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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #280 on: August 8, 2017, 10:05:10 pm »
If we didn't manage to extend the length of the pitch after all the works it'd be disappointing.

The width is in line with the regulations but length wise we're 4 meters short. If we could at least decrease that gap in half it'd make a difference as every inch counts when almost all the teams come to Anfield to defend in numbers.

If teams are going to sit back and have 9 mine within 30 yards of the goal, it doesn't make a difference how long the pitch is. You could make the pitch a mile long, they'll still be camped 30 yards from goal.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #281 on: August 8, 2017, 10:06:54 pm »
1 meter each side could be done no?

Would still leave us 2 meters short according to your post, but 1 meter leaves you dangerously close to the advertising boards and would also screw up sight lines from the back of the stands.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #282 on: August 8, 2017, 10:10:18 pm »
If teams are going to sit back and have 9 mine within 30 yards of the goal, it doesn't make a difference how long the pitch is. You could make the pitch a mile long, they'll still be camped 30 yards from goal.
It's 2017 , we shouldn't have such a short pitch. If it was me I'd shave off first two rows of Annie rd and Kop and what we lose in numbers would be regained by rebuilding ARE. Money is clearly there as we're bidding 70m for players now.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #283 on: August 8, 2017, 11:01:41 pm »
Check the stadium thread.

Thanks Tepid, and other responders, a new track should make a big difference to us this year, I can't seem to find that thread you referenced though? Help me out?
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #284 on: August 8, 2017, 11:02:49 pm »
Thanks Tepid, and other responders, a new track should make a big difference to us this year, I can't seem to find that thread you referenced though? Help me out?

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #285 on: August 8, 2017, 11:03:50 pm »
It's 2017 , we shouldn't have such a short pitch. If it was me I'd shave off first two rows of Annie rd and Kop and what we lose in numbers would be regained by rebuilding ARE. Money is clearly there as we're bidding 70m for players now.

It's still not going to make a difference to teams like United coming to Anfield and parking the bus. A wider pitch may help with that, a longer one wouldn't.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #287 on: August 8, 2017, 11:22:16 pm »
It's still not going to make a difference to teams like United coming to Anfield and parking the bus. A wider pitch may help with that, a longer one wouldn't.
Fact is away teams have less space to defend at Anfield compared to Emirates, Ettihad, OT etc. And the less space you have to defend the easier it is. We can argue till infinity how much we would gain if we expanded it but in modern football smallest of details make huge difference because in modern game space is becoming a genuine luxury.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #288 on: August 9, 2017, 08:41:25 am »
It's not just about losing seats from the front of the Kop/Anny to make it longer, as we'd have major viewing issues from the back of those stands to the far goal line if the pitch was lengthened.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #289 on: August 9, 2017, 10:06:08 am »
I wonder if Chelsea's pitch is similar to ours? It always looks quite small to me.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #290 on: August 9, 2017, 10:07:37 am »
It's still not going to make a difference to teams like United coming to Anfield and parking the bus. A wider pitch may help with that, a longer one wouldn't.
Yeah I agree, much like other things in life, length isn't important, it's the girth.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #291 on: August 9, 2017, 10:44:11 am »
I wonder if Chelsea's pitch is similar to ours? It always looks quite small to me.

It's bigger.

I know I couldn't believe it either.

Our pitch is too small imo. But then again. When we had Suarez we weren't complaining about breaking teams down due to a slightly small pitch.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #292 on: August 9, 2017, 12:44:28 pm »
It's bigger.

I know I couldn't believe it either.

Our pitch is too small imo. But then again. When we had Suarez we weren't complaining about breaking teams down due to a slightly small pitch.

Strange that. Probably got to do with camera angle
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #293 on: August 9, 2017, 01:51:39 pm »
Yeah I agree, much like other things in life, length isn't important, it's the girth.


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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #295 on: August 9, 2017, 09:10:22 pm »
It's still not going to make a difference to teams like United coming to Anfield and parking the bus. A wider pitch may help with that, a longer one wouldn't.

