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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #280 on: October 17, 2017, 06:57:34 pm »
Yeah fair enough - I don't often read them to be honest...  just spaff off my own thoughts.

Definitely no reason to be negative. I do think the AoC situation is not great and worthy of comment - maybe our lack of rotation is too... maybe not.
But in terms of this game there's definitely no reason to be negative. We'll have the best players in this football match that's about to commence....
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #281 on: October 17, 2017, 06:57:55 pm »
;D

You must remember that, people wouldn't shut up about it at the time, it was really weird. We played one up front and we had Torres and yet everyone couldn't shut up about Robbie Keane.

AOC is the same, a squad player, they just cost more now. The fact he is one of our most expensive players ever only means fees have gone up massively, not that he is in any way more significant than the rest of the squad.

Probably same with Robertson, Klopp feels there is work to do on the training ground before he gets a run in the team.

I do remember. Can't believe we basically got our money back on him :)

I do think Klopps integration or not of players into the team and the seeming randomness of his rotation or non-rotation are worthy of comment as he does a lot of non-standard stuff..... but probably one for another time

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #282 on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:06 pm »
He's our 2nd biggest signing ever ... we beat Arsenal and Chelsea for his signature... our first team are playing 3 games in 8 days ... it seems mad not to start him tonight.

But more than that I don't really get how he's supposed to integrate here or be a functioning part of the squad without game time

I don't think it'll make a huge difference to the result tonight either way but right now I don't know why we signed him (and I'm posting as someone who was excited about him coming)

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #283 on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:11 pm »
3 nil up at half time, front three come off and AOC, Solanke and Sturridge come on.

Everyone gets game time. Sorted.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #284 on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:32 pm »
He'll have to wait til Mane and Lallana get back for his rest.

That's a way off, he needs to be rested at least once more before the middle of November!

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #285 on: October 17, 2017, 06:59:13 pm »
That's a way off, he needs to be rested at least once before the middle of November!
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #286 on: October 17, 2017, 06:59:45 pm »
Sorry, no I don’t. I read it this morning.
No worries, found it now.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #287 on: October 17, 2017, 07:00:16 pm »
Moreno is rightfully keeping Robertson out of the team and AOC has one decent cameo to his name for us so far against a jaded full back. OK, he done well but we need to trust the manager with his decisions. Milner brings experience, knowhow of Klopp's workings and is a good player to boot. AOC obviously isn't ready either physically or tactically for Klopp to throw him in away from home in the Champions League.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #288 on: October 17, 2017, 07:00:29 pm »
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #289 on: October 17, 2017, 07:01:13 pm »
Think we should've put coutinho in midfield and put Ox in the top three..

If we don't win this we really do need help, this should be a confidence booster

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #290 on: October 17, 2017, 07:01:31 pm »
Oxlade-Chamberlain should be starting this one.  Would have been nice to see Robertson too.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #291 on: October 17, 2017, 07:05:18 pm »
Oxlade-Chamberlain should be starting this one.  Would have been nice to see Robertson too.

Why?
maybe we need his pace later in the game

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #292 on: October 17, 2017, 07:08:10 pm »
Week's been shit (I know it's only Tuesday) so a 5-0 win would do me. Come you on reds  ;D :scarf :champ :wellin

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #293 on: October 17, 2017, 07:10:15 pm »
Why?
maybe we need his pace later in the game
I feel like he did well enough against United to earn a start.  Besides Salah could do with a rest.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #294 on: October 17, 2017, 07:12:00 pm »
Gutted I'm missing this tonight. Moved home a couple of weeks ago and bt were supposed to connect my broadband & tv at the weekend but cocked it up. Mrs' working late so I'm home with the kids. Can't even go round the corner to a mates' place as it's a school night and his kids will be off to bed soon.

In a hump as a result so hope we win tonight to make up for it.

Don't even have enough data on my phone to watch it via the app.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #295 on: October 17, 2017, 07:12:26 pm »
I feel like he did well enough against United to earn a start.  Besides Salah could do with a rest.

Agreed. If mo gets injured we're screwed

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #296 on: October 17, 2017, 07:13:51 pm »
Gutted I'm missing this tonight. Moved home a couple of weeks ago and bt were supposed to connect my broadband & tv at the weekend but cocked it up. Mrs' working late so I'm home with the kids. Can't even go round the corner to a mates' place as it's a school night and his kids will be off to bed soon.

In a hump as a result so hope we win tonight to make up for it.

Don't even have enough data on my phone to watch it via the app.

The obvious thing to do is file for divorce from your Mrs for working late. She has to accept that football comes first and if she isn't prepared to alter her work schedule for a Champions League game then you need to fuck her off.


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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #297 on: October 17, 2017, 07:17:04 pm »
Can't for the life of me understand how Gini Wijnaldum starts essentially every game for us. It's like everything conspires in his favour as well, what with Lallana and now Mané injured. I feel like he will always, always start someway or another unless we actually sell him. It's a Kafka-esque situation in my slightly feverish mind at the moment.

