Author Topic: Who can claim historical supremacy? (Read 2099 times)

Rosso · « **on:** August 16, 2020, 05:32:55 pm »

I'm a United fan and I'm interested to hear your views, Who do you think can claim historical supremacy between United and Liverpool in terms of trophies? I think we just edge it, only because I would rather have more league titles and FA cups then European Cups and league cups, though I must admit to being very envious you lot have won 6.

If you manage to win the league title next season then I think the ball is in your court but considering we have 66 trophies to your 64 and also the treble in 99 then we have a very slight edge, but hey I could be wrong.

thoughts?

CraigDS · « **Reply #1 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:33:43 pm »

Who cares.

Brain Potter · « **Reply #2 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:34:48 pm »

Go back to red cafe

Clayton Bigsby · « **Reply #3 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:38:51 pm »

Quote from: Craig 🤔 on August 16, 2020, 05:33:43 pm

Who cares.

Perham · « **Reply #4 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:41:45 pm »

Quote from: Craig 🤔 on August 16, 2020, 05:33:43 pm

Who cares.

[Insert VVD gif]

Rosso · « **Reply #5 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:44:51 pm »

Well both sets of fans regularly sing songs regarding their trophy hauls?

CraigDS · « **Reply #6 on:** August 16, 2020, 05:47:09 pm »

Quote from: Rosso on August 16, 2020, 05:44:51 pm

Well both sets of fans regularly sing songs regarding their trophy hauls?

You lot haven't made any new ones for a few years.

[new username under construction] · « **Reply #7 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:06:48 pm »

I think we can both agree that we are both vastly more successful than City and have a good laugh at them

TepidT2O · « **Reply #8 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:10:06 pm »

Quote from: Rosso on August 16, 2020, 05:44:51 pm

Well both sets of fans regularly sing songs regarding their trophy hauls?

Football is tribal. Of course we do.

Neither gives a shit about what the other side thinks. It’s not for them.

mickeydocs · « **Reply #9 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:12:09 pm »

Quote from: Rosso on August 16, 2020, 05:32:55 pm

I'm a United fan

You took a wrong turn somewhere.

flyingcod · « **Reply #10 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:12:20 pm »

Jason Bourne can.

fc

Goalposts for Jumpers · « **Reply #11 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:18:24 pm »

Out of interest, how did a Utd fan with no posts to his name manage to start a new thread on the main board.

It took me about 6 months before being able to even post a reply on the main board.

soxfan · « **Reply #12 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:19:39 pm »

Iska · « **Reply #13 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:19:53 pm »

Hiya. It’s clearly us. You should only count the biggest trophies, so it’s 6/19 against 3/20. That’s not actually particularly close - 6 vs 3 is a massive difference whereas 20 vs 19 is more or less identical. I will concede that Utd are the bigger club though. Not entirely sure why that is - I suspect it’s mostly due to George Best - but it’s always been that way. Even when I was a kid in the 80s and we were at our absolute zenith it was still Utd who were the glamour club somehow. So you can console yourself with that.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #14 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:20:24 pm »

Quote from: Goalposts for Jumpers on August 16, 2020, 06:18:24 pm

Out of interest, how did a Utd fan with no posts to his name manage to start a new thread on the main board.

It took me about 6 months before being able to even post a reply on the main board.

They like to play with cheats

Billy The Kid · « **Reply #15 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:29:41 pm »

Perhaps someone from this forum can pop over to the caf and ask the same question

That way we can compare the objective responses from both forums to get an impartial consensus that we can all agree on

deFacto please, you bastards · « **Reply #16 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:31:57 pm »

You have 1 more league title, whilst we have 3 more European Cups. I'll take us over your lot.

Qston · « **Reply #17 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:32:01 pm »

Napoleon, the Romans, Genghis Kahn, Alexander the great, the British.....take your pick. Depends which period you're talking about

Djozer · « **Reply #18 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:36:21 pm »

Definitely Utd. Having one more league title is clearly better than having twice the number of European Cups. I'm surprised it's even up for debate.

