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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #640 on: December 18, 2018, 06:29:36 pm »
A really bad one.

We want him to develop, not slog around on 3G pitches playing bog standard football.

I think we might consider giving them Markovic, and that’s about it. Maybe Bogdan if we still own him. Or Brad Jones, he’s probably still on the books.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #641 on: December 18, 2018, 07:24:23 pm »
Solanke is far too good for the Scottish league...
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #642 on: December 19, 2018, 06:15:20 pm »
I think we might consider giving them Markovic, and that’s about it. Maybe Bogdan if we still own him. Or Brad Jones, he’s probably still on the books.
Why do you think we wouldn't give them another player bar the ones mentioned? We have alot of players in our u23 team that the Scottish league might be the highest level they ever get to even similar to how it was for Michael Ngoo.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #643 on: December 19, 2018, 07:05:39 pm »
Why do you think we wouldn't give them another player bar the ones mentioned? We have alot of players in our u23 team that the Scottish league might be the highest level they ever get to even similar to how it was for Michael Ngoo.

Style of play doesn’t look even close for a start

And since Ejaria has come back, all we’ve heard is how he didn’t have the heart to handle Scotland, wasn’t tough enough etc etc. I can’t imagine we’re loaning kids out to toughen them up and the sort of players that seem to thrive up there we really don’t produce, thankfully. Plus yeah...the abuse doesn’t help.
If he's being asked to head the ball too frequently - which isn't exactly his specialty - it could affect his ear and cause an infection. Especially if the ball hits him on the ear directly.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #644 on: December 19, 2018, 08:04:12 pm »
I've seen every single game he has played in, I'm a season ticket holder.

I don't know where this top 5 ranking comes from. He plays as our number ten and yet he only has 2 goals and 1 assist in 29 games. As I've said earlier he sort of flatters to deceive and definitely reminds me of Nathan Oduwa. He has nice touches and is a tidy enough player at times, although sometimes he looks a little awkward, but ultimately he doesn't really carry much of a threat. The final ball just isn't there (His goal in Russia was very nice though  :) ).

Here's part of an interview from Gerrard about him:

Gerrard added: “Ovie’s a Liverpool player, and I’d like to thank them for having the opportunity to have him here for half the season.

“Am I disappointed he’s gone? Yes. Do I think it’s the right thing? No, because he had an incredible opportunity here. I accept the decision, but I’m sad over it.

“I wish Ejaria all the best, he’s a nice kid, very quiet. He told me it was 100 per cent football reasons, and I have to respect that.

“But I’m never going to stand in the way of a player who’s not happy at Rangers and not settled.

“I’ve got people here who are desperate to wear the shirt, and who would run through a brick wall to wear it

“I don’t think it will affect us getting players from Liverpool.

“I’ve just sent one player back who played 25 games, 11 of them in Europe. He wore the No10 jersey for Rangers playing in front of 51,000 people

“We’ve got another Liverpool player in Ryan Kent who has played about 20 games, and who has re-ignited his career after two bad loans, and who I want fit as soon as possible.

"Kent is having the time of his life here. But youngsters are all different, they have different characters.”

Didn’t realize you were a season ticket holder , top 5 ranking is where I think he is from the few games I’ve seen



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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #645 on: December 19, 2018, 08:56:03 pm »
Solanke won't be going to Rangers. :lmao

There's multiple PL clubs sniffing around looking for a nice loan in January, he's far too good for the SPL.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #646 on: December 19, 2018, 10:26:44 pm »
Solanke won't be going to Rangers. :lmao

There's multiple PL clubs sniffing around looking for a nice loan in January, he's far too good for the SPL.

I think sending players to Southampton may be beneficial with the new manager.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #647 on: December 21, 2018, 01:11:20 pm »
Kane signs a new deal and stays with Doncaster for the rest of the season.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #648 on: December 21, 2018, 01:29:48 pm »
Kane signs a new deal and stays with Doncaster for the rest of the season.
Bit surprised he signed, but good for us, Doncaster and hopefully him long-term.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #649 on: December 21, 2018, 01:55:32 pm »
I think sending players to Southampton may be beneficial with the new manager.

it'd have to be a sale to Southampton if it happened in January, they already have one Liverpool player on loan.

Palace or Huddersfield maybe, would be a decent loan.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #650 on: December 21, 2018, 02:32:27 pm »
I'd rather Solanke was managed by Gerrard than Hodgson. How can you wish that fate on the poor lad?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #651 on: December 21, 2018, 02:44:47 pm »
The Doncaster fans seem delighted with Kane staying the season and think he could be key in their promotion chase.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #652 on: December 21, 2018, 03:11:06 pm »
it'd have to be a sale to Southampton if it happened in January, they already have one Liverpool player on loan.

Palace or Huddersfield maybe, would be a decent loan.

surely not the owl. with wagner mates with klopp, I do think it is a better option even though Huddersfield seem to be struggling a bit. 