I really want to see more of Oxlade-Chamberlain as well. Why is our club record 24-year-old signing behind Milner in the pecking order?

Sorry for being a miserable bastard. I still expect us to win this easily. Glad to see Karius starting.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #298 on: October 17, 2017, 07:19:38 pm »
The obvious thing to do is file for divorce from your Mrs for working late. She has to accept that football comes first and if she isn't prepared to alter her work schedule for a Champions League game then you need to fuck her off.


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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #299 on: October 17, 2017, 07:23:00 pm »
That pitch looks a bit heavy.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #300 on: October 17, 2017, 07:23:38 pm »
Not happy with the team.

Ox and Robertson must be furious that they aren't getting a look in.

No Henderson, who has been one of our better performers lately.

Who are we looking to answer the craft in CM - Milner!  :-\

Forgetting all the above... 

We should have far too much for them and let's hope we can get three points.

Not even too arsed about the performance, tonight it is about the result!

As we've been performing well but not getting the right results.  I'll take the opposite if needs be.



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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #301 on: October 17, 2017, 07:28:16 pm »
I know BT have to provide pundits for 4 matches, but kinell, we’ve drawn the shortest of short straws with Michael Owen and Jermaine ‘kin Jenas.

Jenas is such a prick. I’m sure TV executives think he’s knowledgeable and articulate. Then they thought the same about Clarke Carlisle.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #302 on: October 17, 2017, 07:31:05 pm »
Really need to get scoring and get winning today. We need to stay calm and composed when the chances come.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #303 on: October 17, 2017, 07:31:36 pm »
Ox situation is slightly ridiculous.
I did predict just after he signed that we likely wouldn't see him start much for the first few months. It was the same with Gini and he had a full pre-season with us too. In terms of tactical responsibility and pressing triggers, having a midfielder off the pace is a big problem in that #8 role. So he will be eased into things. He was clearly signed for 5 years in mind.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #304 on: October 17, 2017, 07:32:50 pm »
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #305 on: October 17, 2017, 07:33:03 pm »
come on redmen .. no fucking excuses tonight

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #306 on: October 17, 2017, 07:34:21 pm »
Not happy with the team.

Ox and Robertson must be furious that they aren't getting a look in.

No Henderson, who has been one of our better performers lately.

Who are we looking to answer the craft in CM - Milner!  :-\

Forgetting all the above... 

We should have far too much for them and let's hope we can get three points.

Not even too arsed about the performance, tonight it is about the result!

As we've been performing well but not getting the right results.  I'll take the opposite if needs be.

What Milner and Gini both excel at is supporting combinations in wider areas. Milner in particular plays as a central winger in that #8 role. Look for him to move out and support Moreno and (in particular) TAA in passing diamonds in wide areas. The crucial thing though is that when we do so, we don't try to play though the middle and lose the ball otherwise they tear through us just like Newcastle did.
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #307 on: October 17, 2017, 07:34:56 pm »
Still no leccy, so can't watch the match, but thankfully its one we should win and clashes with a more important match.

Anyway....c'mon the reds!

But more importantly....C'MON THE CITY!!!

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #308 on: October 17, 2017, 07:35:17 pm »
Must win

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #309 on: October 17, 2017, 07:36:22 pm »
It was the same with Gini and he had a full pre-season with us too.

Wijnaldum was starting straight away in the league wasn't he?

He might have had a pre season, but I really don't think it is rocket science what Klopp expects from a CM. 

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #310 on: October 17, 2017, 07:37:07 pm »
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #311 on: October 17, 2017, 07:37:34 pm »
What Milner and Gini both excel at is supporting combinations in wider areas. Milner in particular plays as a central winger in that #8 role. Look for him to move out and support Moreno and (in particular) TAA in passing diamonds in wide areas. The crucial thing though is that when we do so, we don't try to play though the middle and lose the ball otherwise they tear through us just like Newcastle did.

Excel? 

I'll stop as I want to be positive before the game...

Let's just hope we can win.

We should be able to.

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #312 on: October 17, 2017, 07:39:04 pm »
I did predict just after he signed that we likely wouldn't see him start much for the first few months. It was the same with Gini and he had a full pre-season with us too. In terms of tactical responsibility and pressing triggers, having a midfielder off the pace is a big problem in that #8 role. So he will be eased into things. He was clearly signed for 5 years in mind.

Eh? Wijnaldum started all but three league games last season and was in from the start. 

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #313 on: October 17, 2017, 07:39:13 pm »
Can’t watch tonight but will be getting updates. Hope we can get the 3 points from the game tonight

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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #315 on: October 17, 2017, 07:42:37 pm »
Come on Redmen let's win tonight.  :scarf
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Re: CL - NK Maribor V Liverpool FC - Tuesday October 17 - 19:45
« Reply #316 on: October 17, 2017, 07:44:11 pm »
Mon redmen, into these from the off and smash them.