Author Topic: Twin Peaks (Read 47449 times)

Sahara · « **Reply #400 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:13:33 am »

The Dougie thing did my head in and I've stopped watching it briefly but it feels like I'm defeating myself if I dont go back and complete the season. I don't think I appreciate the show as how Lynch fans and fans of the show do but I'm a curious being and I always get something out of viewing it.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #401 on:** June 30, 2017, 12:03:45 pm »

Madness

I enjoyed it. The scene with the giant and the woman in the theater was beautiful one of the best ever in Twin Peaks if you ask me. Gutted we have to wait another week for the next episode.

Think the thing which annoyed me the most was the NIN scene. Not necessarily the music but just the placing of the scene. I know it broke up the evil Coop scene and everything that followed, but wasn't the biggest fan of it, sorry Dave

S · « **Reply #402 on:** July 11, 2017, 02:26:33 pm »

Liked the latest episode. The parts with Bobby and his Mum recalling Major Briggs were great. As was the smoking scene outside.

abs-ibs · « **Reply #403 on:** July 11, 2017, 05:52:09 pm »

The thing is what is the point of the story at Twin Peaks itself? we have 9 episodes to go and not much has actually been accomplished. A lot of it has been odd and strange shit and we haven't got to know any new characters (other than evil Cooper and maybe Dougie's wife) unlike the previous series.

When things really start moving forward I can watch this a second time from the point where the weird shit stops and a semblance of an ACTUAL story comes in to play.

S · « **Reply #404 on:** July 18, 2017, 02:37:22 am »

Who's still watching then?

I'm enjoying it, as the narrative isn't all that important to me. I don't need things neatly tied off, I'm here for the occasional moment which lingers long in the mind.

That being said, there's an unavoidable weakness. Twin Peaks has arguably the most memorable television character of all time. It's infuriating then, that we are over halfway through this series and he's still not even in it. I posted about this a while back, but it seemed then like his reintroduction was around the corner. Still no sign though. What's more, the Dougie character we have instead is the weakest part of the whole thing.

McrRed · « **Reply #405 on:** July 18, 2017, 07:03:52 am »

Quote from: Extremely Pessimistic on July 18, 2017, 02:37:22 am

Who's still watching then?

I'm enjoying it, as the narrative isn't all that important to me. I don't need things neatly tied off, I'm here for the occasional moment which lingers long in the mind.

That being said, there's an unavoidable weakness. Twin Peaks has arguably the most memorable television character of all time. It's infuriating then, that we are over halfway through this series and he's still not even in it. I posted about this a while back, but it seemed then like his reintroduction was around the corner. Still no sign though. What's more, the Dougie character we have instead is the weakest part of the whole thing.

I've given up. It's been a long and fascinating journey but my feet are tired and I'm going home to soak em in hot water with a hobnob and a nice cup of Horlicks.

WTF? · « **Reply #406 on:** July 18, 2017, 01:29:52 pm »

I never watch it until later on in the week, so I always check in here hoping to see the words, "Coop is back!!".

Looks like I've got at least another week to wait, but they're taking the piss now. They could have condensed the whole Douggie part to two or three episodes top.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #407 on:** July 18, 2017, 03:17:39 pm »

Quote from: WTF? on July 18, 2017, 01:29:52 pm

I never watch it until later on in the week, so I always check in here hoping to see the words, "Coop is back!!".

Looks like I've got at least another week to wait, but they're taking the piss now. They could have condensed the whole Douggie part to two or three episodes top.

I've not hated the ten episodes so far but I agree. I still want to see another series beyond this, because the Dougie/Vegas part has been such a let down to me, it's just not the Twin Peaks loads fell in love with.

Hopefully if it gets another season it'll actually be fucking in Twin Peaks.

