Topic: The Alternative Premier League Table 2017-18

[RooiBefok]

LFC Current & Projected Form : Round 16

[joe ®]

The APLT so far is suggesting 4th place will need around the very low 70s as history suggests.

Indeed. I think Spurs will improve over the course of the season though. We'll need to improve considerably too.

[Always_A_Red]

Indeed. I think Spurs will improve over the course of the season though. We'll need to improve considerably too.

Our recent form is 7 wins and 3 draws from 10. If we're anywhere near that consistency for the rest of the season, we'll piss top 4.

[me76]

Really interesting the difference between the actual table and this in terms of Chelsea's position.  Implies they are doing better than the real table suggests.

[Hash91]

As far as the title race is concerned, City need to lose at least 3 par 3s while their nearest competitors maintain title winning form. If we can maintain our recent form of 7 wins and 3 draws in the last 10 games till the end of January, I'm sure we can challenge Chelsea and United.

Just looked at our fixtures till Jan 31st. We have Arsenal away, City at home and Burnley away. We need to win all three of them.

[JCB]

Relegation APLT: Week 16

[killer-heels]

I am not sure what the ramifications of this was but I reckon it puts Man Utd out of reach for us.

[Hij]

I am not sure what the ramifications of this was but I reckon it puts Man Utd out of reach for us.

The ramifications are pretty fucking gutting considering we were finally putting together some form. Had the win almost sealed against Everton and then couldn't break down West Brom.

Everton and West Brom combines for a mammoth 4 points lost which will look real shite when it's displayed on the graph as a dramatic drop.

United lose 3 against City and par last night - 3 points lost. While the model only factors in they were at home, if they keep winning games like tonight, then they won't drop many more like they did against City as the model doesn't factor in that they played City, only that they should have won at home.

Away from this particular model, even a win and a draw in the last two games would have had us just ever so slightly off 2 points per game and back on pace for continuing Champions League football. We now need to take 9 points from 12 to get back to 2 points per game. Having had two real good fixtures to reel in our early form and get above 2 points per game we are left chasing it with runs of form above 2 points per game. 2.25 needed from the next four which over the season would be enough for 85-86.

I know you shouldn't get too down over results like this but with them coming in quick succession it is hard to take. I can't shake the feeling we should have been level with Chelsea, 3 off United and in a commanding position, with an ever growing confidence and now we are right back in amongst Spurs and Arsenal when we should have maintained a lead over them, if not extended it over Arsenal. Gutted.

In this model we've dropped 6 points in our last three home games. Drawing them all.

[RooiBefok]

APLT Full Table : Round 17

[RooiBefok]

APLT Analysis & Extrapolations : Round 17

[RooiBefok]

LFC Current & Projected Form : Round 17

[sminp]

On a more positive slant we can pick up +4 in our next 2 games and if we do that then the best Arsenal will do is -3 so a lovely 7 point swing.

[sms1986]

On a more positive slant we can pick up +4 in our next 2 games and if we do that then the best Arsenal will do is -3 so a lovely 7 point swing.

Think we’ll do just that, we’ve had a couple of unsatisfactory results but I can’t see it continuing. A win at the weekend will get us right back to where we were.

[supaerheraw]

-6 halfway through the season would feel better.

[JCB]

Relegation APLT: Week 17

[drmick]

The Moyes effect! Better than the Hodgson effect! Imagine, just imagine if, in 2010 that we............

Is the APLT just too graphic (gettit?) and upsetting for public consumption for midweek?

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

In this model we've dropped 6 points in our last three home games. Drawing them all.

Wow!

We've also dropped 6 points in our last three home games in real life, what a coincidence. 

[Prof]

The Moyes effect! Better than the Hodgson effect! Imagine, just imagine if, in 2010 that we............

Is the APLT just too graphic (gettit?) and upsetting for public consumption for midweek?

Something like that.  I've been trying not to think about it 

I'll sort it out this morning

[JCB]

Something like that.  I've been trying not to think about it 

I'll sort it out this morning

Don't blame ya prof. Not really something I want to see myself.

[Prof]

[sms1986]

I think if we stop this mini-slump at Bournemouth (which I'm confident we will) then we'll be back to the great form we were showing before Everton, which will help.

[drmick]

Our form has benn pretty consistent, for the most part just beneath that 71 points line. Unfortunately I think that is where we are headed for season total, in and around 68 points. Whether it is enough for 4th depends on Arsenal and Spurs.

[killer-heels]

Our form has benn pretty consistent, for the most part just beneath that 71 points line. Unfortunately I think that is where we are headed for season total, in and around 68 points. Whether it is enough for 4th depends on Arsenal and Spurs.

Anything less than 70 points this season with this squad then its a failure by the manager and players. Its that simple.

