Topic: VAR! Video Assistant Referee & Shite Referees in General

[Andy @ Allerton!]

How can LFC allow a fucking Manchester United fan to ref us again and again.

Only way I can see it stopping is if we just outright refused to play the game. English football is as bent as fuck.

Foul of Salah, edge of the area ignored. Konate pulled over in the area. Ignored.

Not sure there can be anyone that don’t think it’s just plain wrong the referees in this country. Every fucking week.

Absolute fucking disgrace all the way through Coote. I’d actually love it if one of ours with not long to go just knocked the fucker out. I’m really surprised given how fucking bent they are that it hasn’t already happened.

That free kick against Milner when he got the ball on 65 minutes sums up Coote. Made worse when Milner was clearly pushed over in the area. Fucking ignored, of course.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Ha deffo foul by Konate. First decision to go our way all day

[Son of Spion]

I thought the Brighton man made an absolute meal of that. Good challenge by Konate.

* My phone's autocorrect changed Konate to Monster. 😃

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Deffo bad foul by Fabinho as well

I think Klopp has maybe said - these have been booting us up and down the park all day, give them a fucking kick.

[Andy82lfc]

Dumb as fuck by Fabio, even dumber making a big deal of it like he’s expecting a red. Don’t know where his heads at.

[tubby]

Dumb as fuck by Fabio, even dumber making a big deal of it like he’s expecting a red. Don’t know where his heads at.

Just looked like he knew it was a shocker and felt bad about it.

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Just looked like he knew it was a shocker and felt bad about it.

Yeah that's the way I read it

Weird the Coote didn't fuck us over those though

[bird_lfc]

Yeah that's the way I read it

Weird the Coote didn't fuck us over those though

Probably because not every game is an anti-liverpool conspiracy like you think it is, mate.

[Andy82lfc]

Just looked like he knew it was a shocker and felt bad about it.

And the foul itself??

[DelTrotter]

Time keeping in this country is farcical, 5 added when Mac Allister and the other guy took that long alone. Not that'd we'd have scored even if 20 were added but just a general point

[Elzar]

100% a ref for Fabinho that.

 Would like to have seen the offside again as they showed a still at first and then went back a frame!

[Andy @ Allerton!]

100% a ref for Fabinho that.

 Would like to have seen the offside again as they showed a still at first and then went back a frame!

Was deffo offside. When they showed it again with the lines, was a different frame.

I'm glad. I think we need a break at the moment. Going to be hard to get any momentum going this season. Another replay on the 8th would have fucked us completely.

This day and age they need to fuck off these bastard replays. Who the fuck wants them especially after that fucking stupid World Cup shite.

[redgriffin73]

* My phone's autocorrect changed Konate to Monster. 😃

I mean it's not wrong

[redgriffin73]

 Would like to have seen the offside again as they showed a still at first and then went back a frame!

Yeah , my eyes are shit but I thought it was offside, looked like a red arm was all that was keeping them on in the pic they showed.

[Elzar]

Yeah , my eyes are shit but I thought it was offside, looked like a red arm was all that was keeping them on in the pic they showed.

Same, then they showed the VAR view and it was a different frame where he was on. Very confusing, would prefer the TV companies just showed it in full without a random still.

[thejbs]

Genuinely shocked Fabinho didn't get a red. He seemed sure he was off too.  Horrible challenge.

[Fromola]

I know he's playing crap anyway so wouldn't make much difference but he's done us a favour not sending Fabinho off as he'd have missed the derby and the game either side. A lot more pressure on Bajcetic then for 3 games with no cover.

Thought their goal could have gone either way but i'd rather the attacker gets the benefit of the doubt when it's so tight. Plus I really didn't want a replay so i'm not complaining it was given.

[Fromola]

Time keeping in this country is farcical, 5 added when Mac Allister and the other guy took that long alone. Not that'd we'd have scored even if 20 were added but just a general point

Lost 2-3 minutes from the goal being scored to the restart within the injury time as well. Played about an extra 20 seconds.

[nayia2002]

How can you not give a red card when you see a reply of the Fabinho challenge??!! 

Seriously this needs to be binned immediately as it's bringing the game into disrepute and will only indice more hatred towards the game and opposing fan's football teams

[thejbs]

Wasn't even the so-called 'orange card' scenario. It was a clear red.

[tonysleft]

Was deffo offside. When they showed it again with the lines, was a different frame.

I'm glad. I think we need a break at the moment. Going to be hard to get any momentum going this season. Another replay on the 8th would have fucked us completely.

This day and age they need to fuck off these bastard replays. Who the fuck wants them especially after that fucking stupid World Cup shite.

Did the two reds not given factor into the refs being bought off and trying to screw Liverpool today

[Andy @ Allerton!]

Did the two reds not given factor into the refs being bought off and trying to screw Liverpool today

I'm very surprised that Coote never used a Red. I can get the Fabinho one, but Konate they actually made contact with each others hips.

This modern game is shite now though. Gets more laughable every week. Given how much your divers get freekicks for their squeaky 'Platoon' style dives, you'd think that they were going to be given last rites.

Fabinho probably got the benefit of the doubt having been on for about a minute. The Robbo 'foul' was actually their player jumping in two footed.

So maybe got away with one, but when Keita was backed into - that actually could have been a very serious injury. Not even a booking.

It's always hard to tell if refs are bent or shite or both most of the time, but Coote has quite the record with us.

[Fromola]

Fabinho one I thought looked a booking in real time (i.e. late and a bit reckless) but one where VAR should have got involved with benefit of replays as it was really dangerous.

