-liverpool-1

‘They don’t give a f**k about you. After 15 years that was it. I was crying all the way home’: www.lfchistory.net/Articles/Article/4211

My week - Ronnie Whelan: www.thetimes.co.uk/article/my-week-ronnie-whelan-v3c98rp72hs

Ronnie Whelan player profile and info at Transfermarkt: www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ronnie-whelan/profil/spieler/102501














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