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RAWK has a policy of accepting certain media sources when starting threads on news heard or written about the club.

This list is not exhaustive but gives clear guidence to what's allowed and not.

Twitter sources are not allowed unless from an official site and really, unless its the madness of the Transfer Forum, you shouldn't be starting a new thread based on a tweet anyway.

Clearly as Jon Hall's thread in this board states, quoting from the Sun will get you banned/muted at least and is just a no-no.


This is the list as posted in the Transfer Forum when open:


I really shouldn't need to say this, but, the following sources will be instantly deleted:
  • The Sun

The following (not an exhaustive list) could be summarily locked:
  • Daily Mail
  • The metro
  • Daily Express
  • Daily Mail
  • The Star
  • The Daily Star
  • Daily Mail
  • Talk Sport
  • Daily Mail
  • community.footballpools.com
  • Daily Mail
  • TeamTalk
  • Daily Mail
  • Tribal Football
  • Daily Mail
  • Sportsnetwork
  • Daily Mail
  • Goal.com
  • Daily Mail
  • fansfc.com
  • Daily Mail


Don't post anything from KopTalk, because Duncan Oldham claims copyright on it. Besides, why on earth would you want to read it?

The BBC Transfer Gossip page, and it's equivalent in the quality papers does not magically launder the story. A Sun story is a Sun story, even if the BBC report that the Sun are reporting something.

So what can you post?

liverpoolfc.tv is clearly definitive (apart from the press round up)
The Echo / Daily Post (unless it is reporting other papers' stories)

Beyond those two, I am afraid you need to think. Read the story. Does it have any quotes? A story quoting a named source is stronger than a story with an unnamed source, which is better than a story without a source. Where is the story printed? The Guardian has more credibility than the Star for instance. Is the story realistic? We are not going to buy Messi, he is not for sale, we couldn't afford him if he was. In summary, is the story credible? If it isn't, don't post it, because it will be locked.




I'd like to add the following to that list:
Talksport Radio
The Spectator

Also the Times has a paywall so quoting reports from there is likely to infringe copyright and get us into trouble.

thanks.
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #1 on: September 4, 2012, 06:11:58 pm »
This is in the Feedback Section but probably would do as well to be in here.
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #2 on: September 6, 2012, 05:53:17 pm »
LFC.Tv or Liverpoolrumours.com  ::) LOL
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #3 on: October 15, 2012, 05:53:33 pm »
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #5 on: February 13, 2014, 03:47:31 pm »
Sky Sports only, tends to be my "who to believe" rule!

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #6 on: February 13, 2014, 04:55:29 pm »
Sky Sports only, tends to be my "who to believe" rule!

Really?! Skysports is mainly bollocks.
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #7 on: November 6, 2015, 08:22:24 am »
how about Indykilla on Twotter?  :tosser

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Hello mods/staff was going start a thread about a Telegraph article which happens to quote and make reference to The S*n. Given the magnitude about what this is about it is almost certainly going to be discussed by reds at some stage but wanted to clear it here first.

Below is/was my intended post:

Apologies if already posted but I was interested to know what people's thoughts on the below were? Is this the final lethal injection to the domestic game, even the game as we know it? Or, is this a perfectly sensible direction to take for a club like ours in order to secure our future among the elite given how increasingly competitive the Premier League (and therefore how difficult Champions League qualification) has become?

**Warning: The below is a link to a Telegraph article which shows and references the back page of The S*n. Due to the potential magnitude of the implications (I'm sure this is going to be discussed among reds at some point) and the fact that this is a Telegraph article, I thought it would be ok to post. Sincere apologies in advance if I'm wrong about that.**

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If the story has legs it will be reported without sourcing the Sun. We just do not allow Sun stories, even indirectly.

Thanks for asking first though.

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2017, 05:57:33 pm »
What about Bleacher Report? There is a fantastic article by Simon Hughes in there I would like to link, but would prefer to make sure its acceptable first.
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2017, 11:21:03 am »
What about Bleacher Report? There is a fantastic article by Simon Hughes in there I would like to link, but would prefer to make sure its acceptable first.

If the article is good, and not from the Sun, we can be flexible.

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2017, 09:35:39 pm »
If the article is good, and not from the Sun, we can be flexible.

Thanks I will read it again and check that.
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #15 on: February 6, 2018, 12:19:20 pm »
Still plenty of Daily Mail links being posted.

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Still plenty of Daily Mail links being posted.

 :butt
Report it if you see it :wave

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Report it if you see it :wave

I do so everytime
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2018, 12:53:50 pm »
It shouldn't be about the publication/paper but more about the author/journalist.

For e.g. a Dominic King article in the Daily Mail is going to be far more reliable that a random journalist's article in the Mirror.

Goal.com is not deemed reliable, however the Liverpool correspondent for Goal is Neil Jones, formally of the Echo, therefore a Goal.com article by Neil Jones is going to be highly credible.

And there are many more examples.

Author/journalist not the publication.

Obviously the Sun is an exception.

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2018, 08:17:37 pm »
Still seeing far too many links to Daily Mail articles.

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2018, 08:19:12 pm »
It shouldn't be about the publication/paper but more about the author/journalist.

For e.g. a Dominic King article in the Daily Mail is going to be far more reliable that a random journalist's article in the Mirror.


Author/journalist not the publication.



It's not about the reliability of an article in the case of the Daily Mail, it's the fact that it is a fascist rag
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #21 on: September 20, 2018, 05:41:39 pm »
Still seeing far too many links to Daily Mail articles.

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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #22 on: November 4, 2018, 10:03:59 pm »
RAWK has a policy of accepting certain media sources when starting threads on news heard or written about the club.

This list is not exhaustive but gives clear guidence to what's allowed and not.

Twitter sources are not allowed unless from an official site and really, unless its the madness of the Transfer Forum, you shouldn't be starting a new thread based on a tweet anyway.

Clearly as Jon Hall's thread in this board states, quoting from the Sun will get you banned/muted at least and is just a no-no.


This is the list as posted in the Transfer Forum when open:



I'd like to add
Talksport Radio to that list.

Also the Times has a paywall so quoting reports from there is likely to infringe copyright and get us into trouble.

thanks.
What about Joe.com, and/or anything by Melissa Reddy? Are they acceptable sources?
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #23 on: November 8, 2018, 05:21:54 pm »
Melissa Reddy is a highly credible and respected journalist so using her as a source on this site is fine.

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Still seeing far too many links to the Daily Mail  :no
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Still seeing loads of links to the Daily mail
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Re: Acceptable Sources and Unacceptable Sources when posting Media Stories.
« Reply #27 on: November 1, 2019, 06:07:52 pm »
FFS when are people going to learn.

No daily mail links on this site
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