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #408 on:** July 22, 2017, 10:56:11 pm »

The first half of the latest episode was the funniest it's been this season. One of the brothers getting hit by the remote and Dougie having sex especially. Loved the last couple of scenes too - anything with the Log Lady is great even if I didn't know what she was talking about and being a fan of Mulholland Dr I loved listening to Rebekah Del Rio again.

Still enjoying this. TV has changed so much since Twin Peaks originally aired and there's such a variety of shows on these days but Lynch has still managed to make this completely different to anything else out there.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #409 on:** July 22, 2017, 11:24:29 pm »

Quote from: DrTobiasFunke on July 22, 2017, 10:56:11 pm

Still enjoying this. TV has changed so much since Twin Peaks originally aired and there's such a variety of shows on these days but Lynch has still managed to make this completely different to anything else out there.

Different, and more importantly, relevant. As you say, TV has changed a lot, visually and thematically. A lot of the charm in the original was how cheesy and camp it was, but again that was partly down to the time, and what it was attempting to parody, which was 80's dramas. Twin Peaks, as a place, and the people that inhabit it, has moved on since then. Well, some haven't, which is why Lucy and Andy stick out like a sore thumb that makes you cringe every single time they are on screen. I think that's Lynch deliberately leaving a reminder in there with those two of how jarring it would have been if he'd just went ahead and tried to recapture everything about the first season. It would have come across as fan service too much and fallen on its face, a bit like the most recent X-Files revival, which was awful.

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #410 on:** July 23, 2017, 05:28:03 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on July 22, 2017, 11:24:29 pm

Different, and more importantly, relevant. As you say, TV has changed a lot, visually and thematically. A lot of the charm in the original was how cheesy and camp it was, but again that was partly down to the time, and what it was attempting to parody, which was 80's dramas. Twin Peaks, as a place, and the people that inhabit it, has moved on since then. Well, some haven't, which is why Lucy and Andy stick out like a sore thumb that makes you cringe every single time they are on screen. I think that's Lynch deliberately leaving a reminder in there with those two of how jarring it would have been if he'd just went ahead and tried to recapture everything about the first season. It would have come across as fan service too much and fallen on its face, a bit like the most recent X-Files revival, which was awful.

That's true. I hadn't thought about why he made them so over the top. I still think the show could do with some of the charm of the original but the new direction works well for me. If Lynch isn't making anymore movies then it's good to be able to see his Mulholland Dr / Inland Empire style one last time.

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #411 on:** July 24, 2017, 10:02:36 pm »

The latest was one of the best episodes yet.

Shelley trying to give her daughter relationship advice is hilarious. She doesn't exactly have the best track record herself. Even the Dougie scenes were great in this one. Jim Belushi is surprisingly good.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #412 on:** July 25, 2017, 01:03:33 pm »

Enjoyed episode 11, had a good balance between Twin Peaks/Dougie/Cole + Albert.

Loved Lynch's 'He's dead.' after seeing the fella's head explode

Think Bobby's had an interesting arc too so far, hoping he's in the remaining episodes a fair bit.

I've been critical of the Dougie stuff as well, but have to say Jim Belushi and Robert Knepper have looked good.

Also, what does everyone think of the possibility of another season? I can't lie, I've been slightly disappointed like a lot of other people about what's happened so far, but it seems like there's a lot of things set up already that surely can't be tied neatly in 7 episodes. Not that Lynch specialises in doing so. Think I do want it to continue beyond this though.

Kopite Tom · « **Reply #413 on:** July 25, 2017, 02:58:55 pm »

Watched the newest episode last night & it could be my favourite of the new series so far. Always great to see Bobby although that woman constantly beeping nearly gave me a headache as I was listening with headphones

I'm guessing the co-ordinates found on Ruth's arm lead them to Twin Peaks?

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #414 on:** July 25, 2017, 05:49:03 pm »

Quote from: disgraced cake on July 25, 2017, 01:03:33 pm

Loved Lynch's 'He's dead.' after seeing the fella's head explode

Forgot about that bit. Properly burst out laughing at that

S · « **Reply #415 on:** July 26, 2017, 12:24:00 am »

Yeah, another good episode.