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #653 on: December 21, 2018, 03:13:15 pm »
surely not the owl. with wagner mates with klopp, I do think it is a better option even though Huddersfield seem to be struggling a bit.

I know everyone hates Hodgson, for good reason, but Palace aren't a bad team, they shouldn't be struggling as much as they are for sure though, but if he got playing time there, dont see it as a bad move at all despite the manager. Huddersfield are rather poor, but he'd get to play so still a good option for a loan, both would work really I reckon.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #654 on: December 21, 2018, 04:04:01 pm »
I wonder what Hodgson would teach him, as compared to what he would learn under Beale and Gerrard. I'm assuming Wagner's training must be rather more progressive.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #655 on: December 21, 2018, 04:16:39 pm »
I wonder what Hodgson would teach him, as compared to what he would learn under Beale and Gerrard. I'm assuming Wagner's training must be rather more progressive.

I would think playing time goes above teaching for a few months this season if he gets a loan. He's had plenty of great coaching the last couple years, getting playing time at a high level would be more beneficial at this point, and again, as much as we hate Hodgson, I don't think he's going to 'damage' a player by his teaching in a few months. I have no idea how good a coach Gerrard is and if he's any better an option than Hodgson, but I'd rather see the better young Liverpool players in the prem or the championship rather than at Rangers.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #656 on: December 21, 2018, 07:02:19 pm »
I wonder what Hodgson would teach him, as compared to what he would learn under Beale and Gerrard. I'm assuming Wagner's training must be rather more progressive.

Hudders would be a great choice because they often dominate possession- as they did v Newcastle in the last game - without scoring. Same v Arse away, where they enjoyed plenty of ball but no goals. It would be a great test for Solanke.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #657 on: December 22, 2018, 01:37:07 am »


Style of play doesn’t look even close for a start

And since Ejaria has come back, all we’ve heard is how he didn’t have the heart to handle Scotland, wasn’t tough enough etc etc. I can’t imagine we’re loaning kids out to toughen them up and the sort of players that seem to thrive up there we really don’t produce, thankfully. Plus yeah...the abuse doesn’t help.

We loaned them two players at the start of the season style of play can't be much of a concern. Also its not like a player goes through his career only playing the one system they need to adapt to make it as a pro.

VVD thrived in Scotland I wish we produced someone like him.

Abuse is uncalled for if that's what happened. I read he got abuse on twitter and so do lots of other players with the idiots on twitter as is Facebook. However I can't remember the last time a player  publicly quit on a loan club can you?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #658 on: December 22, 2018, 01:39:11 am »


it'd have to be a sale to Southampton if it happened in January, they already have one Liverpool player on loan.

Palace or Huddersfield maybe, would be a decent loan.
Palace would be a poor choice imo what with Benteke returning from injury at the end of December.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #659 on: December 22, 2018, 02:12:20 am »
Palace would be a poor choice imo what with Benteke returning from injury at the end of December.

Benteke has been dogshit since Hodgson went there, not sure if that makes a case for sending Solanke there or keeping him as far away as possible.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #660 on: December 22, 2018, 03:48:56 am »
Palace would be a poor choice imo what with Benteke returning from injury at the end of December.

Benteke can’t be much better then Solanke, if he’s even better then him at all. 

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #661 on: December 23, 2018, 04:01:19 pm »
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #662 on: December 24, 2018, 02:18:14 pm »
For all the talk about style, I think I'd rather Solanke get a few months of football playing alongside Zaha and Townsend than whoever Huddersfield have supporting their strikers.  I like Wagner a lot, I wouldn't mind if we did loan to Solanke to Huddersfield, I just think Solanke might benefit from playing alongside better attacking players at Palace if it came down to a choice between the two.

And no one should be worrying about Benteke as potential competition for him if he did go to Palace.

Just hope we're not even contemplating letting him go to Rangers, if we are contemplating letting him go given Sturridge's issue with the FA still unresolved and Origi's future is also uncertain.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #663 on: December 24, 2018, 03:55:44 pm »
If Solanke is off on loan it must mean that Origi stays for the rest of the year. Can't see them both departing in Jan.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #664 on: December 24, 2018, 04:34:34 pm »
I can't see FSG allowing our players to be touched by Hodgson, barring an absolute insistence by Klopp. Like the rest of us, they're likely still waking up in a cold sweat from nightmares about his time here. John Henry can't stand him. I'm sure they think he'd ruin our players.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #665 on: December 24, 2018, 04:37:47 pm »
I can't see FSG allowing our players to be touched by Hodgson, barring an absolute insistence by Klopp. Like the rest of us, they're likely still waking up in a cold sweat from nightmares about his time here. John Henry can't stand him. I'm sure they think he'd ruin our players.

I think Palace would be great move for him.

They create more than Huddersfield and he will be playing with better players.


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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #666 on: December 24, 2018, 04:40:30 pm »
If Solanke is off on loan it must mean that Origi stays for the rest of the year. Can't see them both departing in Jan.

