Topic: Stevie G v Brendan

[jamieredders]

Scottish football just got interesting again

All the best Stevie lad.  A Liverpool legend in every sense and taking on a job where if he finishes above 2nd has surely performed a miracle. 

[BabuYagu]

Never thought I would say this again but...

I think I actually give a shit about Scottish Football for next season.

[surfer. Fuck you generator.]

Rangers aren't in a position to be worrying Celtic yet are they. More a case of Gerrard first earning the right to even be in the conversation v Rodgers by putting some distance between Rangers and the rest. With their reported financial situation, that doesn't seem easy.

[jamieredders]

Rangers aren't in a position to be worrying Celtic yet are they. More a case of Gerrard first earning the right to even be in the conversation v Rodgers by putting some distance between Rangers and the rest. With their reported financial situation, that doesn't seem easy.

Agreed.  Personally think he's crazy, but he's taking a wedge of LFC coaches with him too.  He must think he can do something there.

[jamieredders]

 

[BabuYagu]

Agreed.  Personally think he's crazy, but he's taking a wedge of LFC coaches with him too.  He must think he can do something there.

If his remit is like Klopp's - to get them back to the top domestically in 4 years - then that is achievable. If it is to beat Celtic next season, that is a much bigger ask. Just depends whether Rangers are thinking short term or long term. When they hired the Portuguese coach last summer, all the talk was of how he could beat Celtic next season. Be interesting to see what Gerrard says - as that will indicate what targets he has been set before taking the job.

[CanuckYNWA]

I like how this is titled Stevie G vs Brendan but they might never manager against eachother haha. Lots of rumours of Brendan joining Arsenal or Chelsea next season and while it might not happen i could also very much see Brendan wanting to be back in the premier league.

[elsewhere]

Sorry Brendan but i am with Stevie, hope he wins the league!

[Hazell]

I like how this is titled Stevie G vs Brendan but they might never manager against eachother haha. Lots of rumours of Brendan joining Arsenal or Chelsea next season and while it might not happen i could also very much see Brendan wanting to be back in the premier league.

I think Rogers said he's staying at Celtic (although these days, that's always no guarantee it'll happen) but I can't imagine fans of either of those clubs being overwhelmed at him being appointed. Don't think Arsenal's board will look at him, Chelsea probably more likely but I can see someone like Allegri being more their choice.

[PhaseOfPlay]

I think Rogers said he's staying at Celtic (although these days, that's always no guarantee it'll happen) but I can't imagine fans of either of those clubs being overwhelmed at him being appointed. Don't think Arsenal's board will look at him, Chelsea probably more likely but I can see someone like Allegri being more their choice.

Given that the other runners seem to be Mikel Arteta, Patrick Vieira, and Buvac (?), if Arsenal fans are upset with Rodgers given how shite their team has been run for the past few years (relative to the talent they have), they'd be fools

[BabuYagu]

Given that the other runners seem to be Mikel Arteta, Patrick Vieira, and Buvac (?), if Arsenal fans are upset with Rodgers given how shite their team has been run for the past few years (relative to the talent they have), they'd be fools

Agreed. Would love to see Brendan back in the Premier League. He would immediately be, and by a fucking mile, the best British coach in the league. Although I do really like & respect Howe also.

I would like to see him come back and attain success that Southgate, Hodgson, MOyes, Allardyce and the likes could only dream of just to get the journalists and pundits in this country to think that maybe, possibly, coaches with career 30% win rates are not good candidates for sides who want to achieve anything at all. It is fucking mediocre.

[Hazell]

Given that the other runners seem to be Mikel Arteta, Patrick Vieira, and Buvac (?), if Arsenal fans are upset with Rodgers given how shite their team has been run for the past few years (relative to the talent they have), they'd be fools

I kind of agree, I think he'd do well there (if he were given some time) but I imagine they'd more likely go for someone who the fans would be more agreeable with, given how much pressure the board are under. I'm personally hoping they're looking at a certain former Inter, Liverpool and England manager who has experience of managing clubs with big expectations.

[DutchRed]

If his remit is like Klopp's - to get them back to the top domestically in 4 years - then that is achievable. If it is to beat Celtic next season, that is a much bigger ask. Just depends whether Rangers are thinking short term or long term. When they hired the Portuguese coach last summer, all the talk was of how he could beat Celtic next season. Be interesting to see what Gerrard says - as that will indicate what targets he has been set before taking the job.