Literally every character in this is either interesting, funny, scary or all of the above. Except Dougie.

"He's dead" is probably the line of the season so far.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #416 on:** July 26, 2017, 02:08:38 am »

Quote from: Extremely Pessimistic on July 26, 2017, 12:24:00 am

Yeah, another good episode.

Literally every character in this is either interesting, funny, scary or all of the above. Except Dougie.

"He's dead" is probably the line of the season so far.

He's dull, but he's intentionally dull. A lot of stuff clicked in that episode, and it's clear that Lynch has written something where everything has a clear and defined purpose. Thats saying something given how bonkers that some of the stuff is going on here, but it's all starting to add up and make sense, gradually.

There were several moments in this that made me burst out laughing. Things that shouldn't really be funny, but in the context of this show, they just are. The cherry pie in the box scene; the scene where Dougie was being lured to the office via coffee; and the breakfast scene that turned out wasn't actually breakfast as Belushi took a glance at the clock to reveal that it was 10 past 2 in the afternoon. Then there's the scene an episode or so back where Candie cracked Mitchum up the side of the head with a TV remote trying to swat a fly, splitting him open, which at the time might have seemed like another Lynch moment of complete madness with no real meaning, but had repercussions in this episode. Again, completely intentional moments of levity, showcasing that Lynch (could also be Frost's input) also has a firm grasp on comedy value along with the horrific and the weird. He's a brilliant writer.

I'm properly invested in this show now, 11 episodes deep, and can't wait to see where it goes next. I think I look forward to watching this as much as, if not more than Game of Thrones.

Skidder. · « **Reply #417 on:** July 28, 2017, 02:54:02 am »

Big admirer of Lynch but this has very little form and it is apparent in the editing and scene direction that he has little regard for format.

Not surprising really, I always thought that the scene-in-scene Invitation to Love was a slow poke at the very thing that he seems to have now created, a drama. I mean, it isn't all THAT bad, but if you look at Invitation to Love -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFMen60b6UQ

Twin Peaks was always the antithesis of this, but now it has gone far, far left. At least Invitation to Love has some very simple storytelling in there.. regardless of how bad it is, Twin Peaks 3 seems to hold some editing similarities to it.

Of course, I do not mean the zooms, but he definitely likes to hang in there for a while doesn't he?

Lastrador · « **Reply #418 on:** August 1, 2017, 06:42:10 pm »

Well episode 12 felt like a big "fuck you" to the audience, didn't it?

I know that Lynch loves subverting expectations but my god that was fucking infuriating at times, specially coming from an amazing episode 11.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #419 on:** August 1, 2017, 11:23:41 pm »

I liked episode 12, not as strong as last weeks I agree, but a couple of good little moments.

Enjoyed the Sarah Palmer scenes, excited to see what gets explored regarding her in the next episodes.

Also, nice to see Audrey finally turn up in a strange scene.

Said after one of the episodes a couple of weeks back as well, even though Lynch isn't noted for being one to tie things up neatly, that surely they have plans for another season beyond this? Personally I've been a bit disappointed with the return but I feel that if another set of episodes explore a more grounded return to the actual town of Twin Peaks it could be very good. I feel what's happened in 12 episodes so far can't possibly be tied up in only 6 more episodes.

S · « **Reply #420 on:** August 2, 2017, 12:47:19 pm »

That episode gets a thumbs up purely for the return of the Palmer household ceiling fan. Still has that unsettling power.

WTF? · « **Reply #421 on:** August 2, 2017, 08:32:42 pm »

Catches me out every week... theme tune.... opening credits... I'm back home!!! But I'm sorry, this is just an indulgence riding on the back of Twin Peaks. Lynch is not only wanking behind the camera, but he's wanking in front of it!! His character has probably had more screen time than anyone else. Two thirds of the way through and let's face it, everyone is just waiting for Cooper to be back. Even if I get 6 episodes with him in, it still won't be enough.

