Author Topic: Russia 2018 World Cup Squads (Read 35784 times)

Sheer Magnetism · « **Reply #160 on:** May 17, 2018, 10:48:59 am »

Quote from: Skeeve on May 17, 2018, 10:36:26 am

While it is easy to mock his petulance, he'll be 34 by the time of the next world cup with little chance of making the squad, so why not look to extend his club career by calling it quits now?

Five goals in eight internationals, But Wagner's part of that grand tradition of German strikers being excellent at club level, scoring goals internationally and still not getting picked. He's this generation's Dieter Hoeneß or Michael Preetz.

plura · « **Reply #161 on:** May 17, 2018, 10:50:22 am »

Quote from: Clint Eastwood on May 16, 2018, 11:16:54 pm

Brazil have to be favourites, for me.

Ederson
Marquinhos Silva
Danilo Marcelo
Fernandinho Casemiro
Neymar Coutinho
Jesus Firmino

Decent goalkeeper, solid CB pairing, attacking wing-backs. Two anchors in midfield that will allow the front 4 to do the damage. Don't think they'll field this. They should do though.

Does Ederson go ahead of Allison?

Dim Glas · « **Reply #162 on:** May 17, 2018, 11:47:37 am »

Quote from: Skeeve on May 17, 2018, 10:36:26 am

While it is easy to mock his petulance, he'll be 34 by the time of the next world cup with little chance of making the squad, so why not look to extend his club career by calling it quits now?

He is still young enough to make the Euros. Mario Gomez is doing to the world cup aged 32.

it's the fact he's made such a fuss of it that's just plain daft. He had a handful of caps. He's acted like an arrogant idiot for the last 12 months. Been very happy to let the whole of Germany know how great he is and so much better than other players. Why even announce this, just wipe your tears, get ready for the new season to show Loew he made a mistake, and then when he calls you up for the next friendly, go tell him to stick it

Quote from: plura on May 17, 2018, 10:48:07 am

He's probably a better player than Petersen, Muller and Gomez. And he's a different type than Reus and Werner. And being a player you always be disappointed in missing out on the WC.
So I get him being angry. But yeah his action in quitting the national team doesn't really carry much weight. It's easy for Germany supporters to sort of feel, "yeah ok so what"?

I think it's just Gomez having such a good 2nd half to the season that might have scuppered him. And I can see why Loew would pick Gomez ahead of him, I doubt Petersen will make the squad. And Mueller and him are not comparable.

I know it must be gutting for him, but I guess a lot see it as a bit of karma for his behaviour

He isn't so good that he was a sure pick.

Yiannis · « **Reply #163 on:** May 17, 2018, 02:35:56 pm »

Sorry for the off topic but there is no other WC related thread so....

https://twitter.com/darrenrichman/status/996824497486548993

Clint Eastwood · « **Reply #164 on:** May 17, 2018, 05:31:54 pm »

Quote from: plura on May 17, 2018, 10:50:22 am

Does Ederson go ahead of Allison?

Good question, I initially had Alisson then changed him for Ederson. I'm not sure personally, just checked and he Alisson actually played vs. Germany. Not a bad dilemma to have.

Samie · « **Reply #165 on:** May 17, 2018, 05:37:11 pm »

Alisson is the Brazil #1.

Card Cheat · « **Reply #166 on:** May 17, 2018, 05:46:47 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 16, 2018, 10:22:20 pm

Disappointed Santiago Ascacibar hasn't snuck in. Solid first season in the Bundesliga and able to provide the kind of defensive midfield shield Masch used to.

Maybe next time.

Samie · « **Reply #167 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:28:14 pm »

No Bouffal or El Zhar.

Samie · « **Reply #168 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:31:17 pm »

No Mustafa Hadji or Yousef Chippo too.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #169 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:35:45 pm »

Quote from: Card Cheat on May 17, 2018, 05:46:47 pm

Disappointed Santiago Ascacibar hasn't snuck in. Solid first season in the Bundesliga and able to provide the kind of defensive midfield shield Masch used to.

Maybe next time.

What team will Argentina play?

Caballero, Tagliafico, Otamendi, Rojo, Mercado, Biglia, Banega, Messi, Dybala, Perotti, Aguero

Don't fancy Higuain and Aguero together. Can't include Di Maria and Dybala as you are carrying too many. Think this gives them the best shot of balance and brings Messi into the 10 role.

Samie · « **Reply #170 on:** May 17, 2018, 06:37:08 pm »

DiMaria will play I think. They play a loop sided formation and he's like the left hand side of a midfield 3. They also play with a 3 man defence.

