Topic: PL: Fulham 2 v Liverpool 2 Mitrovich 33' 72' (p) Darwin 64' Salah 81'

[redk84]

They were just more up for it...strangely

Elliott and Darwin were big positives.

Not much else to shout about in that game but long way to go.
As always we just gotta get ourselves going and find form.

I feel this season more than any we gotta be putting more points than City on the board early as they have made some big changes to their squad...

[disgraced cake]

If I'm not mistaken we've played an away game against Marco Silva five times and not won a single one of them. Against five really shit line ups too. Baffling.

[Nick110581]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/jurgen-klopp-thiago-alcantara-injury-and-midfield-options

[Garnier]

We didn't deserve more than a point at all so we'll leave it at that. Unfortunate about the Thiago injury as well.

Move on (thumbs up)

[Hedley Lamarr]

Not sure the players can be blamed for this game. We got it wrong with our starting lineup

Nonsense.  VVD and Matip were poor, they start nearly every game.  Both fullbacks were under par, they start every game.  Fabinho got dragged off, he starts every game.

Most of them just weren't at it, the lineup was arguably our strongest available barring perhaps Nunez for Firmino. Attitude and application, Klopp will give them a kick up the arse and it'll get sorted and I think Nunez should of came on at half-time, but it's on the players.

It doesn't happen often, but you need to call it out when it happens.

[Dave McCoy]

Just think the lack of commitment in that first 50 minutes was inexcusable. We’ll play better and still drop points, that’s just the nature of the sport. But to be outworked and out fought like that just can’t happen. Really, really disappointing.

[jillcwhomever]

https://www.liverpoolfc.com/news/jurgen-klopp-thiago-alcantara-injury-and-midfield-options

I pretty much agree with those comments overall, I know people want to buy someone else but unless you can get someone else who fits the system it can end up a risk and something which hinders rather than helps.

[Notorious IT]

Nunez looked decent.

Not a good performance.
Hopefully gives them a kick up the arse that it's not good enough, and we don't see dross like it again for a while. Glad we never lost.

[Nick110581]

I pretty much agree with those comments overall, I know people want to buy someone else but unless you can get someone else who fits the system it can end up a risk and something which hinders rather than helps.

Think we needed a midfielder all summer.

Relying on injury prone 30 plus year old in a condensed season was a risk.

[JackWard33]

If I'm not mistaken we've played an away game against Marco Silva five times and not won a single one of them. Against five really shit line ups too. Baffling.

Interesting - could be timing of fixtures / coincidence … but the one thing he does do as a manager is press high and commit people up the pitch.. never our favourite thing to play against

[jillcwhomever]

Think we needed a midfielder all summer.

Relying on injury prone 30 plus year old in a condensed season was a risk.

But it has to be the right player and if they are not available you have to proceed carefully.

[lamonti]

Not sure the players can be blamed for this game. We got it wrong with our starting lineup

All to do with attitude today, not selection.

[rocco]

Jürgen Klopp:

“The best thing about the game is the result. A really bad game. How can that happen? The attitude was not right in the beginning. We tried to react after 15 minutes.


Probably I’m wrong but a lot of times  it feels we don’t come out all pumped up and go straight at it as I think it would suit the players we have .

Or we don’t need to ?

[Clayton Bigsby]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

[ac]

Klopp saying it as it is makes me feel better actually. You have the feeling he is going he isn't going to be on them in training.

[rocco]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

No , plenty of positives

Just imo need to sort out the complacency we see at times , especially first Half of games

[Nick110581]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

Some people on here believe it has.

City haven’t played.

[lamonti]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

Every time we drop a point people are going to be upset because we've lost two leagues with huge points totals by a single point. But we aren't going to get 114 points, or even 112 points this season. Far more annoyed by the performance than the result today.

[Hedley Lamarr]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

I'm more disappointed with the performance than the result, I expected a draw.  Newly promoted side, at home, with a brute of a forward.  The result in isolation isn't too bad and it certainly doesn't dent our chances, especially as City are at West Ham. We certainly have work to do though.

[Schmarn]

I pretty much agree with those comments overall, I know people want to buy someone else but unless you can get someone else who fits the system it can end up a risk and something which hinders rather than helps.

Agreed though we also have to acknowledge that some of our midfielders are injury prone. Ox, Keita, Jones and Thiago in particular albeit Naby is meant to just be ill. Combined with Millie and Hendo getting older, its an area we’ll need to address next summer. Definitely don’t want a panic buy.

