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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9880 on: April 6, 2021, 10:40:29 pm »
This is what happens when Jurgen reads the Internet - don't do it boss. He's a myth.

Shite, he'd probably been reading my posts bigging up Naby lad.

That was the chance to seize a big game by the scruff of its neck. Great talent, but that big game mentality probably isn't there sadly.

But if there's no rhythm and consistency to his play, simply because his career so far has been so stop/start, then it really isn't surprising when the arse falls out on games like these.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9881 on: April 6, 2021, 10:40:48 pm »
He was walking after 20mins pal. If you can't see that then i don't know what to tell you.
Correct..for a player who has been here 3 years and yet to establish himself in the team you would think he would be busting his balls to stay in it,but as you say he was just jogging about the pitch as the game passed him by...the fact Klopp didn’t even look at him going off says it all.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9882 on: April 6, 2021, 10:42:11 pm »
He's just so slow which doesn't help when your main midfield options (young Jones aside) are rather pedestrian too. He had one good dribble where he beat a couple of players but physically the injuries have really halted him.


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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9883 on: April 6, 2021, 10:42:35 pm »
Was no worse than anyone else the first half. They all looked like they were playing the wrong sport or something. Surprised he started ahead of Thiago.

Agreed but in months and seasons to come if we don't overturn the deficit he will become the scapegoat because of the manner of his subbing. There was far worse than him in the first half. Feel for him.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9884 on: April 6, 2021, 10:42:37 pm »
Shite, he'd probably been reading my posts bigging up Naby lad.

That was the chance to seize a big game by the scruff of its neck. Great talent, but that big game mentality probably isn't there sadly.

But if there's no rhythm and consistency to his play, simply because his career so far has been so stop/start, then it really isn't surprising when the arse falls out on games like these.

He’s played good in the big games I’ve remember him having a chance to play.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9885 on: April 6, 2021, 10:44:40 pm »
He'll be great once he gets a run of games.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9886 on: April 6, 2021, 10:52:23 pm »
He'll be great once he gets a run of games.

2018: "He'll be great once he gets a run of games."
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That's been the issue with his entire Liverpool career.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9887 on: April 6, 2021, 10:54:00 pm »
Nah, you're alright.
You're obviously upset and will no doubt realise when you've calmed down that there was nothing disgraceful about his performance and you are overreacting.

Talking bollocks and smug to boot. Dream combo.

Others, like Wijnaldum, were just as bad in the first half, but that doesn't give Keita any mitigation. He was atrocious. And no matter how many crap performances someone like Wijnaldum gives before the end of the season, he'll leave with our best wishes as a legend. Keita on the other hand has specialised in flashes of ability surrounded by extended periods of being out, punctuated by flattering to deceive. I feel sorry for him as I'm sure he's a good guy and wishes it could work here, but it just hasn't. It can't be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a flop now.

And the biggest reason people are understandably and justifiably angry at him is because he never in a million years deseved to be starting that game. And when given that golden chance ahead of bona fide superstars like Thiago (or even Jones and Milner), he looked like he couldn't be arsed.

He'd be a goner if we could get any decent money for him, but we probably can't. If he stays, he should only be playing against the bottom 10 to save better players' legs. But then, he probably won't be available when we need him to do that anyway.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9888 on: April 6, 2021, 10:54:43 pm »
Hasn't got what it takes unfortunately. Time to offload
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9889 on: April 6, 2021, 10:59:05 pm »
Could have taken either him or Wijnaldum off at the point he went off. Neither had had any impact on the game up to that point and were equally as bad.

Simply though it was the wrong choice of midfield from the off.

Yup.  Wrong midfield and wrong tactics to start the game. 

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9890 on: April 6, 2021, 11:02:22 pm »
One of the most overhyped player ever to play for Liverpool!
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9891 on: April 6, 2021, 11:02:28 pm »
He'll be great once he gets a run of games.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9892 on: April 6, 2021, 11:05:13 pm »
Defo fishing

Might be fishing but he may have been great if he had a run of games. But when you're saying that for a player for the best part of three years, then the chance of development is gone sadly.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9893 on: April 6, 2021, 11:05:54 pm »
Talking bollocks and smug to boot. Dream combo.

Others, like Wijnaldum, were just as bad in the first half, but that doesn't give Keita any mitigation. He was atrocious. And no matter how many crap performances someone like Wijnaldum gives before the end of the season, he'll leave with our best wishes as a legend. Keita on the other hand has specialised in flashes of ability surrounded by extended periods of being out, punctuated by flattering to deceive. I feel sorry for him as I'm sure he's a good guy and wishes it could work here, but it just hasn't. It can't be dressed up as anything other than a bit of a flop now.

