Author Topic: Chewer of Toffees, scourge of Barça, Peeler of Spuds, Arse kicker, Wolves slayer (Read 663326 times)

VVM · « **Reply #4560 on:** March 22, 2021, 11:35:14 am »

I think he grew on all of us after the winner against Everton and what he did in the Champions league semi and final. I think Klopp began to favor him a lot since even though he was definitely lacking in ability compared to the rest of the attackers, you knew what you were getting. An average attackers who would follow your instructions, work hard, track back and could finish relatively ok.

I think this form, or reliability maybe, carried over into the 2019-20 season and he was generally ok for the start of last season but then essentially fell off a cliff since the pandemic.

He's looked completely lost this season though, absolutely zero chemistry with any of the rest of the players and no clue what he's even supposed to be doing in the team. Tough to argue for his finishing ability either after the miss against Burnley.

For a while now it feels like the only argument you'd have left for him is his height which I don't think he ever puts to good use. Doesn't seem useful in defending set pieces and when the balls are played long to him he seems to consistently misjudge where the ball will land and never get to it.

Perhaps an arguments could be made that he particularly feeds off the energy of a crowd but I fear by the time we are back in the ground it will be too little too late. Still, I will always be grateful for what he helped this club achieve, seems like a genuinely nice bloke and hope he can get himself a good move in the summer.

newterp · « **Reply #4561 on:** March 22, 2021, 04:11:47 pm »

There are some parallels to Ryan Babel here I think.

Divock has, of course, reached greater heights in terms of trophies and more memorable goals...but they do seem similar. Some great attributes and skills, but never put it all together.

aw1991 · « **Reply #4562 on:** March 22, 2021, 04:19:53 pm »

Quote from: MD1990 on March 21, 2021, 10:40:52 pm

But at Lille,Wolfsburg & Liverpool he has been poor. He just isnt very good.

Harsh, he scored 14 goals for them before he was 20. Seemed like a proper talent back then.

Quote from: MD1990 on March 21, 2021, 10:40:52 pm

If we were smart we would have sold him after the CL final.

His contract was up. We renewed it for two reasons I believe: 1. Reward for his contribution in the 18/19 campaign and 2. To get better offers in the following summer, which was probably derailed due to the pandemic.

Fromola · « **Reply #4563 on:** March 22, 2021, 05:14:25 pm »

Quote from: newterp on March 22, 2021, 04:11:47 pm

There are some parallels to Ryan Babel here I think.

Divock has, of course, reached greater heights in terms of trophies and more memorable goals...but they do seem similar. Some great attributes and skills, but never put it all together.

Yeah, players with talent who were highly rated as youngsters but have never been able to consistently apply it.

The way I tend to put it is if you were a scout looking at signing Origi, what qualities would you be going back to the board or the manager and saying he ticks x, y and z boxes? Ings for example you could say he's a natural goalscorer, he works hard off the ball and has good movement. That's what a manager would want in a forward. Origi's career goal return is not good for a forward (even when he started more at Lille and Wolfsburg) and he's not someone you'd say is a workhorse, or got great pace and movement. He's enigmatic.

jepovic · « **Reply #4564 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:44:40 am »

Quote from: newterp on March 22, 2021, 04:11:47 pm

There are some parallels to Ryan Babel here I think.

Divock has, of course, reached greater heights in terms of trophies and more memorable goals...but they do seem similar. Some great attributes and skills, but never put it all together.

Liverpool is just a bit too high a level I think. In a worse team with less possession, these players can focus on scoring. In Liverpool, you have to be able to handle the quick passing game as well. Put Origi in a slightly worse team, so he can start every week, and I think he would do fine. I think Ings would have struggled here as well. Being a sub for a top side is difficult.

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #4565 on:** March 23, 2021, 07:55:43 am »

One of my fondest memories of Origi is his display in both legs against dortmund. Sounds weird considering his barca goal and spurs in the final but honestly I thought he was playing so well back then and we were really on to something in terms of what he could do on a more regular basis.

Coolie High · « **Reply #4566 on:** March 23, 2021, 01:16:26 pm »

Quote from: newterp on March 22, 2021, 04:11:47 pm

There are some parallels to Ryan Babel here I think.

Divock has, of course, reached greater heights in terms of trophies and more memorable goals...but they do seem similar. Some great attributes and skills, but never put it all together.

Babel was great sometimes.

tubby · « **Reply #4567 on:** March 23, 2021, 01:19:52 pm »

Quote from: Red Berry on March 21, 2021, 06:46:40 pm

He managed to reinvent himself after Fewms Mori effectively destroyed the incredible player he was turning into

I dunno, I'm not convinced at all that he was developing into a top quality player. He's always been an average forward, but back then we were playing differently and he was more suited to the tactics. As the team has moved forward, he's stood still.

jepovic · « **Reply #4568 on:** March 23, 2021, 04:00:40 pm »

I don't think there is a number for "highest fraction crucial goals", but Origi would be high on such a list. For being such an average player, he has had an enormous impact. He's the polar opposite of the guys that score the 4-0 tap-in against Southampton or so. Many weird goals too.

