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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #80 on: January 31, 2017, 12:57:49 pm »
This isn't really true.  All you have to do is look back 1 year ago at the goal that he scored in the Europa league final to see that he's able to create something on his own. 


How is that goal 'creating something on your own'?

Someone passed him the ball on the edge of the box. Finishing inside the box is not creating something on your own, regardless of how good the finish is and it was a fantastic finish.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #81 on: January 31, 2017, 01:19:53 pm »
How is that goal 'creating something on your own'?

Someone passed him the ball on the edge of the box. Finishing inside the box is not creating something on your own, regardless of how good the finish is and it was a fantastic finish.

Unless you count dribbling past a bunch of players and scoring a wonder goal then you can pretty much dismiss everything as "creating something".

The point I was trying to make was that in that Everton game he came on, did something nobody else was doing and it resulted in a goal. Simply turned his man, made space and took on a shot which was followed up
He's very smart around the box and sees passes and opportunities some of our other players do not seem to. He can be a real asset imo
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #82 on: January 31, 2017, 01:53:59 pm »
If he see's passes it would be nice for him to attempt them rather than doing a stepover and giving the ball away.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #83 on: January 31, 2017, 02:01:04 pm »
A bit early to give up on him yet.


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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #84 on: January 31, 2017, 02:17:02 pm »
Sturridge is one of our most intelligent passers imo.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #85 on: January 31, 2017, 02:27:33 pm »
If he see's passes it would be nice for him to attempt them rather than doing a stepover and giving the ball away.

lol I get the frustration mate...think I referenced earlier, it's probably why I think there's such a huge dividing opinion on him. Because he is so talented and we know what he can do

But yeah....less of the point-proving actions, stepovers etc at times and if he can take on the responsibility of being our most experienced attacker and harness his skillset he'll be still valuable to us
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #86 on: January 31, 2017, 02:39:45 pm »
If he see's passes it would be nice for him to attempt them rather than doing a stepover and giving the ball away.

Yeah because those stepovers have never lead to anything in the past  ::)
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #87 on: January 31, 2017, 02:54:08 pm »

Sorry but I'm so tired of hearing this myth.

Everton. Sunderland.
Two goals created out of nothing in the past couple of months.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #88 on: January 31, 2017, 03:16:52 pm »
Everton. Sunderland.
Two goals created out of nothing in the past couple of months.

Sunderland? Seriously? I had to google that to see what he did and IF that is an example of "creating something out of nothing" we might as well stick Lovren up front as our striker because he is just as likely to "create something out of nothing".


And Everton - a scuffed shot that worked out great for us.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #89 on: January 31, 2017, 03:20:51 pm »
Sunderland? Seriously? I had to google that to see what he did and IF that is an example of "creating something out of nothing" we might as well stick Lovren up front as our striker because he is just as likely to "create something out of nothing".


And Everton - a scuffed shot that worked out great for us.

Why do you say it was scoffed? He made space for himself and aimed for the far corner to the keepers left.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #90 on: January 31, 2017, 03:23:14 pm »
Still a very very useful player for us...form is temporary.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #91 on: January 31, 2017, 03:37:55 pm »
Why do you say it was scoffed? He made space for himself and aimed for the far corner to the keepers left.

Yes and he mishit it, the ball rolled along the ground. Sturridge has a ridiculously powerful shot and there was no way that the particular shot we're talking about was hit cleanly.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #92 on: January 31, 2017, 03:40:57 pm »
Yes and he mishit it, the ball rolled along the ground. Sturridge has a ridiculously powerful shot and there was no way that the particular shot we're talking about was hit cleanly.

He did the exact same thing vs Stoke in the first game of the season in 13/14. Look at the speed of the shot it's practically exactly the same.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #93 on: January 31, 2017, 03:47:32 pm »
He did the exact same thing vs Stoke in the first game of the season in 13/14. Look at the speed of the shot it's practically exactly the same.

Absolutely no chance. I remember that goal vividly. That was a proper powerful hit that flew into the bottom corner.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #94 on: January 31, 2017, 04:27:40 pm »
Everton. Sunderland.
Two goals created out of nothing in the past couple of months.

Are you serious? Pretty poor examples to use.



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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #95 on: January 31, 2017, 05:43:43 pm »
How is that goal 'creating something on your own'?

Someone passed him the ball on the edge of the box. Finishing inside the box is not creating something on your own, regardless of how good the finish is and it was a fantastic finish.

He received the ball 20 yards out, with defenders in front of him, and created a brilliant shot which gave us the lead.  There are more ways to create something on your own then dribbling by defenders. 

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #96 on: February 1, 2017, 06:43:07 am »
He missed against Everton.

Fashioning a shot is not creating something out of nothing, its what he should be doing all the time. He's not Leo Messi, he's not taking the ball around 3 players. He thinks he's Leo Messi, thats part of the problem.

Against Everton he picked the ball up on the edge of the box and made a couple of yards and had a shot. And he only managed that because everyone else was dead on their feet and he'd just been subbed on.

He's never been able to 'create something out of nothing' even at his peak he relied on Gerrard, Coutinho, Suarez, Sterling.

