Author Topic: Liverpool v Brighton & Hove Albion Saturday 1st October 3pm (Read 15916 times)

El Lobo · « **Reply #160 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:50:53 pm »

I guess we’re just doing full match threads now? Fair.

clinical · « **Reply #161 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:50:56 pm »

Quote from: Nick110581 on October 1, 2022, 03:49:51 pm

Fabinho been so bad. The drop off from him is astonishing.

He's been overplayed because there's no one else.

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #162 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:50:57 pm »

Easily second best.

There's so much wrong but what's the point.

Jm55 · « **Reply #163 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:11 pm »

Remember, the only reason people criticise Trent defensively is because he’s absolutely world class.

Fuck me.

Cruiser · « **Reply #164 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:17 pm »

We urgently need another Royal death.

Izzy · « **Reply #165 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:25 pm »

Trent is positionally abysmal. The only way he can play is if he is shackled to the right. His drifting everywhere ruins our shape

Nick110581 · « **Reply #166 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:32 pm »

Quote from: Wabaloolah on October 1, 2022, 03:50:43 pm

That's as bad as it's been all year, very fortunate to be just a goal behind. Time for the boss to earn his corn

Maybe it’s time to go back to basics.

has gone odd · « **Reply #167 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:45 pm »

D fuckin minus! Can and must do better. Falling asleep in class for 30 mins is not acceptable!

We are looking okay going forward but a bit shambolic in defence, this has me worried a little and is becoming a pattern.

Bend It Like Aurelio · « **Reply #168 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:51 pm »

On the other side of the ledger, you have to give Brighton credit. That's some decent one touch football they played the first 20 minutes, probably a better stretch of play than we've had at any time this season.

You would hate to think what Potter can do for Chelsea if given some time.

wemmick · « **Reply #169 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:51:57 pm »

Lackluster. I have no idea what role Trent is playing. He is even more untethered from RB today than the other matches this season. What are Klopp and Lijnders thinking?

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #170 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:52:33 pm »

Quote from: MD1990 on October 1, 2022, 03:50:38 pm

we need to change the system.
Trent is basically playing a free role not as a RB

if so maybe go 3 at the back

yes I noticed that, when Konate is back then maybe we do that, we definitely need to do something quickly or top 4 is way out of reach

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #171 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:52:38 pm »

We have players to come off the bench. The biggest worry is our lack of reassurance at the back.

gazzalfc · « **Reply #172 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:52:46 pm »

Not often we get out played at Anfield

Trent been shite

Ultimate Bromance · « **Reply #173 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:52:49 pm »

This incarnation of the team is finished as a competitive force, they either don't have the legs or the attitude to go to the well again. The unlikely scenario where we get 3 points won't change the massive rebuild required.

Any chance King Charles is sick

robertobaggio37 · « **Reply #174 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:52:56 pm »

The break did wonders for us, we look much much better team thanks to that.

On serious note, had it not been for Alisson we’d be 4 nil down...

Feels like certain players are not up to standards but they’re still playing.

y2w902 · « **Reply #175 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:53:21 pm »

Why was I seeing Trent furthest forward at times, why is Matip positioned like a 3rd centre back on the right, it's a mess.

cdav · « **Reply #176 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:53:36 pm »

Be nice if we could win a second ball at some point. We are lacking any compactness at all, when we lose it there is wide open spaces either side of Fabinho

naYoRHa2b · « **Reply #177 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:54:06 pm »

Quote from: Ultimate Bromance on October 1, 2022, 03:52:49 pm

This incarnation of the team is finished as a competitive force, they either don't have the legs or the attitude to go to the well again. The unlikely scenario where we get 3 points won't change the massive rebuild required.

Any chance King Charles is sick

This is pretty much where I'm at. So many players are a spent force now.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #178 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:54:08 pm »

Words fail me how bad our defending was for both their goals.

1st goal- Not clearing our lines properly. Just lazy as fuck.

2nd goal - What was Trent even playing at there? Thought Alisson could have done better as well.

Hope Jurgen puts a rocket up their arses at HT.

Cesar · « **Reply #179 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:54:09 pm »

What in the name of God was that. I was ready to blame the sun in the eyes but it wouldn't explain the shite decision making in the final third. Also why was Trent trying for an assist in his own penalty area?

wemmick · « **Reply #180 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:54:12 pm »

Quote from: Izzy on October 1, 2022, 03:51:25 pm

Trent is positionally abysmal. The only way he can play is if he is shackled to the right. His drifting everywhere ruins our shape

It’s by design. For what purpose I don’t know, but Trent has never been this undisciplined. Klopp is asking him to do this.

skipper757 · « **Reply #181 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:54:15 pm »

Brighton should've been 3 up inside 15 minutes. Probably could've had another right before halftime there.

We're lucky to only be down 1. That certainly gives us a way back. Should have enough on the bench to get back in it and win.

Cafe De Paris · « **Reply #182 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:55:28 pm »

Dear me we look atrocious. I know we are covering old ground but we don’t have a midfield. It’s non existent. I grew up in an era when the first thing the team had to do was control the midfield. Then you control the match.

