Topic: Luis Suarez

[I've been a good boy]

Klopp would not have tolerated his biting.

Nor his antics when Arsenal came knocking. As for on the pitch, he was already world class and banging them in for fun so Klopp wouldn't have improved him that much imo

[tubby]

As if Klopp wouldn't have kept Suarez as long as possible.

[DangerScouse]

As if Klopp wouldn't have kept Suarez as long as possible.

precisely

[MBL?]

That is your opinion but it doesn't at all.

Besides the treble season in 15/16, he bettered Messi. Suarez with 40 league goals, Messi with 26. 8 CL goals for Suarez and 6 for Messi. He eclipsed him in one of Barca's greatest ever seasons.

16/17 - Suarez with 29/13 in goals and assists. Messi with 37/9. So 42 vs 46 in goal contributions. Pretty much matched him that season.

I didn’t know those numbers and they are amazing but it doesn’t change the fact that it is looked at as messi’s team in the grand scheme of things. On any other team in the world outside them and Real Madrid he would have been by far the best player and that goes for Bayern and whatever teams ibrahimovic was playing for.

[El Lobo]

Klopp would not have tolerated his biting.

Yeah he would

[RyanBabel19]

Isn't Klopp huge on character and personality. the flirting with Arsenal and the biting seem like they would have gone down like a lead balloon, Sakho was bombed out for a hell of a lot less.

[jillcwhomever]

Isn't Klopp huge on character and personality. the flirting with Arsenal and the biting seem like they would have gone down like a lead balloon, Sakho was bombed out for a hell of a lot less.

Yes, you only have to see how he dealt with Coutinho when he was causing disruption.

[alonsoisared]

Isn't Klopp huge on character and personality. the flirting with Arsenal and the biting seem like they would have gone down like a lead balloon, Sakho was bombed out for a hell of a lot less.

He probably wouldn't have needed to flirt with Arsenal if we had Klopp tbf. When he wanted to go to Arsenal we'd had a fairly promising season under Rodgers but we hadn't finished above sixth place since 2009 and still looked miles off the top teams. At that point we were clearly an in-between for a lot of players who saw us as a stop off before heading to a club who could compete for major honours. Under Klopp we finished in the top four in his first season and were clearly on the ascendency pretty much immediately with those cup runs in the first season.

Suarez was an absolute animal of a player. Klopp would've loved him.

[RyanBabel19]

Cant be bothered to go into the further details of how we would have done if Klopp was manager, you could argue he might not have done half the shit he did if Klopp was managing us to be honest. I was talking about the incidents alone and Klopps player types as a manager

As a player Klopp would love Suarez ability but i’m not so sure he would love his antics

[Spanish Al]

As said above, his antics may not have been as bad had Klopp been here simply by us winning things and Luis being happy. Not sure what excuse I’d have for the biting incidents though I’m sure Klopp would have made an exception to a player that would have been the best he’d ever coached and tailor made to lead the line for him.

What a player he was and a rare case of a forward leaving us and going on to bigger and better things, which his talents undeniably deserved.

[El Lobo]

Isn't Klopp huge on character and personality. the flirting with Arsenal and the biting seem like they would have gone down like a lead balloon, Sakho was bombed out for a hell of a lot less.

Sakho wasn’t one of the best players of the last thirty years

[RyanBabel19]

Sakho wasn’t one of the best players of the last thirty years

Could be wrong but I really dont see Klopp having the type of character that puts talent above the shit Suarez was doing.

He bit someone ffs

[amir87]

Could be wrong but I really dont see Klopp having the type of character that puts talent above the shit Suarez was doing.

He bit someone ffs

I know people keep going on about the 'bite' but I thought it was more of a coming together of teeth and flesh.

I'm sure Jurgen is sensible enough to appreciate Suarez's unbelievable talent and would have simply just referred him to a reputable orthodontist.

[El Lobo]

Could be wrong but I really dont see Klopp having the type of character that puts talent above the shit Suarez was doing.

He bit someone ffs

Hate to be that guy but.....Kenny Dalglish was and I'd say he's maybe got the greatest character of anyone who has ever been associated with the club.

