Topic: Lets formalise this, Southenders, Northenders, start your engines

[Alf Garnett!]

Takey-born & raised in L4 & moved to L20 when i was 25.

The rest are wool derivatives.

[24/7]

From Dingle.

Its a takey!!

But don't hold your mates hips, cos then your a poof.

Also Dingle (and Tokky) - always heard it called a "backy" though. Is there a generation thing applicable here too? We'd be talking 70s and 80s for me.

[kavah]

I'm listening to a podcast about the history of language in the British Isles

http://historyofenglishpodcast.com/

and realized I could apply some of the principles of comparive linguistics to delve into the Etymology of seater, takey and mogger.

This is what I've discovered: from latin*, Proto-Indo-European*, Welsh*, Irish* and old English* and Anglo Saxon* we have sella, sedlā, suíochán, sedder and scridwægn.

Obviously all of those* are utter wools so we can at this stage discount the modern seater as not of Scouse origin. Similarly backie can be discounted because of its dull ubiquity.

My rearch thus leads me to either takey or mogger being the true Liverpudlian term, but further research is of course required ...

[Alf Garnett!]

Kavah,

I never even heard of Mogger before i read this thread,if someone asked me what it was prior i'd have probably referenced something feline.

"Giz a mogger la"..fuck off ya wool! 😀

[the 92A]

I'm listening to a podcast about the history of language in the British Isles

http://historyofenglishpodcast.com/

and realized I could apply some of the principles of comparive linguistics to delve into the Etymology of seater, takey and mogger.

This is what I've discovered: from latin*, Proto-Indo-European*, Welsh*, Irish* and old English* and Anglo Saxon* we have sella, sedlā, suíochán, sedder and scridwægn.

Obviously all of those* are utter wools so we can at this stage discount the modern seater as not of Scouse origin. Similarly backie can be discounted because of its dull ubiquity.

My rearch thus leads me to either takey or mogger being the true Liverpudlian term, but further research is of course required ...

Fuck off you wool

[24/7]

Albie, you're also from the Dingle, aren't you? What did you know them as?

[only6times]

Has mogger evolved from "mug yer" as in carrying someone in the alehouse?

[kesey]

Has mogger evolved from "mug yer" as in carrying someone in the alehouse?

I think mogger derived from one someone gave their cat a takey home from the pub.

[only6times]

I think mogger derived from one someone gave their cat a takey home from the pub.

Don't be daft. The cats ended up in the pies at Chan's chippy.

[the 92A]

Albie, you're also from the Dingle, aren't you? What did you know them as?

Jim, I left the Dingle as a young kid and went to live in the Northend in Fazakerley, where we always called them seaters although I knew what a takey was but never used the word.

[kesey]

Jim, I left the Dingle as a young kid and went to live in the Northend in Fazakerley, where we always called them seaters although I knew what a takey was but never used the word.

Fazarkerley is too close to Wigan for my liking. You should have stayed in the Dingle and called it a takey.

[Billy Elliot]

I've only heard of seater but I'm a bit of a wool (L30).

[timbucktoo]

its backy for me

[Medellin]

If you are a Scouser you will know it as a Takey.

[Roady]

It's a takey. Anything else is badly wool

[JayH93]

Defo a takey.

[yellowquarry]

It was a backy in Blundellsands in the 1950's!

[kesey]

It was a backy in Blundellsands in the 1950's!

There's our answer people.

[kesey]

At me mah's by Wigan. I was outside having a ciggie and a few kids went past . One of them on foot asked his mate on a bike for a backy.

Game over !

[kavah]

^

Give us a backie jethro, down t'pie shop, I'll just tuck my 20" bell bottoms int' me socks t'void entanglement

[Medellin]

^

Give us a backie jethro, down t'pie shop, I'll just tuck my 20" bell bottoms int' me socks t'void entanglement

You carried that off far too convincingly! 

A backie when we were kids was an entry,not your standard ones between terraced houses but a larger entry which had a few commercial units & car garages in.
For those who were brought up in Walton..Goodhall rd,the back of Clegg's dairy..a proper backie.

[kavah]

You carried that off far too convincingly! 

Ha ha - my wife's from Dingle and I'm from Halewood - the grief she gives me for being a bad wool
And then I got a job in Standish! Great pies like.