And the biggest reason people are understandably and justifiably angry at him is because he never in a million years deseved to be starting that game. And when given that golden chance ahead of bona fide superstars like Thiago (or even Jones and Milner), he looked like he couldn't be arsed.

He'd be a goner if we could get any decent money for him, but we probably can't. If he stays, he should only be playing against the bottom 10 to save better players' legs. But then, he probably won't be available when we need him to do that anyway.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9894 on: April 6, 2021, 11:06:51 pm »
problem is that when someone says "Others were also bad".... most of the others have been absolute warriors for the last 4 years as well. They have some credit in the bank (as was mentioned).

He was supposed to be a game changer for us...

(he was the chosen one)

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9895 on: April 6, 2021, 11:10:06 pm »
He's had atrocious luck with injuries but for me tonight summed up his overall performances on the pitch over his Liverpool career. Some really bright moments and some hustle and bustle and on an individual level you could argue that he was actually the least bad of that midfield three. But he just seems on a completely different wavelength to the rest of his teammates with and without the ball. There's been games where we've been able to mitigate our way around that and he's justified his place just through those individual contributions but in the end you are always going to get games like tonight where he becomes a liability.

To be honest he reminds me a little bit of Moreno - plenty of talent, apparently popular with his teammates, you never felt too disappointed to see him on the team-sheet but in the end his inability to fit into the teams patterns and positional indiscipline outweighed the good points. To continue that comparison I think we may have just seen Keita's equivalent of Moreno's performance in the Seville final where he really let us down in a massive game. Assuming we can get a decent offer for him in the summer it's difficult to see a way back for him.

If he does leave and makes the right decision in terms of destination I wouldn't be at all surprised to see him really prosper - if he can stay fit there is an exceptional player in there for a club at a slightly lower level that is willing to build a midfield around him and get other less talented players to cover for his weaknesses. But for me he's done nothing to suggest that he is good enough to justify us making those kinds of changes to try and get the best out of him.

On a personal level I really feel for him - as above he's had awful luck with injuries and tonight really took one for the team in being the one to get dragged off before HT when there were plenty of others who were as bad if not worse. 

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9896 on: April 6, 2021, 11:25:21 pm »
After some flashes of brilliance blighted by early injuries, his run at the end of the 18-19 season (before another injury) was probably his best.  Great end product during that stretch too.  But just hasn't been able to stay fit since.

When our squad was fit and firing during 19-20, you didn't really feel the impact of Keita's lack of fitness or performances (and we didn't need it).  But unfortunately, during this season when we need our squad players to stake a claim for spots, both him and Ox and struggled badly for fitness and haven't really made an impact when they've played (nowhere near the amount that Jones has made, for example).

Keita's still only 26, but time is ticking on the window for him be a starting 11 player here going forward.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9897 on: April 6, 2021, 11:33:17 pm »
He was supposed to be a game changer for us...


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Re: Naby Keita Watch
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9899 on: April 6, 2021, 11:39:21 pm »
 I dunno about all the 'he wasn't the worst ' comments...Gini had a very poor 1st half and Fab and Mane weren't great either but i was watching Naby with utter disbelief at how shocking he was

He had a single promising run at the defence. His positioning was terrible, failed to support TAA again and again, awful decision making, couldn't find a red shirt from more than 5 yards away, looked liked he couldn't care less to me

It's on Klopp for me mainly, bizarre decision to leave both Bobby and Thiago out. Having said that Naby let the team down in a big way. I've been 100% behind Keita but enough is enough now
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9900 on: April 6, 2021, 11:40:15 pm »
Getting hooked before half time in a high profile game is never good.

Thought he was as good/ bad as everyone else to be fair
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9901 on: April 6, 2021, 11:41:00 pm »
I was surprised he started on the right of midfield as opposed to the left side to be honest, seemed like a strange decision to start of with.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9902 on: April 6, 2021, 11:43:13 pm »
I was surprised he started on the right of midfield as opposed to the left side to be honest, seemed like a strange decision to start of with.

Don’t think we can use that excuse. He was a shite as the rest of the midfield. Truly awful.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9903 on: April 7, 2021, 12:00:34 am »
Don’t think we can use that excuse. He was a shite as the rest of the midfield. Truly awful.

