Topic: Windows 10, professional spyware.

[Ultimate Bromance]

I still haven't got it, never mind get rid of it.  I'm guessing it goes away if you register for the upgrade?

Unfortunately not.

[oojason]

Anyone know how to get rid of that link ?
There is no option to ignore this.
Very irritating  !

start the task manager and under processes look for 'gwx.exe' - and end the process.

In a few seconds the Win 10 link will disappear. Unfortunately it'll come back when you restart the pc next time.


Try here for an alternative method too (I haven't used it - so no idea):-

http://www.sevenforums.com/news/371537-how-remove-get-windows-10-app-your-pc.html



Personally I'll wait a couple of months before deciding to switch to Win 10 or not - let them iron out the problems / issues first. Certainly don't want to be in a similar position many people found themselves in when we switched from XP to Vista, and later to Win 8.

Of course, if you have 2 or more decent computers you may want to use one of them as a guinea pig and switch to Win 10 as soon as.


If anyone still dislikes Win 8/8.1 you can still use the superb 'Classic Shell' - along with it's traditional 'Start Button' and features which enable the desktop screen and functions to pretty much look like a Windows 7 desktop screen, for free - here:-

http://www.classicshell.net/

[Ron]

I still haven't got it, never mind get rid of it.  I'm guessing it goes away if you register for the upgrade?

Probably, but I don't want it.
I start using new operating systems after at least 1 official patch, not before.

Thanks, I'll try that !

[Pheeny]

Why is it annoying,some people are far to fussy.

[Ron]

Why is it annoying,some people are far to fussy.

Hi Pheeny.

It is annoying because I do not get a chance to say, no, thank you !
I have seen your little thingy, but I don't want your new operating system and would like to continue working with my version of Windows 7 now.
I find it weird to be spammed upon like this.

[oojason]

Why is it annoying,some people are far to fussy.

To be honest mate Microsoft used Windows Update to install an advertising spam application on people's machines without asking first - and it's also not something you can easily remove (ie - right click, then select 'exit').

A one or two-time info ad would surely have been better. On older, slower machines I'd be pissed off that it's using up my pc resources that I'd rather have for other things.

Plus, you have to question if MS are going to do this again in the future? and not just for upgrades/adverts for Win10?

[Ron]

To be honest mate Microsoft used Windows Update to install an advertising spam application on people's machines without asking first - and it's also not something you can easily remove (ie - right click, then select 'exit').

A one or two-time info ad would surely have been better. On older, slower machines I'd be pissed off that it's using up my pc resources that I'd rather have for other things.

Plus, you have to question if MS are going to do this again in the future? and not just for upgrades/adverts for Win10?

Agree 100 % !

You can uninstall windows update KB3035583 (that's the file) (edit, and KB2952664) from Control Panel/Programs/Programs and Features/view installed updates/  then select the file and uninstall it.
You need to reboot after that.

[Ron]

You can uninstall windows update KB3035583 (that's the file) (edit, and KB2952664) from Control Panel/Programs/Programs and Features/view installed updates/  then select the file and uninstall it.
You need to reboot after that.

Didn't work, it's back.


It's going to re-install this bullshit when you start your PC again, if you've got auto updates on.
Very unethical to fuck your costumers like that, Microsoft !
Telling me this is an important update while it is nothing but spam !

[Elmo!]

Didn't work, it's back.


It's going to re-install this bullshit when you start your PC again, if you've got auto updates on.
Very unethical to fuck your costumers like that, Microsoft !
Telling me this is an important update while it is nothing but spam !

Temporarily turn off auto updates, go to Windows Update and click where it says 'xx updates available' to see a list of the updates. Right click on the Windows 10 update and click hide update.  That should stop it reinstalling even after turning auto update back on.

[Ron]

Temporarily turn off auto updates, go to Windows Update and click where it says 'xx updates available' to see a list of the updates. Right click on the Windows 10 update and click hide update.  That should stop it reinstalling even after turning auto update back on.

I don''t know.
I don't think that will work.
By the way, look at this, it's those 2 files filed under important updates !!!
Crazy shit, this !
Most aggressive marketing I've seen from Microsoft !
Click the picture below to see the funny description MS gives to this spam file !



Edit: 1 file is also in the optional files section.
They really, REALLY want to flog this shit, it seems ...