CrasherKid79 · « **Reply #422 on:** August 2, 2017, 08:57:16 pm »

I'm done.

Waited for Audrey through 12 weeks of nothing then she turns up swearing like a docker and mouthing off.

This has no relation to the character we fell in love with where a look said everything. She rarely talked unless it was with Agent Cooper.

S · « **Reply #423 on:** August 2, 2017, 10:33:26 pm »

Oh yeah, I'm still with you both on your respective complaints. That should go without saying.

I'm enjoying the atmosphere and overall weirdness of this as a self-contained series. As the continuation of Twin Peaks though, it has some glaring weaknesses. Most notably they've got rid of arguably the greatest character in television history. Then there are several other jarring notes, Audrey's new personality being the most recent.

monkeyharris · « **Reply #424 on:** August 5, 2017, 10:12:31 am »

Caught up with the last three episodes over the last couple of days
I'm still thoroughly enjoying it...yes it's slow as..mad as and frustrating as..but you have to accept Lynch just does things differently.
It is some of the most challenging TV I think any of us will ever see

Then just as I'm as puzzled as ever he does that scene at the beginning of 12 explaining pretty much everything..which is as unexpected as anything else that's been in the show so far

Before of course plunging us back into puzzlement with the Audrey Scene

Looking forward to the next one

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #425 on:** August 6, 2017, 06:18:41 pm »

I think this is enjoyable if you just look at it as Lynch wrapping up his career. There are a lot of nods to his previous work and I'm finding it pretty funny in parts. The latest episode had one single scene with Dougie - just him getting hit on the head with a baseball. Lynch obviously knew that people would get frustrated with the lack of character development in Dougie and that scene is poking fun at it. Can see why it would frustrate a lot of viewers though and I'd love to see Cooper return properly. I also loved the final scenes with Audrey and in the Roadhouse. Shows that there is still plenty of melodramatic soap opera stuff going on in the town. It's just happening to characters we don't know.

I can't really argue with any of the complaints from people in here but I'm just grateful a TV channel was willing to let Lynch show us what's in his crazy imagination.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #426 on:** August 9, 2017, 03:45:00 pm »

Episode 12 was the only one that's properly tested my patience so far, but this week's was brilliant. Loved the conga scene, the arm wrestling scene was both menancing and hilarious, and even the Audrey storyline is starting to intrigue me now. And James singing Just You was top, top trolling from Lynch.

Apparently, episode 14 was shown by mistake in Germany on Sunday night and was available online for a couple of hours in the early hours of the morning. I don't think there are any torrents of it out, but you may want to be careful if you go on Reddit or somewhere as some people are discussing it (I've tried to avoid, but the spoilers I've heard are astonishing, it could be another mind-blowing episode. Or it could all be bullshit and be an hour of Dougie having a ball thrown at his head, of course).

disgraced cake · « **Reply #427 on:** August 10, 2017, 11:29:21 am »

Heard a lot of people specifically haven't enjoyed the Audrey scenes, understandable but I have personally. Thought when she was introduced the week before last it was a great scene, might have went on forever but I'm still interested in her character.

Looking forward to the last few episodes now.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #428 on:** August 10, 2017, 12:44:51 pm »

Quote from: disgraced cake on August 10, 2017, 11:29:21 am

Heard a lot of people specifically haven't enjoyed the Audrey scenes, understandable but I have personally. Thought when she was introduced the week before last it was a great scene, might have went on forever but I'm still interested in her character.

Looking forward to the last few episodes now.

At first it just really annoyed me - like, we've been waiting nearly 30 years for this iconic character to reappear, and she suddenly appears yelling at some guy we've never seen before, talking about people we've never met. I found it really disorientating.

But on a second viewing, and this week's scenes as well, it's clear that all is not quite as it seems - I'm not sure whether she's in a coma, or whether the 'husband' is her psycharist, or even whether she's stuck in some kind of version of the Black Lodge.