Samie · « **Reply #171 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:06:59 pm »

Senegal squad

SlowRap · « **Reply #172 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:35:54 pm »

No Martial, Lacazzette, Payet or Benzima in French squad

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #173 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:38:04 pm »

To say they're fucking stacked would be an understatement.

The North Bank · « **Reply #174 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:38:36 pm »

First french squad at a major tournament without an Arsenal player for 22 years. #Wenger era over

Dim Glas · « **Reply #175 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:39:30 pm »

Quote from: Jacob Rees-Mogg on May 17, 2018, 07:35:54 pm

No Martial, Lacazzette, Payet or Benzima in French squad

The fact that isn't even surprising shows the ridiculois depth of talent they have there.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #176 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:40:06 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 17, 2018, 07:06:59 pm

Senegal squad

Very good squad really. Expect them to get out the group.

Also Stock City hahaha - isn’t that Everton under Sam Allardyce?

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #177 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:40:29 pm »

Look at the state of those attacking options. They're going to have Dembele, Fekir and maybe even Mbappe on the bench. It'd be utopia for England to have even 1 player on the bench of that quality.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #178 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:44:51 pm »

Quote from: Samie on May 17, 2018, 06:37:08 pm

DiMaria will play I think. They play a loop sided formation and he's like the left hand side of a midfield 3. They also play with a 3 man defence.

Interesting so will it be Fazio and Di Maria in for Dybala and Perotti then.

Caballero, Tagliafico, Fazio, Otamendi, Rojo, Mercado, Biglia, Banega, Di Maria, Messi, Aguero

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #179 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:44:59 pm »

Great attacking options for the French who can easily afford to drop Lacazette, Martial and Coman. I think defence is a question mark, but they are comfortably one of the better sides alongside Germany and Brazil

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #180 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:45:57 pm »

Quote from: rafathegaffa83 on May 17, 2018, 07:44:59 pm

Great attacking options for the French who can easily afford to drop Lacazette, Martial and Coman. I think defence is a question mark, but they are comfortably one of the better sides alongside Germany and Brazil

Probably looking at Sidibe, Varane, Umtiti and Mendy in defence. That's the best in the tournament in my opinion. Midfield is probably the weakest area. Kante is a cert but Pogba and Matuidi are not quite at the level of the players Germany and Spain have.

Henry Gale · « **Reply #181 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:49:07 pm »

No Rabiot either. That french squad is impressive.

The North Bank · « **Reply #182 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:52:22 pm »

a lot of top teams, i look at their forward line, then I look at Englands...... Brazil France Argentina, its ridiculous the talent we dont have.

mikey_LFC · « **Reply #183 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:52:28 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on May 17, 2018, 07:40:29 pm

Look at the state of those attacking options. They're going to have Dembele, Fekir and maybe even Mbappe on the bench. It'd be utopia for England to have even 1 player on the bench of that quality.

And they’ve left out plenty of players England simply couldn’t afford too. Proven by the fact we are taking Welbeck and they are leaving out Lacazette.

Thought Ben yedder might go and surprised at some of the defensive options left out though.

Also a very young side which gives them massive hope for the future to win a World Cup.

Would have thought Dembele and Mbappe both start though.

rafathegaffa83 · « **Reply #184 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:52:32 pm »

Just realized they dropped Benzema: an embarrassment of riches

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #185 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:52:36 pm »

No Rabiot no Laporte?

The North Bank · « **Reply #186 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:53:58 pm »

At some stage France will collapse mentally, still a god bet for the semi finals.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #187 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:55:49 pm »

So their best line up?

Lloris

Sidibe
Varane
Kimpembe
Mendy

Kante
Pogba
Fekir

Mbappe
Griezmann
Dembele

Andy @ Allerton! · « **Reply #188 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:58:55 pm »

Just hoping for as few Liverpool players involved in as few matches as possible.

Just want them back safe for a club that actually matters. These internationals are just petty and boring.

GBF · « **Reply #189 on:** May 17, 2018, 07:59:48 pm »

anyone got (& willing to share) a decent excel file to run an office world cup pool?

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #190 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:00:55 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on May 17, 2018, 07:55:49 pm

So their best line up?