[Upinsmoke]

They'll never change.

[Ron]

They'll never change.

Laws should be changed to prevent companies from taking the piss.
That will never happen though, we all know who are the real kings of this world ...

[Elmo!]

I don''t know.
I don't think that will work.
By the way, look at this, it's those 2 files filed under important updates !!!
Crazy shit, this !
Most aggressive marketing I've seen from Microsoft !
Click the picture below to see the funny description MS gives to this spam file !



Edit: 1 file is also in the optional files section.
They really, REALLY want to flog this shit, it seems ...

I've got those optional updates waiting to install and I suspected one of them was this Windows 10 shit even though it says nothing about it.  Will be swerving installing it until July 29th...

[Pheeny]

Still can't see why anyone can be annoyed at having a little flag thing on their toolbar!

[Ron]

Still can't see why anyone can be annoyed at having a little flag thing on their toolbar!

Very useful comment right there ...

[Titi Camara]

Will DirectX 12 run on windows 7?

Struggling to come up with a benefits case for switching!

[JasonF]

The Windows 10 technical preview is running great on my PC, a couple of little bugs on the start menu on the latest build but by July 29th I'm sure all of that stuff will be running perfectly. For me Windows 8 was a big improvement in performance compared to Windows 7 too, I used a start menu replacement (Metro seemed to be most peoples main gripe with it) and it was just like Windows 7, only faster and with a cleaner interface and a few additional features.

I'm not sure why anyone would be afraid of a free upgrade to Windows 10, particularly if they're still using Windows 7.

[Kashinoda]

I'm not sodding around with this default upgrade option, it's so damn messy. Though Microsoft do say you'll be able to do a fresh install afterwards.

I need an ISO and fresh install.

[iSmiff]

The Windows 10 technical preview is running great on my PC, a couple of little bugs on the start menu on the latest build but by July 29th I'm sure all of that stuff will be running perfectly. For me Windows 8 was a big improvement in performance compared to Windows 7 too, I used a start menu replacement (Metro seemed to be most peoples main gripe with it) and it was just like Windows 7, only faster and with a cleaner interface and a few additional features.

I'm not sure why anyone would be afraid of a free upgrade to Windows 10, particularly if they're still using Windows 7.

ditto, once you get rid of metro and put the start menu back it's basically windows 7 with better performance

[Kashinoda]

Will DirectX 12 run on windows 7?

Struggling to come up with a benefits case for switching!

Why are you on Windows 7 rather than Vista? They're basically the same apart from how much better Windows 7 performs.

Same with Windows 8

Same with Windows 10

[reniformis]

I'm not sodding around with this default upgrade option, it's so damn messy. Though Microsoft do say you'll be able to do a fresh install afterwards.

I need an ISO and fresh install.

Same here.

Although I'm not confident they'll make it easy. Windows 8.0 keys are different to Windows 8.1 keys even though that was a free upgrade so despite having a genuine 8.0 key they wouldn't let me install the from the 8.1 ISO, I had to use a workaround using a KMS key to get it to install before changing it to the 8.0 key post-install. For whatever reason microsoft wanted me to do everything through the Windows Store. Pointless and annoying. Depends on how they deal with licences this time around.

The two other things that have caught my attention are that Media Centre won't be available for 10. It wasn't in 8 either but you could get it separately, which I did because it worked well with my TV Tuner card, so I'll have to find something else and XBMC/Kodi looks like a right faff to get working with it. The other thing is that on the Home version of 10, updates are automatic and in the background and you can't change it so it will basically hijack your internet connection at various times. The Pro version lets you delay downloads and installs, and which version you get depends on what you're upgrading from, so be aware.

Finally, on non-genuine versions of 7 and 8, it appears they'll let you upgrade to 10 but they'll leave you with a crippled and nagging version of 10 (watermarks, features unavailable etc) but I'd expect it would still allow security updates as otherwise it would just be a breeding ground for malware to be passed to genuine users. That's just my opinion though.

[iSmiff]

If you don't qualify for a free copy of windows 10 you can still get it free

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/20/8818383/microsoft-windows-10-free-for-testers


Just install the beta on a pc and you get a free copy when it launches

[redgriffin73]

I'm on Win 7, is it worth upgrading to 10 or not? I didn't bother with 8 as I don't like the tiles design, is 10 the same?

[Elmo!]