Think that depends. If a team offers decent money for Origi then I think we sell.

We'll have Brewster coming back soon and we've the Big Cude who can play in the front line.

Plus players like Duncan who is knocking on doors already.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #667 on: December 25, 2018, 12:26:44 pm »


Think that depends. If a team offers decent money for Origi then I think we sell.

We'll have Brewster coming back soon and we've the Big Cude who can play in the front line.

Plus players like Duncan who is knocking on doors already.
Duncan has only made one appearances for our u23s he's miles off the first team. Brewster hasn't touched a football for a year come January he may never return the same player. I have no idea who big cude is?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #668 on: December 25, 2018, 12:31:57 pm »


For all the talk about style, I think I'd rather Solanke get a few months of football playing alongside Zaha and Townsend than whoever Huddersfield have supporting their strikers.  I like Wagner a lot, I wouldn't mind if we did loan to Solanke to Huddersfield, I just think Solanke might benefit from playing alongside better attacking players at Palace if it came down to a choice between the two.

And no one should be worrying about Benteke as potential competition for him if he did go to Palace.

Just hope we're not even contemplating letting him go to Rangers, if we are contemplating letting him go given Sturridge's issue with the FA still unresolved and Origi's future is also uncertain.
Zaha and Townshend aren't supporting the strikers they are the strikers!

Benteke started the season as crystal palaces main striker and players there until he got injured. What makes you think a striker who got one goal in 21 appearances would replace him? Solanke looked far off being a Premier league level player last season.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #669 on: December 25, 2018, 01:23:47 pm »
Duncan has only made one appearances for our u23s he's miles off the first team. Brewster hasn't touched a football for a year come January he may never return the same player. I have no idea who big cude is?

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #670 on: December 25, 2018, 02:13:51 pm »
Duncan has only made one appearances for our u23s he's miles off the first team. Brewster hasn't touched a football for a year come January he may never return the same player. I have no idea who big cude is?

Sorry big cube.

Point is we have back up and if a decent offer comes in for Origi I believe we will sell. Origi hardly comes on now so that spot could go to Brewster who will be back soon.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #671 on: December 25, 2018, 02:40:34 pm »
I can't see FSG allowing our players to be touched by Hodgson, barring an absolute insistence by Klopp. Like the rest of us, they're likely still waking up in a cold sweat from nightmares about his time here. John Henry can't stand him. I'm sure they think he'd ruin our players.

I think that FSG would trust Klopp and Edwards to make that decision regardless of what they think about the manager/club of the team that any potential players would be loaned to. 

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #672 on: December 25, 2018, 02:41:51 pm »
Think that depends. If a team offers decent money for Origi then I think we sell.

We'll have Brewster coming back soon and we've the Big Cude who can play in the front line.

Plus players like Duncan who is knocking on doors already.

Is Brewster really ready for first team action?  Is he even in full training yet?  After a year out I can't imagine that he'd be playing in anything other then U23 games this year. 

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #673 on: December 25, 2018, 06:21:06 pm »
Is Brewster really ready for first team action?  Is he even in full training yet?  After a year out I can't imagine that he'd be playing in anything other then U23 games this year. 

Of course he will need match time with the Under 23's but he will train with the 1st team when fit.

You sell players to create room as well for youth and you put them on the bench for experience e.g. Folden at City.


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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #674 on: December 25, 2018, 08:05:19 pm »
Of course he will need match time with the Under 23's but he will train with the 1st team when fit.

You sell players to create room as well for youth and you put them on the bench for experience e.g. Folden at City.

I guess I don’t think that Brewster is as close to getting match time as others are.  It doesn’t really make sense to me to sell anyone this year if he’s not going to be fit enough/good enough yet to get match time with the first team. 

Totally understand your point though. 

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #675 on: December 26, 2018, 10:44:08 am »
Zaha and Townshend aren't supporting the strikers they are the strikers!

Because the strikers they've got are all crap, hence why they're interested in Solanke.

Benteke started the season as crystal palaces main striker and players there until he got injured. What makes you think a striker who got one goal in 21 appearances would replace him? Solanke looked far off being a Premier league level player last season.

The fact that Benteke is a shadow of the player he was a couple of years ago.

And Solanke didn't look far off being a PL level player last season.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #676 on: December 26, 2018, 04:14:12 pm »
Harry Wilson just scored another incredible free-kick for Derby.

He makes it look routine.

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #677 on: December 26, 2018, 05:01:38 pm »
Harry Wilson just scored another incredible free-kick for Derby.

He makes it look routine.
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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #678 on: December 26, 2018, 05:37:20 pm »
Harry Wilson just scored another incredible free-kick for Derby.

He makes it look routine.

https://twitter.com/anfieldhq/status/1077961321776336897?s=21

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Re: Loan Watch 2018-2019
« Reply #679 on: December 26, 2018, 05:41:18 pm »
Another worldie from Harry