Rosso · « **Reply #19 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:36:45 pm »

Quote from: Iska on August 16, 2020, 06:19:53 pm

Hiya. It’s clearly us. You should only count the biggest trophies, so it’s 6/19 against 3/20. That’s not actually particularly close - 6 vs 3 is a massive difference whereas 20 vs 19 is more or less identical. I will concede that Utd are the bigger club though. Not entirely sure why that is - I suspect it’s mostly due to George Best - but it’s always been that way. Even when I was a kid in the 80s and we were at our absolute zenith it was still Utd who were the glamour club somehow. So you can console yourself with that.

valid points man, I still personally regard the FA Cup as a big trophy, though it's getting less and less so as the years go on unfortunately.

flyingcod · « **Reply #20 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:41:42 pm »

Quote from: Rosso on August 16, 2020, 05:44:51 pm

Well both sets of fans regularly sing songs regarding their trophy hauls?

I think we do, I'd say you lot spend 90mins singing about us.

fc

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #21 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:50:25 pm »

Simple math.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #22 on:** August 16, 2020, 06:56:51 pm »

Quote from: You think you'd learn by now on August 16, 2020, 06:31:57 pm

You have 1 more league title, whilst we have 3 more European Cups. I'll take us over your lot.

Can someone do the percentage math?

ljycb · « **Reply #23 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:00:24 pm »

We’re both by far and away the two biggest clubs in England, and it’s mostly because we’re the last two teams to have a sustained period of dominance. I don’t think that can be done again either so it will probably stay that way.

S · « **Reply #24 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:02:07 pm »

Probably about even.

I've always thought the European Cup is more prestigious than the league though.

Macphisto80 · « **Reply #25 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:14:44 pm »

Quote from: soxfan on August 16, 2020, 06:19:39 pm

It ended as soon as it started.

6 European Cups with more on the horizon. Boom!. The end. Close the fucking thread.

Crosby Nick · « **Reply #26 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:16:52 pm »

United have never really had historical supremacy, I think you’ve only ever had three title winning managers in your history haven’t you? Liverpool won the title infrequently but most decades before our period of domination.

Personally I think our European record gives us the edge. We even won two UEFA Cups when they were very competitive (arguably our third one too). They seem a lot easier to win these days, thankfully for you.

Son of Spion · « **Reply #27 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:30:07 pm »

Quite clearly Liverpool.

We have more trophies than you.

We have also dominated both domestically and in Europe. United have had a period of domination in England, but considering the amount of times they qualified for the biggest prize of all when under Ferguson, their record at the highest level is not good. Liverpool are European Royalty, and head and shoulders above United on the biggest stage. We are both pretty much neck and neck when it comes to title wins domestically.

Overall, Liverpool are clearly ahead. As I said, we have more trophies than you.

mickeydocs · « **Reply #28 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:44:59 pm »

Hey Rosso, what's your view on the elf that manages your team?
Greatest coach in the world possibly in my view. Deserves an extremely long contract.

CHOPPER · « **Reply #29 on:** August 16, 2020, 07:51:48 pm »

There are only ever 2 trophies, the league and the European Cup. In about 5 years I can see the world club championship being on a near par........possibly? but the bread and butter and big ears, are far and away ahead of anything else.

If you manage to win the league title next season.......Be afraid, be very afraid.

Ravishing Rick Dude · « **Reply #30 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:00:12 pm »

Also the reason why you were so shit in Europe it's because rednose had no power over the european referees. When you watch some 90's and early 00's matches of Manutd versus Arsenal especially, when Ferguson was in charge, my God, things couldn't be more obvious. Rednose had the FA in his pocket.

WhereAngelsPlay · « **Reply #31 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:04:48 pm »

Quote from: S on August 16, 2020, 07:02:07 pm

Probably about even.

I've always thought the European Cup is more prestigious than the league though.

If even means being 3 ahead.

We will reach 50 before them as well.

aw1991 · « **Reply #32 on:** August 16, 2020, 08:24:28 pm »

You prefer the FA Cup over the Champions League? To each his own but I definitely disagree. Winning the PL was amazing because it's been so long, but the I rank the CL up there with it. The rest are a bit of a bonus.

JerseyKloppite · « **Reply #33 on:** August 16, 2020, 09:04:33 pm »