I'm on Win 7, is it worth upgrading to 10 or not? I didn't bother with 8 as I don't like the tiles design, is 10 the same?

10 has the Tiles but it defaults to the normal old desktop and has Start button and menu.

[JasonF]

Windows 10 is much better performance wise than Windows 7 (as were 8 and 8.1).

The Start menu (although a little buggy on the last couple of technical preview builds) is pretty nice too, so if that put you off 8 & 8.1 then it's worth checking it out.

Very glad they've decided to give a free upgrade to users running Windows 10 technical preview. I didn't have a legit Windows 7/8/8.1 so it saves me worrying about waiting for a pirate version or parting with any money.

[iSmiff]

I'm most looking foward to the apps, i ignored them completely on 8 because they all ran full screen unless you ran some 3rd party software to change it, I never bothered.

[reniformis]

If you don't qualify for a free copy of windows 10 you can still get it free

http://www.theverge.com/2015/6/20/8818383/microsoft-windows-10-free-for-testers


Just install the beta on a pc and you get a free copy when it launches

I'd be a bit wary of that route. Maybe I'm wrong but I get the impression that, yes, you'll get a legit upgrade to RTM W10 but you'd still be part of the testing program and subsequently get all the unfinished updates and stuff forced on you to test because that's what you signed up for in the first place. Basically a guinea pig for the people who've paid. It's better than a pirated version but you won't think that if your PC goes tits up because of a bug. Cynical maybe but there you go.

[Twelfth Man]

Will finally be able to utilize my G. Silks PC2400 32GB RAM. Sadly in September I'll be building a new rig, so they, only 2 weeks old will have to go on ebay...

[iSmiff]

I'd be a bit wary of that route. Maybe I'm wrong but I get the impression that, yes, you'll get a legit upgrade to RTM W10 but you'd still be part of the testing program and subsequently get all the unfinished updates and stuff forced on you to test because that's what you signed up for in the first place. Basically a guinea pig for the people who've paid. It's better than a pirated version but you won't think that if your PC goes tits up because of a bug. Cynical maybe but there you go.

er it's out in about six weeks, it's pretty much the finished product, updates will be minimal, what's out there at present is window 10

as for PC going tits up with a bug

is it 2001??

those days are mostly long consigned to history

[wz4jc3]

What's being released on the 29th July? Is it a service pack for Win10?   Pardon my ignorance.

[Elmo!]

What's being released on the 29th July? Is it a service pack for Win10?   Pardon my ignorance.

Windows 10 itself. Only Technical Previews have been released so far.

[wz4jc3]

Windows 10 itself. Only Technical Previews have been released so far.

Now it makes sense. Thank you.

[Kashinoda]

er it's out in about six weeks, it's pretty much the finished product, updates will be minimal, what's out there at present is window 10

as for PC going tits up with a bug

is it 2001??

those days are mostly long consigned to history

Might go for this, when the time comes will it just be a case of updated license and a standard Windows update? Or an entire upgrade similar to the Windows 8.1 > 10 process?

[Twelfth Man]

Might go for this, when the time comes will it just be a case of updated license and a standard Windows update? Or an entire upgrade similar to the Windows 8.1 > 10 process?

I was under the impression it would be the former. You keep all your programs etc.

[Kashinoda]

I was under the impression it would be the former. You keep all your programs etc.

Well you keep all your programs in both instances, but an upgrade removes the previous installation and installs a new one. I'm not a massive fan of that.

If it's just Windows Update then awesome.

[Upinsmoke]

I'm sticking with 7.

[Kashinoda]

I'm sticking with 7.

As a fellow gamer I can't comprehend why you didn't even upgrade to 8.1 let alone 10.

[Motty]

I barely notice what's in my toolbar most of the time anyway.

[Twelfth Man]

As a fellow gamer I can't comprehend why you didn't even upgrade to 8.1 let alone 10.

I should have done that... But Windows 7 seems fine for gaming. The extra RAM would have been nice, not for gaming, but to game and do other stuff whilst gaming.

[Kashinoda]

I should have done that... But Windows 7 seems fine for gaming. The extra RAM would have been nice, not for gaming, but to game and do other stuff whilst gaming.

I guess it's game dependent somewhat, DX 11.2 in Windows 8.1 gave games like Battlefield 4 a 30% performance boost.