Patience definitely is not amongst the top virtues of Rangers fans and whatever quantities they had of it have pretty much ran out. Consolidating second spot is the first step towards challenging first. Can see Gerrard succeding in achieving that but he'd still have to sell it to the fanbase.

[Elmo!]

As a Liverpool and Aberdeen fan who has a strong dislike of Rangers, I'm feeling very conflicted about all of this!

[Dim Glas]

I think Rogers said he's staying at Celtic (although these days, that's always no guarantee it'll happen) but I can't imagine fans of either of those clubs being overwhelmed at him being appointed. Don't think Arsenal's board will look at him, Chelsea probably more likely but I can see someone like Allegri being more their choice.

I'm sure he'd leave in a flash if a club like Arsenal or Chelsea wanted him, but I doubt that he'd be anywhere near the top of their lists.

As for Stevie G vs Rodgers.   I guess I'll have to be cheering Stevie on I can't stand Celtic anyway, not that I am a fan of Rangers or anything, and admittedly I am not going to see any of the games, being as they aren't on tv here anyway!  But I do wish him well, from what I read, it's a really tough job for him, but at least he seems to have assembled a good team with him there, so hopefully it'll go far better than many seem to be expecting.

[Sarge]

Celtic are shite and Rangers are even worse, meh.

Couldn't give a flying fuck about this rubbish.

[zamagiure]

Don't care

[No666]

I could. Only because it would sort our post-Klopp future rather well if Gerrard proved to be as good a manager as he hopes he is. Not often you get a top class manager who 'fits' a club like a glove -- the ethos of the owners and the ethos of the support -- which Klopp does.

[BabuYagu]

I lost interest in Scottish football because of sectarianism.

I can't stand Celtic fans on twitter claiming to be the origins of every chant in football. They are doing it now with Allez! Allez! Allez!

Sure you are Celtic. Sure you are!

[Sangria]

I kind of agree, I think he'd do well there (if he were given some time) but I imagine they'd more likely go for someone who the fans would be more agreeable with, given how much pressure the board are under. I'm personally hoping they're looking at a certain former Inter, Liverpool and England manager who has experience of managing clubs with big expectations.

Benitez has never managed England.

Oh, him.

[gregorio]

I lost interest in Scottish football because of sectarianism.

I can't stand Celtic fans on twitter claiming to be the origins of every chant in football. They are doing it now with Allez! Allez! Allez!

Sure you are Celtic. Sure you are!

They’re sueing Rodgers & Hammerstein for copyright infringement

[PhaseOfPlay]

They’re sueing Rodgers & Hammerstein for copyright infringement

Well, Hammerstein, at least.

They won't want to upset their manager before the Double Treble

[Flaccido Dongingo]

I lost interest in Scottish football because of sectarianism.

I can't stand Celtic fans on twitter claiming to be the origins of every chant in football. They are doing it now with Allez! Allez! Allez!

Sure you are Celtic. Sure you are!

I work with a few of them from time to time, and you're right, they've literally created EVERY SINGLE famous football chant/song, greatest fans in the world etc etc, Rangers supporters are vermin, but this lot aren't far behind.

[mattD]

Best of luck Stevie!

As a Scot and as a non-supporter of either Old Firm clubs, I'm going to be looking forward to Stevie G and Brendan battling it out. Exciting times!

[TomDcs]

Intriguing. Just hope Stevie gets the backing to give him a shot at doing a respectable job. It’s certainly a challenge, fair play to him for backing himself.

[slotmachine]

Rodgers is by far the best british coach. He would run rings around Stevie at the moment. Brendan along with Eddie Howe are the most progressive coaches out of the domestic lot. Also think Chris Hughton is underrated. I also like listening to Craig Bellamy and his views on the game. He is really up to speed on modern european footy and is coaching the kids at Cardiff i believe he could be going places in the next few years. I wouldnt complain if he took over Stevie's job at the u18's. Its funny he works with Warnock at Cardiff and when Bellamy talks about the c*nt reading between the lines you can tell he doesnt respect that direct shithouse style of football. Like Stevie he will probably make the jump into management in the next 6 months.

[Banquo's Ghost]

They’re sueing Rodgers & Hammerstein for copyright infringement

For YNWA? I thought Harry Kane claims he wrote that?