Fromola · « **Reply #4569 on:** March 23, 2021, 04:31:37 pm »

Quote from: tubby pls. on March 23, 2021, 01:19:52 pm

I dunno, I'm not convinced at all that he was developing into a top quality player. He's always been an average forward, but back then we were playing differently and he was more suited to the tactics. As the team has moved forward, he's stood still.

He actually scored more goals for us the season after. It's not like he was amazing all that season and then was taken out. He was in a good run of form though. Whether he could have sustained it who knows. The main regret was not having him for that Europa League final in that kind of form because if we had more up front the game would have been won at half time.

Red Beret · « **Reply #4570 on:** March 23, 2021, 06:19:11 pm »

Quote from: tubby pls. on March 23, 2021, 01:19:52 pm

I dunno, I'm not convinced at all that he was developing into a top quality player. He's always been an average forward, but back then we were playing differently and he was more suited to the tactics. As the team has moved forward, he's stood still.

There's no way to quantify this. I think it's a mistake to call his period back then a purple patch because it was ended by a leg break. He wasn't doing fantastic before Klopp arrived, but then you can say that about a lot of other Liverpool players at the time too.

All I can say is that he blossomed in that period and looked on the verge of turning into something special. He was never the same player when he came back. As you say, the team had moved on, and continues to move on, and he hasn't. But we can only speculate as to whether this was inevitable, injury or no injury.

He had some incredible moments in a team that was full of confidence and playing to its maximum potential. In a mentally and physically shattered team like this, he brings very little.

bornandbRED · « **Reply #4571 on:** March 23, 2021, 06:27:12 pm »

Wasn’t he on loan the season before Klopp arrived? Then Rodgers had about 2 months with him before leaving.

I think if Divock got regular football in a decent side he’d score goals.

ToneLa · « **Reply #4572 on:** April 2, 2021, 09:15:17 am »

Take away the cult goals and he's a failure

but take away the cult goals and we wouldn't have number 6

Dim Glas · « **Reply #4573 on:** April 2, 2021, 05:56:23 pm »

Quote from: bornandbRED on March 23, 2021, 06:27:12 pm

Wasn’t he on loan the season before Klopp arrived? Then Rodgers had about 2 months with him before leaving.

I think if Divock got regular football in a decent side he’d score goals.

He stayed at Lille for a year after signing, the infamous ‘voted to the worst team in France’ season

Then he played a few Europa and league cup games for Rodgers before he got sacked.

Origi is just like a multitude of players - streaky and inconsistant. They have hot streaks where they look great, but followed by a spell when you wonder what on earth happened.

I don’t even know if it is a regular football thing with him. At Wolfsburg, he started most games, and he had that one hot streak where he scored a few goals, but other than that was frankly beyond average, verging on poor. He’s just really inconsistent.

mrantarctica · « **Reply #4574 on:** April 3, 2021, 12:42:09 pm »

Unfortunately for Origi he's a player who does quite a few things pretty well but unfortunately does some of the fundamental things in a very average way. His first touch, distribution, decision making and tactical understanding overall isn't great and so as a result he can't really translate some of his obvious physical gifts as well as his really good finishing, into producing consistent high performance. I think his time at LFC is up. For his own sake, he best move to a different league and hopefully try to get into some kind of form and force his way back into the Belgium set up.

gerrardisgod · « **Reply #4575 on:** April 6, 2021, 10:17:07 pm »

Where’s he disappeared to? Have I missed some injury news with him?

thaddeus · « **Reply #4576 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:20:39 am »

Quote from: https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/liverpool-absence-nobody-questioned-could-20363021

Origi has been sidelined with a muscle injury and has no return date on the horizon as of yet.

It's a strange article as it rambles on about Origi not being selected recently as evidence he is leaving in the summer but then drops in towards the end that he's actually injured.

It seems unlikely that he'll be in the squad this evening but I've not seen any training photos so not sure if he's back.

Samie · « **Reply #4577 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:19:30 am »

https://twitter.com/LivUni/status/1402900052515901440

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We're so pleased to announce that @LFC striker Divock Origi is partnering with us @LivUni
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Samie · « **Reply #4578 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:22:59 am »

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #4579 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:28:14 am »

Top man.

MNAA · « **Reply #4580 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:36:14 am »

Quote from: Samie on June 10, 2021, 10:22:59 am

There you go. Take that you haters! With this ... the legendary Divock is telling you he is not going anywhere! 😁

tubby · « **Reply #4581 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:41:05 am »

He's a good man, Divok.

RyanBabel19 · « **Reply #4582 on:** June 10, 2021, 10:49:14 am »

Amazing human being and for all the stick he gets, the guy not once has ever kicked up a fuss or criticised the club. The vital goals he scored will always remain a part of this clubs history