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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3200 on: December 8, 2021, 10:39:09 am »
I don't know, it builds great mental strength and focus to keep your eyes off that during training.

I hope it’s Gentle Ben.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3201 on: December 8, 2021, 10:58:37 am »
I’m not sure it helps the lad when people talk about him ‘deserving to start next to VVD’ or ‘deserves to be 3rd choice’. He’s a cracking fifth choice CB for us, we should be happy with that without trying to push him above better players.

Exactly this.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3202 on: December 8, 2021, 11:07:39 am »
I’m not sure it helps the lad when people talk about him ‘deserving to start next to VVD’ or ‘deserves to be 3rd choice’. He’s a cracking fifth choice CB for us, we should be happy with that without trying to push him above better players.

I think it helps him an awful lot myself to be honest. His confidence must be high when he hears stuff like that. Would he ever have attempted THAT turn last night if people said he should be nowhere near the team like  ;)

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3203 on: December 8, 2021, 11:39:30 am »
Famous quotes from two greats of the game:

Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 2017: "I'm an animal. I feel like a lion. I don't want to be a lion, I am a lion... The lion is born a lion, it means I'm a lion."

Nat Phillips, 2021: "If ever I lose a header, it proper winds me up."

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1468320601051967491?s=21

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3204 on: December 8, 2021, 11:39:55 am »

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3205 on: December 8, 2021, 11:42:58 am »
Famous quotes from two greats of the game:

Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 2017: "I'm an animal. I feel like a lion. I don't want to be a lion, I am a lion... The lion is born a lion, it means I'm a lion."

Nat Phillips, 2021: "If ever I lose a header, it proper winds me up."

https://twitter.com/paddypower/status/1468320601051967491?s=21

haha love it. That Ibrahimovic fella is something eh. You have to admire his confidence in a way when you hear him discuss how he was treated as a kid but he can be a right bellend too.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3206 on: December 8, 2021, 11:45:01 am »
I first saw Nat in the pre season Torino friendly and he looked like a decent player then, played alongside Virg, but he wasn't going to be a starter any time soon with VVD, Matip, Lovren and Gomez all in front of him. I've also suffered seeing Slabhead due to the missus watching their games and I've seen him make mistake after mistake after mistake, costing a lot of goals. Maybe Maguire is better technically, although I've not seen it, but on pure doing your job, Nat does his time after time after time, while Maguire is a liability. He runs about like a headless chicken and causes more issues than he solves.

Klopp has admitted he made a mistake putting Fab and Hendo in the back 4 last season, I think he realised he should have trusted Nat and Rhys a lot sooner than he did.

For a professional, playing for Liverpool, at Anfield and at places like the San Siro, being on the bench at these grounds, training at Kirkby every day with world class players, playing for Klopp, loving your job and picking up medals that matter, surely that is a dream job. I'd rather that than play week in week out for Burnley.

Was exactly my point, but Al was adamant that Nat was pulling us down and should never play for us again despite what the win ratio said when Fabi was restored to midfield and Nat played in defense. We were so much better at the tail end of last season.

What he said made no sense considering how much we improved in the last part of last season and still makes no sense even though Nat has played only a couple of games this season.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3207 on: December 8, 2021, 11:47:36 am »
Phillips is a great example of the work that is done on the training field.

Yes he probably should have came in earlier last season but he improved massively training with the 1st team for an extended period not just pre season.

Last night he was brillant. There will be plenty of PL clubs after him in January now.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3208 on: December 8, 2021, 11:55:31 am »
Almost unreal the improvement he's made, if he came in during the summer for 30 million and was called Natinho, he'd almost certainly be more appreciated (not saying he isn't by the majority of our fans) and rated.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3209 on: December 8, 2021, 12:03:52 pm »
everyones favourite human gargoyle Gabby Agbonlahor chatting turbo shite about Nat being a championship player at best. So obviously for clicks so I wont post the link...

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3210 on: December 8, 2021, 12:13:42 pm »
I think it helps him an awful lot myself to be honest. His confidence must be high when he hears stuff like that. Would he ever have attempted THAT turn last night if people said he should be nowhere near the team like  ;)

Yeah I don't get that logic of that. Why would it not help him to know fans rate him and have confidence in him? I don't agree with them but he's earned his fans and I don't see why extra confidence and belief would be bad for a player like Nat.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3211 on: December 8, 2021, 01:06:26 pm »
I've no idea why he'd leave mid season. Next summer, sure. But like... why get off this train now.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3212 on: December 8, 2021, 01:06:58 pm »
everyones favourite human gargoyle Gabby Agbonlahor chatting turbo shite about Nat being a championship player at best. So obviously for clicks so I wont post the link...

Doesn’t Ibangthewhore have like 5 kids to pay child support for from like 4 different women? He should probably shut the f up.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3213 on: December 8, 2021, 02:21:22 pm »
I've no idea why he'd leave mid season. Next summer, sure. But like... why get off this train now.

I've seen two tweets from James Pearce suggesting he's too good for 5th choice and should be looking for a move to first team football in January. Feels like a brief from club sources that we are looking to sell in Jan if a good offer is there. Think his stock is about as high as it will ever be and January can be a good time to sell to some clubs in panic mode.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3214 on: December 8, 2021, 02:24:00 pm »
He's done everything asked of him and rightly put himself in the shop window.  But if an offer for £15m or higher comes in, we're biting the hand off the team offering.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3215 on: December 8, 2021, 02:29:05 pm »
Last night he was brillant. There will be plenty of PL clubs after him in January now.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3216 on: December 8, 2021, 02:55:44 pm »
He's done everything asked of him and rightly put himself in the shop window.  But if an offer for £15m or higher comes in, we're biting the hand off the team offering.