[stevieG786]

#TeamGerrard

[PhaseOfPlay]

Rodgers is by far the best british coach. He would run rings around Stevie at the moment. Brendan along with Eddie Howe are the most progressive coaches out of the domestic lot. Also think Chris Hughton is underrated. I also like listening to Craig Bellamy and his views on the game. He is really up to speed on modern european footy and is coaching the kids at Cardiff i believe he could be going places in the next few years. I wouldnt complain if he took over Stevie's job at the u18's. Its funny he works with Warnock at Cardiff and when Bellamy talks about the c*nt reading between the lines you can tell he doesnt respect that direct shithouse style of football. Like Stevie he will probably make the jump into management in the next 6 months.

Yep - really impressed with the route Bellamy has taken. If she shows any promise at Cardiff, I'd be happy if he was taken on by the academy.

[Upinsmoke]

Obviously I want Stevie to do well and if that's at the expense of Rodgers then so be it, uphill task mind.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Agreed. Would love to see Brendan back in the Premier League. He would immediately be, and by a fucking mile, the best British coach in the league. Although I do really like & respect Howe also.

I would like to see him come back and attain success that Southgate, Hodgson, MOyes, Allardyce and the likes could only dream of just to get the journalists and pundits in this country to think that maybe, possibly, coaches with career 30% win rates are not good candidates for sides who want to achieve anything at all. It is fucking mediocre.

Back in the Premier League yes, but i don't see him managing a  big club. I would like to see him at Southampton.

[elsewhere]

Talks of Skrtel being assistant to Gerrard if true.

[Elmo!]

Talks of Skrtel being assistant to Gerrard if true.

He's already appointed Gary Mac as his assistant. Skrtel would suit the SPL as a player though...

[elsewhere]

He's already appointed Gary Mac as his assistant. Skrtel would suit the SPL as a player though...

Smart appointment imo. Anyone here thinks Stevie will go for Woodburn and Wilson loans?

[Dim Glas]

Smart appointment imo. Anyone here thinks Stevie will go for Woodburn and Wilson loans?

I hope not.

They need to either be here or in a more competitive loan enviroment if they are staying with Liverpool.

[elsewhere]

I hope not.

They need to either be here or in a more competitive loan enviroment if they are staying with Liverpool.

I think a year loan at Rangers will help them a lot rather than playing for a relegation side PL team that may not guarantee playing time. I can see Woodson being starter for a few PL teams but Wilson not yet.

[Dim Glas]

I don't see the point of sending them to the scottish league though, especially Woodburn. If we have hopes for him to make the breakthrough at this club, I'd think he needs to play in a far better league than that next season.

Not saying no one goes there, but just not the youngsters who seem to have that something about them!

[Wullie160975]

I'd be more thinking Brewster, Camacho, Jones, Lewis etc.. if any.

He's worked with them closely already, they know him and they're probably the level just below ready to be in our first team picture this year.

[BabuYagu]

I don't see the point of sending them to the scottish league though, especially Woodburn. If we have hopes for him to make the breakthrough at this club, I'd think he needs to play in a far better league than that next season.

Not saying no one goes there, but just not the youngsters who seem to have that something about them!

I would say more likely would be someone like Kent. Someone who needs to go somewhere and find confidence in his ability to beat people, create and score goals. There is a player in there, but he has regressed at Freiburg and Bristol. He is a weird player to assess why it is going wrong. Technically, certain has no problems. Physically too. Tactically I really like a lot of the things I see in his game. Which means it must be that forth pillar - mental/psychological. The one that is impossible to assess/value as fans but often means the difference between the arse falling out of a much hyped career or not.

Kent doesn't really need a tough challenge. He's had plenty of those. I think he just needs somewhere to put it all together, tear some sides to pieces, win awards and come back with a little bounce in his step (or get people sniffing around him the way they are Dembele, Patrick Roberts etc)

[Bolrick]

I would say more likely would be someone like Kent. Someone who needs to go somewhere and find confidence in his ability to beat people, create and score goals. There is a player in there, but he has regressed at Freiburg and Bristol. He is a weird player to assess why it is going wrong. Technically, certain has no problems. Physically too. Tactically I really like a lot of the things I see in his game. Which means it must be that forth pillar - mental/psychological. The one that is impossible to assess/value as fans but often means the difference between the arse falling out of a much hyped career or not.

Kent doesn't really need a tough challenge. He's had plenty of those. I think he just needs somewhere to put it all together, tear some sides to pieces, win awards and come back with a little bounce in his step (or get people sniffing around him the way they are Dembele, Patrick Roberts etc)

similar to jordan ibe ?