I'm sure the next few episodes will explain everything really clearly (or not!)

Lastrador · « **Reply #429 on:** August 14, 2017, 05:44:30 am »

Now that's an episode.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #430 on:** August 15, 2017, 09:10:33 pm »

Outstanding. Feels like everything's coming together at last (which is a good job with just 4 episodes left).

Can't believe they had the audacity to get away with the Monica Belluci dream!

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #431 on:** August 15, 2017, 10:39:26 pm »

Quote from: Cracking Left Foot on August 15, 2017, 09:10:33 pm

Outstanding. Feels like everything's coming together at last (which is a good job with just 4 episodes left).

Can't believe they had the audacity to get away with the Monica Belluci dream!

Only Lynch and an episode of Twin Peaks could do that.

The latest answered a lot of questions, but presented a few others, which I think will be used to tie up more stuff in the remaining episodes.

SenorGarcia · « **Reply #432 on:** August 15, 2017, 10:42:14 pm »

The second half of the season has been top notch in my opinion, some fantastic moments in every episode.

That London-town accent though

The Sarah Palmer storyline in particular is fantastic television that could only come from the mind of Lynch/Frost.

disgraced cake · « **Reply #433 on:** August 15, 2017, 10:55:04 pm »

14 was very good and despite the negatives surrounding the return I don't want it to end

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #434 on:** August 16, 2017, 05:47:29 am »

That was incredible!

The Palmers must be the most fucked up family in television history.

S · « **Reply #435 on:** August 16, 2017, 04:07:05 pm »

Yeah, brilliant episode.

All I wanted from this return was a few more classic Peaks/Lynch moments. There have been plenty. My favourite last night was probably the Monica Bellucci scene.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #436 on:** August 16, 2017, 06:58:15 pm »

Quote from: SenorGarcia on August 15, 2017, 10:42:14 pm

The second half of the season has been top notch in my opinion, some fantastic moments in every episode.

That London-town accent though

The Sarah Palmer storyline in particular is fantastic television that could only come from the mind of Lynch/Frost.

I think that accent was deliberate, though. So over the top, and the story he was telling made it all the more bizarre and hilarious. A magic rubber glove, like Thor's hammer, all the way from London to Twin Peaks. Madness.

Cracking Left Foot · « **Reply #437 on:** August 16, 2017, 08:10:51 pm »

Quote from: Macphisto80 on August 16, 2017, 06:58:15 pm

I think that accent was deliberate, though. So over the top, and the story he was telling made it all the more bizarre and hilarious. A magic rubber glove, like Thor's hammer, all the way from London to Twin Peaks. Madness.

Interesting back story about Jake Wardle, who played Freddie, James' English colleague. I thought it was such an OTT accent, that the guy must have been American.

Turned out he's from the UK, and this is his first ever role. He's done YouTube videos in the past, one of which shows him doing loads of accents. Lynch saw this, and immediately got in touch with him and offered him the part.

http://www.thewrap.com/twin-peaks-jake-wardle/

Genuinely love the idea of David Lynch sitting there watching loads of YouTube stars in order to find more cast members.

DrTobiasFunke · « **Reply #438 on:** August 19, 2017, 12:00:56 am »

Still thinking about the latest episode. There are other shows that are more entertaining at the time of watching but I've never seen any that stay with you so long after watching.

I think I'll want to research from the start of the original series (again) as soon as it's over. Starting to feel like it might be my only chance to see the real Dale Cooper again...

monkeyharris · « **Reply #439 on:** August 19, 2017, 01:25:05 pm »

Quote from: Cracking Left Foot on August 16, 2017, 08:10:51 pm

Genuinely love the idea of David Lynch sitting there watching loads of YouTube stars in order to find more cast members.

Wait until you see the role he's got Zoella in next weeks episode

Although you wouldn't put that past Lynch