Yeah but thought it would make sense for Wijinaldum to provide cover for Trent, no? That’s what happened when Thiago came on, plus I always feel Keita is more suited to the left side of central midfield also but that’s just a hunch.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9904 on: April 7, 2021, 01:21:36 am »
Might be fishing but he may have been great if he had a run of games. But when you're saying that for a player for the best part of three years, then the chance of development is gone sadly.
He hasn't had a run of games because he's a crock. When he has played he's done fuck all. He looks half decent when the game is already won.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9905 on: April 7, 2021, 01:22:20 am »
Klopp confirming he was taken off for being shite

He was that good in your opinion?

I think he's just played his last game for us.
Didn't mark, didn't press and didn't show for the ball.
And they were his better attributes.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9906 on: April 7, 2021, 01:27:39 am »
I don’t know.  Maybe Keita will never work out here at LFC.  No one has a 100% transfer record.  He won’t be the first or last.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9907 on: April 7, 2021, 01:34:51 am »
Needs replacing. His time is up. 
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9908 on: April 7, 2021, 01:34:55 am »
I don’t know.  Maybe Keita will never work out here at LFC.  No one has a 100% transfer record.  He won’t be the first or last.

True, but we simply can't afford £50m flops like Keita.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9909 on: April 7, 2021, 01:47:51 am »
Hasn't got what it takes unfortunately. Time to offload

This plain and simple.  Thought it was an absolute head scratcher that he started before Thiago.  Even if he was starting in a midfield three with Fabinho and Thiago I’d rather have Jones in there ahead of him.  Time to move him on in the summer. 

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9910 on: April 7, 2021, 02:00:56 am »
True, but we simply can't afford £50m flops like Keita.

Consistently, no.  As a one off?  He still improves the squad as a whole and is probably better than any bench option for midfield that I can remember as a fan.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9911 on: April 7, 2021, 02:36:48 am »
Wow. He did not do so well but the call to sell him etc might be a bit too much. Klopp wanted someone to run at the ageing midfield. It was most probably Keita, Ox, Shaq or Firmino for that role. Keita was choosen and he was rusty and poor no doubt but the future Barcelona player was not playing any better in the first half. He even captained the side. No idea why we are even still playing him every single week and making him captain.

Anyway back to Keita, he will be needed for the return match. Sideway passing will not be any useful against Madrid's experienced midfield. Lets throw the kitchen sink at them. 2-0 or 4-1 is not impossible. Let's start believing again.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9912 on: April 7, 2021, 06:41:52 am »
Getting hooked before half time in a high profile game is never good.

Thought he was as good/ bad as everyone else to be fair

The only other time I can remember Klopp doing this at LFC was Lovren vs Spurs - he'll only do it when a player has been truly dire and all over the show. Lovren came back from it and contributed for another 2 and a half seasons, but honestly he's mentally stronger than Keita, and not as injury prone either. I doubt this is the end of Keita (mainly because, as I've said before, no one will pay decent money for him now), but I think it might be the last time Klopp looks to him in any big game against real quality.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9913 on: April 7, 2021, 06:44:21 am »
In retrospect, I would have wished he never got the No.8 shirt. A lot of weight was thus placed on his shoulders. It seems that just when he's fit for a while (not ran to the ground by his old national coach, that c*nt Put), he's hesitant to make the step up. I feel that today was the game that broke him...
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9914 on: April 7, 2021, 07:34:03 am »
No-one should be singling out Naby when the whole team basically never got out of 1st gear in the first half.   He was subbed but there were others were a lot worse than him.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9915 on: April 7, 2021, 07:36:46 am »
I think for me with a perspective of last nights game only, I was surprised he was included in the starting line up and the game showed that he was well off the pace somewhat when it came to hunting the ball down. Whether it was Juergen Klopp expecting way more possession or not then what we had I don’t know, but whatever the plan was it was hideously exposed during that half.

I would play him again on Saturday though, if only to allow rest for other players for the second leg next week. However it’s looking doubtful that he’ll be here long term though...

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9916 on: April 7, 2021, 07:47:33 am »
Done nothing to warrant a start yet he starts our biggest match of the season.

He didn’t look bothered.
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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9917 on: April 7, 2021, 07:49:31 am »
I love all the, “you can tell his attitude from how he looked” shouts.Utter nonsense.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9918 on: April 7, 2021, 08:17:43 am »
It was a shit one from Klopp really. The game seemed set up for Thiago, his composure on the ball and experience in the competition would have been useful during the opening half hour. Dropping him for someone who has hardly played all season in such a big game against such capable opposition makes little sense. If he wanted to reward his displays in training, he should have left it for Aston Villa. Thiago could have played both legs instead.

I do feel for Naby. He’s never really got going.

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Re: Naby Keita Watch
« Reply #9919 on: April 7, 2021, 08:24:19 am »
Id sell him if only to stop that cringe Naby Lad meme.