Lloris

Sidibe
Varane
Kimpembe
Mendy

Kante
Pogba
Fekir

Mbappe
Griezmann
Dembele

Umtiti is playing, he's been one of the best defenders in Europe this year. I think you're looking at Lloris, Sidibe, Varane, Umtiti, Mendy, Kante, Pogba, Matuidi, Lemar, Giroud, Griezmann from the start. Against crap sides you could potentially see Matuidi dropped for Mbappe.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #191 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:02:52 pm »

Quote from: mikey_LFC on May 17, 2018, 07:52:28 pm

And they’ve left out plenty of players England simply couldn’t afford too. Proven by the fact we are taking Welbeck and they are leaving out Lacazette.

Thought Ben yedder might go and surprised at some of the defensive options left out though.

Also a very young side which gives them massive hope for the future to win a World Cup.

Would have thought Dembele and Mbappe both start though.

They're churning out quality players at an unbelievable rate. Premier League clubs don't seem to have clocked onto it yet. They should be doing a lot of shopping there.

vagabond · « **Reply #192 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:03:36 pm »

I'm hoping to see a front line of Mbappe - Griezmann - Dembele
But I know I'm going to see Giroud in there somewhere

CanuckYNWA · « **Reply #193 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:04:35 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on May 17, 2018, 07:55:49 pm

So their best line up?

Lloris

Sidibe
Varane
Kimpembe
Mendy

Kante
Pogba
Fekir

Mbappe
Griezmann
Dembele

Id go with that but Umtiti over Kimpembe most likely. Wouldnt be surprised to see Lemar start over Fekir though. Fekir deserves to start based on Form this season. If Giroud starts over any of those front three its blasphemy, good bench option and Plan b but that front 3 is fucking mouth watering.

Its also shocking that people were saying Payet would have been taken instead of Fekir if he hadn't got injured.

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #194 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:05:39 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on May 17, 2018, 08:00:55 pm

Umtiti is playing, he's been one of the best defenders in Europe this year. I think you're looking at Lloris, Sidibe, Varane, Umtiti, Mendy, Kante, Pogba, Matuidi, Lemar, Giroud, Griezmann from the start. Against crap sides you could potentially see Matuidi dropped for Mbappe.

Starting Giroud after he's been on the bench for most of the season is absolutely criminal if it happens. He is a good player but when you have the options they have, he should be no where near the starting line up

I wouldn't have Lemar starting either.

Gerry Attrick · « **Reply #195 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:07:43 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on May 17, 2018, 08:05:39 pm

Starting Giroud after he's been on the bench for most of the season is absolutely criminal if it happens. He is a good player but when you have the options they have, he should be no where near the starting line up

I wouldn't have Lemar starting either.

Deschamps absolutely loves him. He started 7 qualifiers, Lemar too is somebody he seems to have an awful lot of time for. Not decisions I'd make, but if you see Griezmann, Mbappe and Dembele start the first game I'd be gobsmacked.

CanuckYNWA · « **Reply #196 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:08:10 pm »

Quote from: Gerry Attrick on May 17, 2018, 08:02:52 pm

They're churning out quality players at an unbelievable rate. Premier League clubs don't seem to have clocked onto it yet. They should be doing a lot of shopping there.

Some of the names they have left out is insane especially in midfield

Ndombele (Beast of a player that i would have taken instead of Matuidi)
Rabiot (would have taken instead of Nzonzi)
Tousart
Bakayoko (quality player whos been mismanaged at Chelsea)
Aouar

Ridiculous talent pooll

Fazak_Red · « **Reply #197 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:09:00 pm »

Is there a reason Ben Yedder won’t ever take a Tunisia call up?

Rejected his only chance to play at a World Cup.

Djozer · « **Reply #198 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:09:48 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on May 17, 2018, 07:55:49 pm

So their best line up?

Lloris

Sidibe
Varane
Kimpembe
Mendy

Kante
Pogba
Fekir

Mbappe
Griezmann
Dembele

Like that, it looks pretty hardcore. I'd maybe have Umtiti in there, but don't know much about Kimpembe. Only saw a couple of Franch matches this year, but in both Lemar started, so maybe him instead of Fekir, even though I think Fekir is a slightly better player? Don't know. However they line up, they'll be a threat. Incredible first team, incredible depth.

Djozer · « **Reply #199 on:** May 17, 2018, 08:12:33 pm »

Quote from: deFacto on May 17, 2018, 08:05:39 pm

Starting Giroud after he's been on the bench for most of the season is absolutely criminal if it happens. He is a good player but when you have the options they have, he should be no where near the starting line up

I wouldn't have Lemar starting either.

Agree with you, but Deschamps seems to really like both of them. I guess both are quite good team players - Giroud always seems to create loads for the players around him, and Lemar's a really good worker and link player.