MD1990 · « **Reply #183 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:55:44 pm »

unless we get major investment in January we wont make top 4 imo.

Title is of course not realistic

Agent99 · « **Reply #184 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:04 pm »

The system is not helping Fabinho at all. He is not Kante who will run and plug gaps all day.

medley · « **Reply #185 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:12 pm »

Midfield not really influencing the game defensively or attacking wise. All 3 of them are flat and off their games today. Carvalho trying his best but another not influencing the game as much as we'd like. He's showing for the ball and making runs but not quite clicking on that flank with tsimikas. Need more interplay between those two (that's if he doesn't get subbed for Diaz)

redalways · « **Reply #186 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:19 pm »

Bring Diaz and Nunez on second half. Not going to pile in on the anti Trent bandwagon. He has produced a couple of good passes.

killer-heels · « **Reply #187 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:20 pm »

Quote from: jillc on October 1, 2022, 03:52:38 pm

We have players to come off the bench. The biggest worry is our lack of reassurance at the back.

The midfield is a bigger worry. We lost every second ball and they waltzed through us.

Jm55 · « **Reply #188 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:25 pm »

It’s the same shit every match.

The fact we’re now 2 months into the season and it’s still the same tells you there’s a serious issue, I’m just not sure what it is.

Always felt fanciful that Thiago returning would transform it, especially as he was on the pitch when we played similarly away at Fulham, albeit not for long.

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #189 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:56:42 pm »

Quote from: Nick110581 on October 1, 2022, 03:51:32 pm

Maybe it’s time to go back to basics.

we need to do something and quickly too, maybe 3 at the back or maybe get some more in midfield as we are being overrun at the moment.

Alisson the only one to come out of that half with any credit.

I try not to criticise in the middle of games but that really was woeful, the score flattered us at 0-2 to be fair

Mighty_Red · « **Reply #190 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:57:26 pm »

Regardless of whether we manage to scrape a point or 3 from this game, it won't gloss over some serious issues with the team as a collective. Easy to look at individuals but I see too many for it to be just a personell problem.

Just not understanding our approach, we're slow to every ball, every touch and pass is half arsed and telegraphed. It's obvious we are not training with anything like the required intensity, as we have zero intensity on the pitch.

Intls are not an excuse here.

Magz50 · « **Reply #191 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:57:33 pm »

Main Problems with us this season, midfield is too old and doesn’t have the pace to press like we did in 2018, Salah & firmino also lost a step & sharpness, Trent is being allowed too much freedom so is leaving massive holes that our midfield just don’t have the legs to cover. Matip isn’t the answer to fill right back when Trent is gone. All our young players need more time to develop. So we’re stuck in that transition phase. We need new blood ready to play that are young/fast enough for Klopp’s system.

mikeb58 · « **Reply #192 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:58:43 pm »

A 4-3 beckons!

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #193 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:58:55 pm »

Quote from: killer-heels on October 1, 2022, 03:56:20 pm

The midfield is a bigger worry. We lost every second ball and they waltzed through us.

Even the like of Van Dijk is not looking good at the moment. It's not just the midfield but people panicking at the back as well. It's an all-round problem at the moment. The biggest issue for me is where we are using Trent, I don't get what we're doing with him anymore.

Wabaloolah · « **Reply #194 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:02 pm »

Quote from: killer-heels on October 1, 2022, 03:56:20 pm

The midfield is a bigger worry. We lost every second ball and they waltzed through us.

I think the midfield is a cause of our issues at the back, at least partially, Fabinho looks a shadow of his former self and Hendo is just running round like a headless chicken. If we don't get top 4 though, not only will we have less money to invest but also the likes of Bellingham won't consider coming here.

Chakan · « **Reply #195 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:13 pm »

Quote from: mikeb58 on October 1, 2022, 03:58:43 pm

A 3-3 beckons!

Yay a draw with the mighty Brighton.

Nick110581 · « **Reply #196 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:25 pm »

Quote from: Wabaloolah on October 1, 2022, 03:56:42 pm

we need to do something and quickly too, maybe 3 at the back or maybe get some more in midfield as we are being overrun at the moment.

Alisson the only one to come out of that half with any credit.

I try not to criticise in the middle of games but that really was woeful, the score flattered us at 0-2 to be fair

Just play Trent in his position and drop Fabinho

Dree · « **Reply #197 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:37 pm »

We don’t have the squad to play a high 4-3-3 right now. Any manager worth a toss will work that out against us.

Level on points with Bournemouth

Dree · « **Reply #198 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:55 pm »

Quote from: Nick110581 on October 1, 2022, 03:59:25 pm

Just play Trent in his position and drop Fabinho

For who?! Henderson is terrible!

Shepnois · « **Reply #199 on:** October 1, 2022, 03:59:56 pm »

We look a right mess again, even if we can come back into this game and get something we have major problems which will keep haunting us this season. Major investment is needed into this side, midfield needs an overhaul. The positions that Trent is being asked to take up are absurd and its doing him and the side no favours. Worrying times but we've got firepower off the bench that could save us today.