[JCB]

Our form has benn pretty consistent, for the most part just beneath that 71 points line. Unfortunately I think that is where we are headed for season total, in and around 68 points. Whether it is enough for 4th depends on Arsenal and Spurs.

Looks like it, we've been trending along that 71 points line so far this season, but this is football... if we can string a good run of wins together  then it's still possible to rise above our current level. And that's a given for any team out there.

[AndreTheMidget]

Our form has benn pretty consistent, for the most part just beneath that 71 points line. Unfortunately I think that is where we are headed for season total, in and around 68 points. Whether it is enough for 4th depends on Arsenal and Spurs.

That would be really dreadful, especially when the league has 14 teams of varying degrees of shit. But yes, I fear you may be right.

[sminp]

I think we’ll pick up a bit and hit 73-74 points and hopefully that’s enough. 4 points in our next 2 games gives us 35 halfway through the season and I think we’ll perform better in the second half of the season. It also puts us -8 in the APLT so doubling that would leave us -16 or 74 points

[Suareznumber7]

Looks like we’re going to be stuck in a 3 horse race for 4th this year.  Can’t afford too many more missed opportunities to pick up maximum points this year or we’ll be looking at Europa league football next year. 

[sms1986]

Looks like we’re going to be stuck in a 3 horse race for 4th this year.  Can’t afford too many more missed opportunities to pick up maximum points this year or we’ll be looking at Europa league football next year.

We could always just go and win the Champions League, it’ll be tough but not impossible. I think we’ll end up in the top four, though.

[Prof]

[conman]

looking better that. soon we have the chance to take on Arsenal for APLT 4th spot

[TheShanklyGates]

Much needed boost that. 3 points against Arsenal would be absolutely massive. A -3 for them and a +2 for us for a 5 point swing. Worth remembering as well that we took 6 points off Arsenal last season and eventually finished 1 point ahead of them. It's such an important game for us.

[zero zero]

Ha! How swiftly that went up. Looking better.

Cheers Prof!

[sminp]

A win over Arsenal would be absolutely massive for us. At the moment things look in the balance but a win there would tip us over into favourites for the top 4 in my eyes.

[Always_A_Red]

A win over Arsenal would be absolutely massive for us. At the moment things look in the balance but a win there would tip us over into favourites for the top 4 in my eyes.

See I don't see it that way at all. I think the Arsenal game is a must win because of our poor home form where we've lost so many APLT points to lower league teams.

I think we can get the win considering how well we play away from home

[sminp]

See I don't see it that way at all. I think the Arsenal game is a must win because of our poor home form where we've lost so many APLT points to lower league teams.

I think we can get the win considering how well we play away from home

Wouldn't say it's a must win but I do think it's a must not lose game

[Prof]

Arsenal away is a par 1 for a reason... For prospective champions!  We've seen the mockers put on us enough by comments in this thread over recent weeks.

Yes I am highly superstitious, but it did win us number 5 in 2005, the FA Cup in 2006 and the cup treble in 2001 (it also cost us the league in 2014 - for which I'm eternally remorseful).

[joe ®]

See I don't see it that way at all. I think the Arsenal game is a must win because of our poor home form where we've lost so many APLT points to lower league teams.

I think we can get the win considering how well we play away from home

I agree. Our consistent inconsistency in our home form means we absolutely have to grab this chance to inflict a -3 on Arsenal. Going to be very tough to make top four this year, and this is effectively a six pointer.

Well, a five pointer in APLT terms.

[Sudden Death Draft Loser]

See I don't see it that way at all. I think the Arsenal game is a must win because of our poor home form where we've lost so many APLT points to lower league teams.

I think we can get the win considering how well we play away from home

I agree that the Arsenal game is a must win, considering how many REAL points we've lost to lower placed teams.

[harryc]

Hopefully Wenger goes full strength in the EFL quarter final on Tuesday.
Mane and Salah running at their back line will be interesting.

[supaerheraw]

Hopefully Wenger goes full strength in the EFL quarter final on Tuesday.
Mane and Salah running at their back line will be interesting.

There is a reason for why our team is so hard to beat. Except for the two off-day losses against City and Spurs we haven’t lost a game in the league or Champions League. Teams can attack us, but we’ve seen several times that it’s a very dangerous move since we score from a counter ten seconds later. The other option is for teams to sit back, something we’ve also experienced many times, which can be a tough challange for us-but one that doesn’t mean a loss.

The difference from last season is that many of our draws would have been losses. It seems we have cut out the awful individual mistakes that last season, and early in this, cost us a goal or two. Possibly, this is the reason why we are in a 15 games unbeaten run. It might not feel like it all the times, but I’d say that we are making steady progress and are just a few signings from taking the next step.

In short, I think we will smash Arsenal and have a good run in the CL in spring. [emoji4]