[1892tillforever]

We need to win 75% of games to challenge the cheats. So if we win our next 3 we're all square 😉

[Beninger]

Nothing good about any part of that

[4pool]

Man City lost their first League match last season. That didn't stop them from winning the League.

We played like we were in a hurry instead playing fast.

In a hurry, is not controlling the ball or your passes. We did that much too often.

When we play fast and in control is when we have greater joy.

[TipTopKop]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

I don't think anyone truly thinks that. However, as others have mentioned the way City spend it leaves very little room for slip ups and with the World Cup this year it makes the fixtures come at you in a different way as well.

But to be fair all teams will slip up from time to time and have a bad day, but yeah, when you're facing a state sponsored team of androids then it leaves little room. Unfortunately, we've lost out in seasons past due to such slip ups and fine margins.

Still, not the end of the world, only 1st day of the season.

[jillcwhomever]

Every time we drop a point people are going to be upset because we've lost two leagues with huge points totals by a single point. But we aren't going to get 114 points, or even 112 points this season. Far more annoyed by the performance than the result today.

But that depends on whether its a typical season or not, it may be different this year due to the enforced break and by the fact that both us and City have to adapt slightly. I don't think either of us will find it straight forward. There will be some strange results one way and another.

[rocco]

I'm more disappointed with the performance than the result, I expected a draw.  Newly promoted side, at home, with a brute of a forward.  The result in isolation isn't too bad and it certainly doesn't dent our chances, especially as City are at West Ham. We certainly have work to do though.

Personally thought we have evolved from todays type of result and first half performance

[Hedley Lamarr]

Nothing good about any part of that

Nunez looking a handful ?  Elliott coming on and changing the midfield ?  Disappointing day, but there were some good signs.

[ac]

Do people actually believe this dents our title chances or is it just for attention I mean come on. First game of the season. Nunez already off the mark, Salah being Salah. Excited for what lies ahead

Eh? We only came into the game because Fulham tired and we had better subs then them. To say today was anything other than worrying is rubbish

[rocco]

Nothing good about any part of that

Nunez and Elliott were a very positive part

[Nick110581]

Not lost a league game in 2022.

Reckon the servers crash if we do

[jillcwhomever]

Agreed though we also have to acknowledge that some of our midfielders are injury prone. Ox, Keita, Jones and Thiago in particular albeit Naby is meant to just be ill. Combined with Millie and Hendo getting older, its an area we’ll need to address next summer. Definitely don’t want a panic buy.

We will definitely buy someone next season at least. But Klopp does not panic buy and knowing him will just as likely manage to come up with other option, as he tends to do.

[Beninger]

Nunez looking a handful ?  Elliott coming on and changing the midfield ?  Disappointing day, but there were some good signs.

As a team, it was crap. That’s all that matters.

[Hedley Lamarr]

As a team, it was crap. That’s all that matters.

You said there was nothing good about it. 

[Nick110581]

We will definitely buy someone next season at least. But Klopp does not panic buy and knowing him will just as likely manage to come up with other option, as he tends to do.

He may well have too if the injuries keep piling up.

We may need two midfielders next season so made sense to buy one now and bed them in.

[Beninger]

You said there was nothing good about it. 

I stand by it

[Nick110581]

I stand by it

But Nunez was clearly a positive

[jillcwhomever]

He may well have too if the injuries keep piling up.

We may need two midfielders next season so made sense to buy one now and bed them in.

He will adapt rather than buy someone who doesn't fit our system.

[Hedley Lamarr]

I stand by it

You're wrong. Simple as that.

[decosabute]

Some clear hyperbole in here, and will be in the usual places, not least on cesspits like Twitter and the usual dickhead pundits and journalism. Such is modern day football.

There was an element of complacency and arrogance in our play. First game of the season. Better to get a slap in the face now and wise up early. Oh, and watch Fulham bend over and lube themselves up against City when they play them. They won't put a shift in like that against anyone else this season. Put money on it.

Agree with all this. Fulham were very good, especially in the first half, but they probably won't play as well as that again all season. I'd also be amazed if we put in a worse half than our first 45 minutes the rest of the season. 'Complacent' absolutely sums up that first half shitshow. We played like we were amazed that Fulham were giving us a game.

[nayia2002]

Absolutely terrible performance in midfield today doesn't bode well
for rest of season!(especially the injury records hendo, fab,keita,thiago have!)
Where's Gini when you need him!