I'm with you think we need to widen for the way we are transforming... more space to drag teams apart

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #296 on: December 4, 2017, 02:29:21 pm »
Anfield will host the 2nd match Rugby League Test Series between England and New Zealand.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #297 on: December 4, 2017, 02:33:41 pm »
Well the new pitch seems to holding up really well so far this season. Looks like all the new technology works well

A bit disconcerting seeing guys climbing under the pitch packing away the spare warm up goal posts :P

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #298 on: December 4, 2017, 02:39:27 pm »
It's 2017 , we shouldn't have such a short pitch. If it was me I'd shave off first two rows of Annie rd and Kop and what we lose in numbers would be regained by rebuilding ARE. Money is clearly there as we're bidding 70m for players now.

It doesn't work like that. You would have to re-profile the Kop and Anny Road or have the front rows a metre in the air and people at the back unable to see the goal line.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #299 on: December 4, 2017, 03:34:44 pm »
It's 2017 , we shouldn't have such a short pitch. If it was me I'd shave off first two rows of Annie rd and Kop and what we lose in numbers would be regained by rebuilding ARE. Money is clearly there as we're bidding 70m for players now.

It's only 6 yards shorter than the average (which is about 116 yds long), though. So 3 yards at each end. It's definitely short, but it's not ridiculously short.
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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #300 on: December 4, 2017, 04:23:25 pm »
It's only 6 yards shorter than the average (which is about 116 yds long), though. So 3 yards at each end. It's definitely short, but it's not ridiculously short.
It's not ridiculously short but if we could even just half that shortage it'd make a difference as all the teams are ridiculously defensive at Anfield these days.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #301 on: December 4, 2017, 04:27:08 pm »
It's not ridiculously short but if we could even just half that shortage it'd make a difference as all the teams are ridiculously defensive at Anfield these days.

What are you basing your statement that a pitch 3 yrds longer (so 1.5 yards each end), would make a difference?

I mean is there anything to back up forming such an opinion?

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« Reply #302 on: December 4, 2017, 04:31:43 pm »
I mean is there anything to back up forming such an opinion?
Just my opinion from watching football - for example when away teams move up a bit to try to pick up the second ball on a shorter pitch it's gonna take them that precious second less to get back in shape and block those vital spaces between the lines, in today's football spaces are constantly getting harder to find.

Also another thing, Pocchettino once was complaining about WHL pitch being smaller (and yes I know their home record there was great), so it's also elite coaches who recognize it's importance.

To summarize it's not of huge importance but in today's football details count.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #303 on: December 4, 2017, 04:49:41 pm »
Just my opinion from watching football - for example when away teams move up a bit to try to pick up the second ball on a shorter pitch it's gonna take them that precious second less to get back in shape and block those vital spaces between the lines, in today's football spaces are constantly getting harder to find.

Also another thing, Pocchettino once was complaining about WHL pitch being smaller (and yes I know their home record there was great), so it's also elite coaches who recognize it's importance.

To summarize it's not of huge importance but in today's football details count.

True, but I'd think that width makes much more difference than length in terms of attacking teams parking the bus.

Overall Anfield is the fifth smallest pitch by overall surface, and at the 68 metres of width is exactly the same as the vast majority of PL pitches (Brighton and Huddersfield at 69 are the only wider ones).

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #304 on: December 4, 2017, 10:17:46 pm »
It's not ridiculously short but if we could even just half that shortage it'd make a difference as all the teams are ridiculously defensive at Anfield these days.

Making it wider would actually be more helpful. We're a pressing team, so a shorter pitch is good for recovery. But a wider pitch would force the other team to spread out more and create gaps that we could exploit.
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« Reply #305 on: December 4, 2017, 10:30:05 pm »
Making it wider would actually be more helpful. We're a pressing team, so a shorter pitch is good for recovery. But a wider pitch would force the other team to spread out more and create gaps that we could exploit.
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« Reply #306 on: December 6, 2017, 07:25:03 am »
It's not ridiculously short but if we could even just half that shortage it'd make a difference as all the teams are ridiculously defensive at Anfield these days.

Would it really? It might make a difference for attacking teams but if the opposing team isn't venturing into our half does it matter if the space they don't use is 5 metres shorter?
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« Reply #307 on: December 6, 2017, 10:43:52 am »
Would it really? It might make a difference for attacking teams but if the opposing team isn't venturing into our half does it matter if the space they don't use is 5 metres shorter?
They always do at some point as all their game plans are the same - kick it long to a target man and push the midfield line up a bit to pick up the second ball if possible. Once they lose it they need a second or two less to get compact vertically compared to Ettihad, Emirates etc.

