Topic: Injury (and absence) related chat (so the news is kept in the other thread)

[ScouserAtHeart]

Nunez - fuck knows
Bobby - fuck knows
Jota - Feb (mid feb)
Van Dijk - Feb (mid to late Feb)
Diaz - March

Thanks

[Clint Eastwood]

Firmino goes from "a couple of games" out on December 23rd, out for 10 days - 2 weeks originally according to Jurgen, now he's not close to team training after feeling something again. Shambolic.

Add that to;
“Milner felt something, it doesn’t seem serious” - out for a month
“Virgil felt something, it doesn’t seem serious” - out for over a month.

The only thing more baffling than our inaction in the transfer market is how secretive and vague we seem to be about our injuries. We never seem to find out exactly what is keeping them out, and they just randomly start training again (and get reinjured).

[SamLad]

Nunez - fuck knows
Bobby - fuck knows
Jota - Feb (mid feb)
Van Dijk - Feb (mid to late Feb)
Diaz - March

christ this is depressing.

[RedBec1993]

So will anyone find out if Darwin trains today?

[amir87]

So will anyone find out if Darwin trains today?

If it is a hamstring issue then I'd be shocked if he's involved tomorrow, training or no training.

[tubby]

Yeah last thing we need is him out for a long time, if he's touch and go, no way should he be risked.

[RedBec1993]

If it is a hamstring issue then I'd be shocked if he's involved tomorrow, training or no training.

Did Klopp confirm it was hamstring or did James Pearce assume? I’d rather him not be risked anyway.

[amir87]

Did Klopp confirm it was hamstring or did James Pearce assume? I’d rather him not be risked anyway.

Not a clue mate. All we do is speculate these days whether it's about injuries, transfers, ownership etc. No one has any idea what the fuck is going on.

[A-Bomb]

If someone so much as breathes near Salah tomorrow I'm likely going to have a stroke.

[RedBec1993]

Not a clue mate. All we do is speculate these days whether it's about injuries, transfers, ownership etc. No one has any idea what the fuck is going on.

Same. Haven’t felt this unsettled with Liverpool in a long time.

[SamLad]

Not a clue mate. All we do is speculate these days whether it's about injuries, transfers, ownership etc. No one has any idea what the fuck is going on.

yep.  all we can do is read tealeaves and look for hidden messages in .... anything.

[decosabute]

If it is a hamstring issue then I'd be shocked if he's involved tomorrow, training or no training.

Seemed to be a very similar situation with him back between the West Ham and Forest games in October - tight hamstring, monitoring him day-to-day, late assessment etc. In that case, he didn't play against Forest. I'd be very surprised if he plays tomorrow.

[Dave McCoy]

Did I mishear Klopp or did he say Stefan was carrying a knock?

[SamLad]

Did I mishear Klopp or did he say Stefan was carrying a knock?

he said that but said it was a small thing.

so 2 months I guess.

[Fromola]

Add that to;
“Milner felt something, it doesn’t seem serious” - out for a month
“Virgil felt something, it doesn’t seem serious” - out for over a month.

The only thing more baffling than our inaction in the transfer market is how secretive and vague we seem to be about our injuries. We never seem to find out exactly what is keeping them out, and they just randomly start training again (and get reinjured).

You just have to ignore the club when it comes to injuries..if a player is out injured one week just be relieved if he plays again that season. Gordon must have been out 12 months now with the odd vague update.

[newterp]

Did I mishear Klopp or did he say Stefan was carrying a knock?

Hip bruise - but back in training. So should be available.

[Fromola]

Hip bruise - but back in training. So should be available.

Should get a start in the replay at least.

[SamLad]

back in training

should be available.

that doesn't sound right somehow.

[TepidT2O]

Ok, let’s compile a list of players who have not missed a game with a muscle injury this season..


Alisson
Mo Salah
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)


Can we think of anyone else who hasn’t missed a game with a muscle injury?

[disgraced cake]

Ok, let’s compile a list of players who have not missed a game with a muscle injury this season..


Alisson
Mo Salah
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)


Can we think of anyone else who hasn’t missed a game with a muscle injury?

I seem to remember reading the other day Gomez hasn't missed a game through injury unavailability all season which could be true but seems really hard to believe

[classycarra]

Firmino goes from "a couple of games" out on December 23rd, out for 10 days - 2 weeks originally according to Jurgen, now he's not close to team training after feeling something again. Shambolic.

Plus he did an interview on the 28th saying he was about to start training 'probably tomorrow'

We really don't seem to have found a good balance between what the phsyio/medical side are doing (eg keeping players out of training) and the conditioning/coaching side (eg bringing jones back to full training and playing him, only for him to have a spell out where he can't train three whole times - at current count).