Honestly feel we'd be selling ourselves short, White went for £50 million.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3217 on: December 8, 2021, 03:30:09 pm »

Zlatan Ibrahimovic, 2017: "I'm an animal. I feel like a lion. I don't want to be a lion, I am a lion... The lion is born a lion, it means I'm a lion."


What's he trying to say there? That he's some sort of....lion? Is that it?
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3218 on: December 8, 2021, 03:42:47 pm »
What's he trying to say there? That he's some sort of....lion? Is that it?

He's lyin about that though.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3219 on: December 8, 2021, 03:47:04 pm »
He's lyin about that though.
So is Jimmy Nail.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3220 on: December 8, 2021, 04:08:27 pm »
What's he trying to say there? That he's some sort of....lion? Is that it?

I’d be lion if I knew what is going on here…

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3221 on: December 8, 2021, 04:23:24 pm »
He's lyin about that though.

Aslan as you are doing puns - at least make an effort.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3222 on: December 8, 2021, 05:18:44 pm »
Honestly feel we'd be selling ourselves short, White went for £50 million.

Players like Nat are not fashionable in the modern game unfortunately. I think he's a bit like Tony Adams, whereas clubs now seem to want defenders that look silky like Ben White or John Stones. I'd say we'd probably get about £15m for him, but based on ability alone, he's worth a good bit more than that.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3223 on: December 8, 2021, 05:26:06 pm »
What's he trying to say there? That he's some sort of....lion? Is that it?

His train of though there seems vaguely familiar,but it was the 90's and used to party quite a lot back then.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3224 on: December 8, 2021, 05:37:36 pm »
His train of though there seems vaguely familiar,but it was the 90's and used to party quite a lot back then.
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Re: Nat Phillips
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3226 on: December 9, 2021, 09:49:22 am »
West Ham are keeping tabs on him, seems like a no brainer for both parties. Anything below 25m would be a shite deal imo considering how much he's grown here, let's see where this goes.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3227 on: December 9, 2021, 10:05:50 am »
All credit and kudos to Caramac on TLW:-



Basically just want another 100 pages of this gif
WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE!

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3228 on: December 9, 2021, 10:21:12 am »
All credit and kudos to Caramac on TLW:-



If that was Maguire, Ibrahimovich still gets the ball and Maguire falls flat on his face.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3229 on: December 9, 2021, 10:58:10 am »
If he stays needs to play in all the league cup/FA cup games.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3230 on: December 9, 2021, 10:59:35 am »
If he stays needs to play in all the league cup/FA cup games.

Why does he need to play all of those games....?
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3231 on: December 9, 2021, 12:03:51 pm »
If that was Maguire, Ibrahimovich still gets the ball and Maguire falls flat on his face.

If that was Maguire, he'd turn without the ball and kick Ibra on the shin to earn a penalty and red card.
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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3232 on: December 9, 2021, 12:54:17 pm »
Why does he need to play all of those games....?

to piss off welshred of course

(where did he go btw)

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3233 on: December 9, 2021, 01:34:47 pm »
West Ham are keeping tabs on him, seems like a no brainer for both parties. Anything below 25m would be a shite deal imo considering how much he's grown here, let's see where this goes.

I could think of worse places for him to end up. He deserves a first team spot somewhere, but it will be a sad day for us when we lose him.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3234 on: December 9, 2021, 01:48:00 pm »
All credit and kudos to Caramac on TLW:-



That could be improved upon if Nat was laughing as he ran off with it.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3235 on: December 9, 2021, 01:49:45 pm »
Players like Nat are not fashionable in the modern game unfortunately. I think he's a bit like Tony Adams, whereas clubs now seem to want defenders that look silky like Ben White or John Stones. I'd say we'd probably get about £15m for him, but based on ability alone, he's worth a good bit more than that.

what do you mean not fashionable? Maguire went for 80 big ones.

there will always be a market for players like him as long as there are dinosaurs like pulis,dyche and big sam in management.

didn't he sign a contract extension just before the start of the season. If we get a decent amount off him, it will be another one of Edwards last masterstroke for us


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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3236 on: December 9, 2021, 01:54:06 pm »
what do you mean not fashionable? Maguire went for 80 big ones.

there will always be a market for players like him as long as there are dinosaurs like pulis,dyche and big sam in management.

didn't he sign a contract extension just before the start of the season. If we get a decent amount off him, it will be another one of Edwards last masterstroke for us



Except that Maguire was fraudulently raised up by the english media and manu supporters as some classy ball playing centerback so they 1) compare him to VVD and 2) justify the price tag.

Turns out - as many knew - that he's trash.


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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3237 on: December 9, 2021, 02:00:27 pm »
West Ham are keeping tabs on him, seems like a no brainer for both parties. Anything below 25m would be a shite deal imo considering how much he's grown here, let's see where this goes.
He was 19 and already a tall lad when we signed him, so I doubt he's grown all that much in fairness.

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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3238 on: December 9, 2021, 05:36:11 pm »
All credit and kudos to Caramac on TLW:-


Can't stop watching this gif, and the more it's quoted, the better. :)

Funny thing though, Nat's first touch is not the best, which puts the ball a bit away from him. Kessie and the other attacker sense a vulnerability and go for the press with the hope to get to the ball first, and then the magic happens... Kinda like this:


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Re: Nat Phillips
« Reply #3239 on: December 9, 2021, 07:45:44 pm »
Can't stop watching this gif, and the more it's quoted, the better. :)

Funny thing though, Nat's first touch is not the best, which puts the ball a bit away from him. Kessie and the other attacker sense a vulnerability and go for the press with the hope to get to the ball first, and then the magic happens... Kinda like this:

Who's "the other attacker"? Anyone of note?
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