Players should be protected more from bad challenges and VAR doesn't get involved enough on that front. Partey against us for example should have gone and that ruined Diaz's season.

[red_Mark1980]

Did the two reds not given factor into the refs being bought off and trying to screw Liverpool today

Man U fan moaning about a dodgy ref... Give me a break

[Hazell]

Genuinely shocked Fabinho didn't get a red. He seemed sure he was off too.  Horrible challenge.

Yeah, really surprised by that. Konate I could understand they wouldn't overturn but Fabinho's was pretty blatant. It comes down to the inconsistency again.

[Johnny Foreigner]

Did the two reds not given factor into the refs being bought off and trying to screw Liverpool today

Are you renting out your holiday Home Tony ? A couple of months away and you always seems to come back with a lot of energy ! Must be a fantastic place !

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Are you renting out your holiday Home Tony ? A couple of months away and you always seems to come back with a lot of energy ! Must be a fantastic place !

 

[4pool]

Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the body responsible for match officials across English football, has admitted Liverpool midfielder Fabinho should have been sent off for his challenge on Brighton & Hove Albion forward Evan Ferguson in Sunday's FA Cup tie.

Fabinho caught Ferguson on the Achilles in a lunging challenge from behind in the 86th minute. Referee David Coote gave the foul but only showed Fabinho a yellow card and the VAR, Neil Swarbrick, decided against a review to upgrade to a red card.

PGMOL expects fouls of this nature to result in a red card, with the full point of contact from the studs above the ankle from behind, and there should have been a VAR intervention with the player sent off for serious foul play.

Even though PGMOL has conceded Fabinho should have been sent off -- and therefore serve a three-match ban -- no retrospective action is possible because the incident was seen and assessed by both the referee and the VAR. The Football Association could only charge the Liverpool player if the officials hadn't seen it during the game.

[Black Bull Nova]

Not often I say this but a few games off might not have been a bad thing for Fab

[rob1966]

Professional Game Match Officials Limited (PGMOL), the body responsible for match officials across English football, has admitted Liverpool midfielder Fabinho should have been sent off for his challenge on Brighton & Hove Albion forward Evan Ferguson in Sunday's FA Cup tie.

Li-VAR-pool getting looked after again..

I was surprised Fab didn't see red, it was such an stupid thing to do. Don't know if there was intent or his head just wasn't switched on. Lack of sleep from the new baby getting to him?

[Elzar]

Forgot about this as it was fairly close to the start of the game, but does anyone remember Ferguson running towards the corner, stop and just fall on the floor when Gomez was near him? No freekick was given to Brighton and we just played on and no booking given at the next break of play. Linesman clearly saw it and said no foul.

What is the actual ruling on diving? Is it if the player is trying to win a penalty? (more rules for one area of the pitch only).

Looking at it from a completely simplistic point of view, diving is a just a player deciding not to want the ball anymore and deciding to fall to the floor, so why not just play on? But then they do still punish it some times.

[Statto Red]

Time keeping in this country is farcical, 5 added when Mac Allister and the other guy took that long alone. Not that'd we'd have scored even if 20 were added but just a general point

I've always said their needs to be an independent timekeeper like in Rugby, so everyone can see how long is left, whether in the stadium or watching on TV.

[BoRed]

Forgot about this as it was fairly close to the start of the game, but does anyone remember Ferguson running towards the corner, stop and just fall on the floor when Gomez was near him? No freekick was given to Brighton and we just played on and no booking given at the next break of play. Linesman clearly saw it and said no foul.

What is the actual ruling on diving? Is it if the player is trying to win a penalty? (more rules for one area of the pitch only).

Looking at it from a completely simplistic point of view, diving is a just a player deciding not to want the ball anymore and deciding to fall to the floor, so why not just play on? But then they do still punish it some times.

It was Robbo that was behind him, he was outraged by the dive, and it was just after Bajcetic was booked for nothing. As far as I know, the rule is that diving is always a bookable offence, but it mostly goes unpunished.

[rob1966]

Forgot about this as it was fairly close to the start of the game, but does anyone remember Ferguson running towards the corner, stop and just fall on the floor when Gomez was near him? No freekick was given to Brighton and we just played on and no booking given at the next break of play. Linesman clearly saw it and said no foul.

What is the actual ruling on diving? Is it if the player is trying to win a penalty? (more rules for one area of the pitch only).

Looking at it from a completely simplistic point of view, diving is a just a player deciding not to want the ball anymore and deciding to fall to the floor, so why not just play on? But then they do still punish it some times.

I didn't think he dived, what he did as far as I was concerned was he just stopped running trying to initiate a foul and Robbo ran into the back of him

[cdav]

Got to be a red for Guimaraes this, he'd lost the plot before then

Edit- been sent off so a nice 3 match ban upcoming. Should be extended for failing to leave the pitch

[Redsnappa]

Got to be a red for Guimaraes this, he'd lost the plot before then

Deserved. Shame Ward-Prowse couldn't make them pay.

[12C]

No red for Antony stamp.
Three fouls on the Forest player and the ref give United a free kick. Antony stamps in passing, snarled at thhe forestmplayer for being a cheat and VAR says the ref was right.
Just shit referees in PGMOL.

[4pool]

Not a penalty for handball on the line in our match. Neil Mellor was adamant it was a handball and said this is why VAR was introduced to the game to catch "obvious" errors.

When the replay came on he was twice as sure. Then of course Lee Mason went for a coffee.

Would that have changed the match? Who knows. But the point stands, it should have been an obvious call.

[cdav]

We don't get pens mate

[BoRed]

It would have been a harsh penalty, I never expected them to give it. Dawson should have been sent off, though (nothing to do with VAR, I know).