Couple that with our early reporting on diagnoses to Klopp. He seems to be told things aren't serious or are very minor (in Milner's case, that came immediately post-match so information was understandably limited at that point, but in the press conferences it seems like there's been a few occasions that he's been told things are minor only for the evidence afterwards to demonstrate that was wrong.

[TepidT2O]

I seem to remember reading the other day Gomez hasn't missed a game through injury unavailability all season which could be true but seems really hard to believe

So that’s


Alisson
Mo Salah
Jo Gomez
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)

Any other names who have NOT missed a game with a muscle injury this season?

[Dim Glas]

So that’s


Alisson
Mo Salah
Jo Gomez
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)

Any other names who have NOT missed a game with a muscle injury this season?

Fab and Tsimikas I think?

[Chakan]

Didn’t Allison just recently miss games? Not because of the World Cup.

[Absinthe]

So will anyone find out if Darwin trains today?

Some chatter on Twitter that he's in the travelling squad for tomorrow but not from anyone I'd call reliable.

[RedBec1993]

Some chatter on Twitter that he's in the travelling squad for tomorrow but not from anyone I'd call reliable.

Guess it’s just a wait and see one then eh.

[Absinthe]

Guess it’s just a wait and see one then eh.

Yep.

But so long as he didn't get on the same train as Leandro Trossard, it's all good. 

[RedBec1993]

Yep.

But so long as he didn't get on the same train as Leandro Trossard, it's all good. 

Can’t find anything on Twitter where is it? Surprised there’s no leaks, there usually is 🤣

[andrewd3]

Yes whoever leaks the team list week in week out in an attempt to boost their social media profile needs to be metaphorically held incommunicado in the boot room for the duration of the season and if necessary the pre season too! There's a reason the lie ups are embargo'd before kick off.

[Clint Eastwood]

So Bobby was initially a 10 day injury, but then came back and ‘felt something again’.

More incompetence.

[TepidT2O]

Fab and Tsimikas I think?

Alisson
Mo Salah
Jo Gomez
Fabinho
Tsimikas
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)

That’s every single other player out with a muscle injury this season… incredible

[Fromola]

Alisson
Mo Salah
Jo Gomez
Fabinho
Tsimikas
Curtis Jones (although he has had a stress fracture)
Diaz (out with a knee injury)

That’s every single other player out with a muscle injury this season… incredible

Essential we don't mess up pre-season next time.

No global tours and and re-think the physical side of it with a lot of players 30+ who've been run into the ground at this point.

Use every excuse in the book to stop players going on any pointless internationals in June as well. That's done for Jota's season as Keita's afcon did a few years back.

[GreatEx]

Hopefully we can give Nunez a run out at Brighton to build up his fitness for the next training session.

[JackWard33]

It’s mad looking round our rivals for contrast…
City - some defensive injuries, Spurs one attacker out that’s it, Newcastle whole first team fit, Arsenal one major forward out that’s it, United whole first team fit

It’s just insane we’ve been in this spot for decent chunks of time for the last 3 years
It’s not remotely normal for a big club

[Fromola]

It’s mad looking round our rivals for contrast…
City - some defensive injuries, Spurs one attacker out that’s it, Newcastle whole first team fit, Arsenal one major forward out that’s it, United whole first team fit

It’s just insane we’ve been in this spot for decent chunks of time for the last 3 years
It’s not remotely normal for a big club

As bad as the midfield is it's injuries that have killed us in terms of being off the pace for top 4.

City have been similarly out of sorts and age and games catching up with a few there. They always have 90%+ of players available though for any match so the drop off from last season less stark in terms of results so far.

I remember Fulham on the opening day and as soon as the team was released and you had a bench packed with kids and then Thiago goes off injured in that game. You think surely to goodness we need to do something here and this was early August.

Had Diaz and Jota stayed fit we'd have more goals and more points and would helped Nunez. Had Konate been fit it would have helped us defensively.

[Egyptian36]

As bad as the midfield is it's injuries that have killed us in terms of being off the pace for top 4.

City have been similarly out of sorts and age and games catching up with a few there. They always have 90%+ of players available though for any match so the drop off from last season less stark in terms of results so far.

I remember Fulham on the opening day and as soon as the team was released and you had a bench packed with kids and then Thiago goes off injured in that game. You think surely to goodness we need to do something here and this was early August.

Had Diaz and Jota stayed fit we'd have more goals and more points and would helped Nunez. Had Konate been fit it would have helped us defensively.

I think one of many reasons is our style of play. We need to work harder than others to win even against small teams. It will help if we can keep the ball better at the opponent own half. Nunez won't last long if we keep playing like we do now.

[LiamG]

When is Jota and Diaz back?

[killer-heels]

When is Jota and Diaz back?

Feb and March.

[Machae]

Feb and March.

Will be like two new signings

[Ratboy3G]

When is Jota and Diaz back?

Not soon enough