People always talk Sakho, but Sakho was essentially a bit of a clown who I dare say was earmarked to be got rid of pretty swiftly anyway. It was a pretty easy 'win'. Likewise Balotelli. If we'd signed Van Dijk and then in 2019 he'd done what Sakho did, I'm gonna take a wild guess that he wouldn't be bombed out in the same way.

[disgraced cake]

If Suarez had got banned for biting someone during Klopp's time here he'd have pulled out the old line about waiting for him like a good wife waits for her husband while he's locked up. And rightfully so too, IMO. He's no doubt one of the most gifted players we've ever had and it's a shame he only spent a few years here.

[rob1966]

As said above, his antics may not have been as bad had Klopp been here simply by us winning things and Luis being happy. Not sure what excuse I’d have for the biting incidents though I’m sure Klopp would have made an exception to a player that would have been the best he’d ever coached and tailor made to lead the line for him.

What a player he was and a rare case of a forward leaving us and going on to bigger and better things, which his talents undeniably deserved.

As far as I'm concerned, Suarez only bit people when he wanted a transfer, once he was happy at Barca, the biting stopped. Even under Klopp, I believe he'd have got off, his wife's parents lived in Barcelona, having moved there when Suarez was 16 I think it was and they (the parents) wanted the family to move to Spain to be together.

I remember Mooro on OnTheKop saying when he signed "enjoy him while you can, he'll be off to Spain in 3 years"

[Coolie High]

Suarez was a an unsavoury character similar to the likes of Diouf, he just happened to be one of the best footballers of his generation, I have little doubt Klopp would tolerate him, great footballers tend to get away with a lot, Keane Terry Suarez etc.

[Indomitable_Carp]

I wouldn't put hm in the same bracket as Diouf at all. Diouf seems like an unsavoury character both on and off the pitch.

Suarez is chill as you like off the pitch. Doesn't seem like a bad person at all. Pure family man. He just happens to be a complete loon when kicking a football about (seems to be a bit of a Uruguayan trait!).
 

[El Lobo]

He knows you wouldn't

[Red Beret]

Suarez was a an unsavoury character similar to the likes of Diouf, he just happened to be one of the best footballers of his generation, I have little doubt Klopp would tolerate him, great footballers tend to get away with a lot, Keane Terry Suarez etc.

Suarez is 100 times the man and 1000 times the player Diouf was. All Diouf is remembered for is spitting.

[Coolie High]

I wouldn't put hm in the same bracket as Diouf at all. Diouf seems like an unsavoury character both on and off the pitch.

Suarez is chill as you like off the pitch. Doesn't seem like a bad person at all. Pure family man. He just happens to be a complete loon when kicking a football about (seems to be a bit of a Uruguayan trait!).

You’re right he’s more like Keane, Diouf doesn’t have a reedeming quality.

[AcesHigh]

What's the deal with our Lucas? Is he still playing for them?

the diagnosis was "cardiac akinesia". He was required to take medicaments for 3 months before a second round of exams to check if he can return.

Suarez scored again yesterday. 5 goals in 3 matches.

Grêmio fans are in heaven, but at the same time, the more grounded ones know this is the state league and the level will go much higher if Grêmio arrives in later stages of the Brazil Cup where it will probably face the likes of Palmeiras and/or Flamengo, and the Brazilian League.

But then, this is also a team absolutely not ready, as there were 11 hirings plus a few youngsters brought to the professional side. Thus it will need more time to be an oiled machine providing Suarez all the balls he needs to score against the bettter clubs.



Now the interesting thing is that he scored yesterday against Brasil de Pelotas, a club from a city 130 km from the Uruguayan border.

But most importantly, in 2004, Brasil de Pelotas was commemorating it's centennary (it was founded in 1904). It invited Nacional, from Uruguay for a celebration match.

Brasil Pelotas won 3-1 over Nacional-Uru


Guess WHO scored the Nacional goal???


A 17 year old youngster... called Luis Suarez!

So yesterday's match was a re-encounter of Suarez with Brasil Pelotas after 19 years.