 

[Stevie-A]

And then I got a job in Standish! Great pies like.

Pepper Lane bakery is simply sublime. Oh shit, someones wool radar has just activated.

[Dr. Beaker]

You carried that off far too convincingly! 

A backie when we were kids was an entry,not your standard ones between terraced houses but a larger entry which had a few commercial units & car garages in.
For those who were brought up in Walton..Goodhall rd,the back of Clegg's dairy..a proper backie.

In Anfield that was an enno, or a jigger.

Edit; Sorry still half asleep - that was yer standard one between terraced houses, so ignore.

[dave 5516]

Ha ha - my wife's from Dingle and I'm from Halewood - the grief she gives me for being a bad wool
And then I got a job in Standish! Great pies like.

She's not wrong like.

Pepper Lane bakery is simply sublime. Oh shit, someones wool radar has just activated.

The chippy on Pepper Lane? 

[kesey]

^

Give us a backie jethro, down t'pie shop, I'll just tuck my 20" bell bottoms int' me socks t'void entanglement

Hahahaha !!!!!!!!!!

[Stevie-A]

The chippy on Pepper Lane?

No mate, the small place literally next door to the chippy. A little place with no signs. Voted best pies round these wool parts this year! The butter pie is sublime.

[dave 5516]

No mate, the small place literally next door to the chippy. A little place with no signs. Voted best pies round these wool parts this year! The butter pie is sublime.

All I've noticed is the chippy. Them wools make nice pies...there's a shop in Bolton,Ye Olde Pastie Shoppe, that's been there since the 19th century..the pies and pasties are lovely.

[kesey]

Them wools make nice pies   

I hear a cracker before.

I was sitting off in the Mystery having a sly bevvie on my way home from me Mah's. It was a bit windy to say the least and two lads walk past and I heard...

It's so windy you can smell Bootle.   

You actually could.  What is the ghastly smell by the way ?

[only6times]

Them wools make nice pies   

I hear a cracker before.

I was sitting off in the Mystery having a sly bevvie on my way home from me Mah's. It was a bit windy to say the least and two lads walk past and I heard...

It's so windy you can smell Bootle.   

You actually could.  What is the ghastly smell by the way ?

The sewage plant next to Evertons preferred site. Cannot be worse than Garston tanyards way back when.

[kesey]

The sewage plant next to Evertons preferred site. Cannot be worse than Garston tanyards way back when.

So it's the smell of the peoples of Liverpools shite ?

[dave 5516]

So it's the smell of the peoples of Liverpools shite ?

And even that smells better than all them wool gaffs surrounding us.

[Upinsmoke]

Speaking of bad smells, what the fuck is that smell by the skoda/Mercedes van place by Derby Road? It's horrific. I ride past on me bike home every day and it's literally hold your breath time, which is quite hard considering I'm blowing like a fat arse.

[kavah]

^ I think both might be the agri-product-tanks at the old Tate & Lyle storage sites on Regent Road (United Storage or United Molasses now)

Kesey should be especially sensitive to the smell of rendered animal fat   

[Billy Elliot]

Er just like to correct everybody. Only girlie people had 'seaters'. Real budding proper bona fide time served authentic scouse menfolk that weren't puffters would be heard to say - "d'yer wanna crozzy?" or "gizza crozzy".

Merely telling it as it was.

 

We used crozzy, but only for 'cross bar'.  So you'd give your mate a lift on the handle bar at the front of the bike. 

Maybe it's because it was a bit girly to sit on the seat (seater) and it was more authentically scouse and hard to sit on the handle bars.

[leivapool]

Backie/bakkie or backy for me,  although I've never written it down before or seen it written,  so the spelling will remain a mystery!!!

[Grobbelrevell]

It was a 'backy' where i'm from. Some referred to it as a 'croggy' too.

[kavah]

Some referred to it as a 'croggy' too.

There is going to be trouble 





 

[redman1974]

I'm moving to old swan in a few weeks from Leicester.  What's it like to live there anyone's thoughts?

[gazzam1963]

What part you moving too , dont live there but used to drink around there and some decent places there and plenty of shops and pubs as well as great transport links . I'd class it as mid range of Liverpool if that makes sense .