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Re: Anfield Pitch
« Reply #308 on: June 23, 2018, 06:13:27 pm »
Article from The Liverpool Echo, Thursday 21st June 2018.


Liverpool have detailed their next batch of Anfield improvements.
Including further work on the pitch and new broadcasting positions for television.

The Stadium's maintenance programme for the 2018/19 campaign has begun, which includes a 'clean out' of the current pitch - installed last summer - to ensure Jurgen Klopp's side have a pristine playing surface at home next season.

The grass used to grow Anfield's hallowed turf is a blend of hard wearing ryegrass cultivars. The cultivars selected have been specifically bred to provide a strong resilient surface that can tolerate the high speed and impact of playing football. Last year's new pitch included 80 tonnes of zeolite, a form of volcanic ash. This holds on to valuable nutrients and keeps the lush verdant green all season.

Over 120 tonnes of sand will be worked into the surface to ensure 'optimum drainage', while the new grass will be sown ready and nurtured for the start of the the new season.

As well as the pitch improvements, three new TV camera positions will be installed in the Main Stand to offer a wider range of locations for broadcast companies to film.


Other improvements outside of the stadium include a painted Kop roof, work on the 'Anfield Forever' project along 96 Avenue, and the addition of 'Sir' on the signage which adorns the Kenny Dalglish Stand.

Liverpool's new Kop fan bar has also started it's refurbishment programme, with the old retail store becoming a bar which will feature live music and large screen TVs for over 600 fans to enjoy each match day.

Work on the Kop fan bar is expected to be completed in time for the new season.

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« Reply #309 on: June 23, 2018, 09:47:32 pm »
Zeolite structures are fascinating and have huge numbers of uses....

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« Reply #310 on: June 23, 2018, 10:03:00 pm »
Zeolite structures are fascinating and have huge numbers of uses....

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Don't tease us like that, what are some of the uses?

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« Reply #311 on: June 23, 2018, 10:29:06 pm »
Don't tease us like that, what are some of the uses?
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« Reply #312 on: June 24, 2018, 08:34:29 am »
Molecular sieves to sort branched and none branched isomers resulting from fractional distillation/cracking...

Of course we all knew that - tell us something we don’t know.
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« Reply #313 on: June 24, 2018, 09:08:38 am »
Why do have a mental image of Del Boy selling Liverpool ryegrass cultivars

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« Reply #314 on: June 24, 2018, 09:11:06 am »
Of course we all knew that - tell us something we don’t know.
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The non branched ones auto ignite more easily so have a lower octane rating and case knocking.  The branched ones less so.

The surface of the zeolite can also be used as a catalyst to promote transformation from straight to branched molecules.
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« Reply #315 on: June 24, 2018, 09:23:47 am »
I’m wondering why it’s being replaced after it was completed last season with a ‘state of the art’ Desso pitch? They’ve ripped it all up and doing it again?

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« Reply #316 on: June 24, 2018, 09:42:56 am »
I’m wondering why it’s being replaced after it was completed last season with a ‘state of the art’ Desso pitch? They’ve ripped it all up and doing it again?
No, they’ve reseeded and seem to have changed the composition of what the put in it as well as grassss to make it quicker..
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« Reply #317 on: June 24, 2018, 01:35:58 pm »
I’m wondering why it’s being replaced after it was completed last season with a ‘state of the art’ Desso pitch? They’ve ripped it all up and doing it again?

It gets redone every summer (reseeded).

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« Reply #318 on: June 24, 2018, 02:29:51 pm »
It gets redone every summer (reseeded).
I knew it was reseeded but with all the sand I wondering how that effected the artificial weave they put in the pitch or is that replaced every year also? It’s just they were saying last year our Desso pitch was way beyond its life expectancy.

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« Reply #319 on: June 24, 2018, 02:35:17 pm »
I knew it was reseeded but with all the sand I wondering how that effected the artificial weave they put in the pitch or is that replaced every year also? It’s just they were saying last year our Desso pitch was way beyond its life expectancy.

The Desso stuff was redone last year so it's brand new. They remove the grass aspect and a lot of the top soil/sand mix every summer and then relay that stuff and reseed.