[classycarra]

Klopp manages and loves a bunch of drinks drivers in our current squad, and signed Kabak despite him having spat on a player months before hand. It's pretty clear he gives people a chance, to his credit, and when you have one of the top players in a generation the tolerance most people will have is bound to increase.

[stoa]

Klopp manages and loves a bunch of drinks drivers in our current squad, and signed Kabak despite him having spat on a player months before hand. It's pretty clear he gives people a chance, to his credit, and when you have one of the top players in a generation the tolerance most people will have is bound to increase.

I would imagine that it would also have made a difference that it happened in the pitch during a game. Klopp himself knows what it can be like and how you can lose the plot, if things are getting heated. Just like when he confronts refs or linos and he looks like an absolute maniac. He said himself that he sometimes doesn't even recognise himself when he watches those incidents afterwards on the telly. So, if he thought that that's what happened with the biting I would imagine Klopp would have kind of accepted it, probably with a stem warning to not let it happen again.

[AndyMuller]

Klopp manages and loves a bunch of drinks drivers in our current squad, and signed Kabak despite him having spat on a player months before hand. It's pretty clear he gives people a chance, to his credit, and when you have one of the top players in a generation the tolerance most people will have is bound to increase.

No lad, he got rid of Sakho for arsing around so he definitely would have gotten rid of one of the best players to ever play the game.

[kavah]

He’s still banging them in.

About 4 mins in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOkU12d1WE

[Barneylfc∗]

He’s still banging them in.

About 4 mins in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOkU12d1WE

Reminds me of Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal v Genk

[classycarra]

Reminds me of Oxlade-Chamberlain's goal v Genk

https://youtu.be/WKPG0DiXd_A?t=53
special goal that

quality finish from Luis

[Indomitable_Carp]

Messi and Ronaldo off to Saudi Arabia for the paycheck. Suarez off to Brazil for the love of footy.

[Aldo1988]

https://youtu.be/WKPG0DiXd_A?t=53
special goal that

quality finish from Luis

Genk 1-4 Liverpool: Highlights | Oxlade-Chamberlain scores a worldie!?

[disgraced cake]

He’s still banging them in.

About 4 mins in

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3YOkU12d1WE

Glorious goal. He's just routinely scored sublime goals in great volume. Some of them probably can't be taught but then again I've seen few players work as hard as him to get to that level. Special, special footballer. There's been some outstanding number 9s around his same age group like Benzema and Lewandowski who still play at a better level, but at their very best neither was close to Suarez. It's amazing that there was actually a footballer better than him between the years of about 2012 to 2017 in Messi, and it was great that he spent some of that time with Liverpool.

[I've been a good boy]

Miss the mad bastard, he scored some absolutely insane goals. That 2013 season still lives in my memory, when it was a question of when he would score, not if. And if it wasn't him, it was Sturridge.

[The G in Gerrard]

Miss the mad bastard, he scored some absolutely insane goals. That 2013 season still lives in my memory, when it was a question of when he would score, not if. And if it wasn't him, it was Sturridge.

Yeah one of the most talented players I've ever seen.

[Simplexity]

I expect him to remain the best player I have ever seen play for us for as long as I live. Still cannot believe we somehow had him when we were in the doldrums.

[kavah]

Still banging them in

about 40 seconds in - 1st goal in the Derby

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/ukAwbJx2X4Q" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/ukAwbJx2X4Q</a>

[classycarra]

Ever the big game player

[gerrardisgod]

About to retire, apparently. Seems his knee(s) is/are shot.

Probably the most fun individual player I’ll ever see.

[classycarra]

About to retire, apparently. Seems his knee(s) is/are shot.

Probably the most fun individual player I’ll ever see.

Yep, doubt I'll ever see a player like that in the flesh again.

Sad news if forced to retire - presumably it's the same injury that was troubling him before the world cup (where he managed to knock Hodgson's england out with just one knee)

[Red Beret]

Retirement for a player of his calibre must feel like a death sentence. It's going to be hard for him to walk away (especially with dodgy knees).

[Terry de Niro]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/NMQE9PftGIg&amp;t=1s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/NMQE9PftGIg&amp;t=1s</a>