What is your definition of 'create something out of nothing'? I probably could find you a clip of Sturridge doing it.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #97 on: February 1, 2017, 06:56:57 am »
He's gone in the summer, I can't see Klopp keeping faith in him.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #98 on: February 1, 2017, 07:13:28 am »
Has Klopp tried changing the formation to accommodate him and Firmino? Without Mane we shouldn't be playing 433.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #99 on: February 1, 2017, 07:18:58 am »
Only once has something ever been created out of nothing. And that was the big bang. This conversation is tedious.

I do agree his time at Liverpool is probably up. But if he scores a couple of substitute goals and gets us a few points over the remainder of the season I'll be happy.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #100 on: February 1, 2017, 01:43:44 pm »
Has Klopp tried changing the formation to accommodate him and Firmino? Without Mane we shouldn't be playing 433.

Why would Klopp change a formation that's worked so well this year? 

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #101 on: February 1, 2017, 04:51:15 pm »
Why would Klopp change a formation that's worked so well this year?

Well to be pedantic it hasn't worked this year to be fair.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #102 on: February 1, 2017, 07:04:53 pm »
Well to be pedantic it hasn't worked this year to be fair.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #103 on: February 1, 2017, 07:09:50 pm »
Well to be pedantic it hasn't worked this year to be fair.

You're right.  1 point of 2nd place in the league.  We've been shit.  Let's change a formation for a player who has underperformed all year so we can drop out of the top 4 places.  Good idea. 

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #104 on: February 1, 2017, 08:35:36 pm »
You're right.  1 point of 2nd place in the league.  We've been shit.  Let's change a formation for a player who has underperformed all year so we can drop out of the top 4 places.  Good idea.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #105 on: February 1, 2017, 08:42:16 pm »
He's gonna be shit if we have a game of British Bulldog. Even hideoh he's going to be wank at. With that in mind - we should either sell him, or melt him down for glue.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #106 on: February 1, 2017, 10:16:05 pm »
Calendar year mate...

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #107 on: February 1, 2017, 10:18:14 pm »
He's gone in the summer, I can't see Klopp keeping faith in him.

Agree.

Maybe it is time we moved on from Sturridge, as sad as i'd be to see him leave.
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #108 on: February 1, 2017, 10:53:47 pm »
knew i was missing something.

I actually agree mate. I just couldn't resist.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #110 on: February 2, 2017, 10:08:40 am »
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #111 on: February 2, 2017, 12:42:21 pm »
He did the exact same thing vs Stoke in the first game of the season in 13/14. Look at the speed of the shot it's practically exactly the same.
It really, really isn't the same. Have that Stoke game still recorded on my tv and it was a power shot, nothing at all like the one vs Everton.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #112 on: February 2, 2017, 12:54:54 pm »
He's never been able to 'create something out of nothing' even at his peak he relied on Gerrard, Coutinho, Suarez, Sterling.

Nah...










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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #113 on: February 2, 2017, 12:59:08 pm »
Nah...


The only thing I get from those videos is how much I miss the little bastard scoring goals for us  :(

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #114 on: February 2, 2017, 01:18:38 pm »
The only thing I get from those videos is how much I miss the little bastard scoring goals for us  :(

and he didn't just always rely on service from others, which is why I posted them.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #115 on: February 2, 2017, 01:28:51 pm »
and he didn't just always rely on service from others, which is why I posted them.

And the big question everyone has is, can he do that anymore?  He's scored some fantastic goals for us, a few that you've shown above, but as of late there's not been a lot to get excited about and questions are rightly being asked about his decline due to injuries. 

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #116 on: February 2, 2017, 01:38:55 pm »
And the big question everyone has is, can he do that anymore?  He's scored some fantastic goals for us, a few that you've shown above, but as of late there's not been a lot to get excited about and questions are rightly being asked about his decline due to injuries.

His confidence right now is absolutely rock bottom, he's in and out of the team, whenever he's played he's just been chucked in with the kids or reserves, when he played with the rest of the first team he's looked good. But we're gonna get shit all from someone like him by using him like that, so whenever he does play of course he looks rusty and not great.

If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #117 on: February 2, 2017, 01:41:55 pm »
His confidence right now is absolutely rock bottom, he's in and out of the team, whenever he's played he's just been chucked in with the kids or reserves, when he played with the rest of the first team he's looked good. But we're gonna get shit all from someone like him by using him like that, so whenever he does play of course he looks rusty and not great.

Yeah, now he is fit he really needs an extended run in the side, both to gain his sharpness back and show he can remain fit.

Unfortunately it doesn't appear Klopp intends to give him that, which to me would indicate he's probably not going to remain in a red shirt beyond this season.

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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #118 on: February 2, 2017, 02:53:21 pm »
Why would Klopp change a formation that's worked so well this year?
It hasn't worked well without Mane?
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Re: Daniel Sturridge in decline: Speed statistics highlight the problem
« Reply #119 on: February 2, 2017, 03:54:12 pm »
Has Klopp tried changing the formation to accommodate him and Firmino? Without Mane we shouldn't be playing 433.

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