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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #400 on: March 3, 2021, 12:11:14 am »
I've never been out late enough in skies dark enough to be honest.  I've only ever seen the Milky Way a couple of times, and that was in Wales during Uni way back in 1996.  I'd hoped to see it when I went camping in the US back in 2016, but the sodding moon was waxing. :butt
It's often the way when you set out to see something. We spent a week in Iceland (the country, not the supermarket) hoping to see the Northern Lights. It was cloudy all week.  :butt

Shooting stars aren't that difficult to see. As I said, we often see them when watching telly with the blinds open sat indoors near Sefton Park, and we aren't even looking for them. They just catch your eye if they are bright enough.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #401 on: March 4, 2021, 08:24:24 am »
It's often the way when you set out to see something. We spent a week in Iceland (the country, not the supermarket) hoping to see the Northern Lights. It was cloudy all week.  :butt

Shooting stars aren't that difficult to see. As I said, we often see them when watching telly with the blinds open sat indoors near Sefton Park, and we aren't even looking for them. They just catch your eye if they are bright enough.

I'm on Park Road, and my building has a sodding floodlight fixed to the back over the car park. :(
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #402 on: March 4, 2021, 06:39:58 pm »
I'm on Park Road, and my building has a sodding floodlight fixed to the back over the car park. :(

Light pollution central, then.  :-\
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #403 on: March 4, 2021, 07:29:54 pm »
Light pollution central, then.  :-\

Pretty much, yeah mate.  Unless I fancy wandering around Princes Park.  Looking for dark areas with no streetlights around Toxteth and Dingle isn't something to be encouraged! ;D
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #404 on: March 13, 2021, 08:08:57 pm »
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #405 on: March 13, 2021, 08:12:37 pm »
A Merseyrail train has gone through the buffers at Kirkby
https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liverpool-news/live-merseyrail-train-involved-accident-20140370

How the fuck do you do that  :o :o ? Its been the end of the line since I was a kid and the trains always go in really slow.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #406 on: March 13, 2021, 08:24:28 pm »
Wow.  Can't think what might have caused that other than driver error or something being on the line.  Passengers must have been really shook up, would have scared the shit out of me. Hope the driver is ok.

Wonder if the train was badly damaged?  Most of the current stock are over 40 years old and with Covid the new ones aren't likely to enter service until next year.  Might not be much point trying to repair it, so presumably they can manage without it?
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #407 on: March 13, 2021, 08:26:59 pm »
How the fuck do you do that  :o :o ? Its been the end of the line since I was a kid and the trains always go in really slow.

It hit the bridge too which is a footbridge as the road is too narrow for a pavement on one side, so luckily looks like no one walking on the footbridge too.

 
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #408 on: March 13, 2021, 08:37:25 pm »
It hit the bridge too which is a footbridge as the road is too narrow for a pavement on one side, so luckily looks like no one walking on the footbridge too.

Yeah, I was just checking on Googlemap.  When the report said "hit a bridge" I wasn't sure whether it was referring to the footbridge or the road bridge.  :-\

Photo from the scene:

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #409 on: March 13, 2021, 08:43:55 pm »
Yeah, I was just checking on Googlemap.  When the report said "hit a bridge" I wasn't sure whether it was referring to the footbridge or the road bridge.  :-\

Photo from the scene:



 Luckily too of lockdown restrictions, train at that time of the day even on Kirkby line would normally be busy.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #410 on: March 13, 2021, 08:48:15 pm »
Luckily too of lockdown restrictions, train at that time of the day even on Kirkby line would normally be busy.

Yeah.  There's not a lot to see but it looks like the train has ended up under the road bridge and that the platform is something of a mess.  No physical injuries thankfully.

If I'm understanding the reporting it looks like the train has somehow jumped the tracks, then hit the buffers, but somebody here might see it different. Can't tell which carriage has come of the tracks, but it looks like the middle one to me.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #411 on: March 13, 2021, 09:20:37 pm »


Defiantly going for scrap, luckily Merseyrail are replacing the 507/8s for the new 777s
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #412 on: March 13, 2021, 10:16:35 pm »


Defiantly going for scrap, luckily Merseyrail are replacing the 507/8s for the new 777s
That looks bad; hopefully nobody got seriously hurt.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #413 on: March 13, 2021, 10:28:42 pm »
That looks bad; hopefully nobody got seriously hurt.

BTP have confirmed no serious injuries
Tweet : We were called to #Kirkby station at 7.01pm this evening following reports that a train derailed while travelling into the station. Officers, paramedics and fire services attended – thankfully no one sustained serious injuries. Enquiries are ongoing.
https://twitter.com/BTPMersey/status/1370858817337057284
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #414 on: March 13, 2021, 10:41:35 pm »
BTP have confirmed no serious injuries
Tweet : We were called to #Kirkby station at 7.01pm this evening following reports that a train derailed while travelling into the station. Officers, paramedics and fire services attended – thankfully no one sustained serious injuries. Enquiries are ongoing.
https://twitter.com/BTPMersey/status/1370858817337057284
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #415 on: March 14, 2021, 07:37:43 am »


Defiantly going for scrap, luckily Merseyrail are replacing the 507/8s for the new 777s

Damn. 507006, probably one of the oldest trains on the network. Yeah, can't imagine them fixing it now.

Looks like buffer hits have happened a few times at Kirkby. Might just be the law of averages catching up though.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #416 on: March 14, 2021, 11:04:46 am »


Defiantly going for scrap, luckily Merseyrail are replacing the 507/8s for the new 777s

Fucking hell, he's been travelling at some clip to end up there. That pic is taken from the other side of the bridge from the Merseyrail station, that is the platform for the Wigan line which is the diesels, we used to walk under the bridges and climb the embankment when we bunked home from Crosby. The platform at Kirkby is long enough to take a 6 car carriage and the drivers always decelerate just after they cross the M57 and then slow to a crawl by the station and come in quite slowly.

You can see the buffers in this pic, they always stop short of them anyway, he's gone through them, under iron bridge and ended up where the Wigan train is.





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« Reply #417 on: March 14, 2021, 12:54:06 pm »
Fucking hell, he's been travelling at some clip to end up there. That pic is taken from the other side of the bridge from the Merseyrail station, that is the platform for the Wigan line which is the diesels, we used to walk under the bridges and climb the embankment when we bunked home from Crosby. The platform at Kirkby is long enough to take a 6 car carriage and the drivers always decelerate just after they cross the M57 and then slow to a crawl by the station and come in quite slowly.

You can see the buffers in this pic, they always stop short of them anyway, he's gone through them, under iron bridge and ended up where the Wigan train is.


That puts in better perspective as to how far it's travelled past the buffers.
It must have been derailed a lot further up the track to have missed the concrete square that's sticking out.
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« Reply #418 on: March 14, 2021, 01:18:32 pm »
That puts in better perspective as to how far it's travelled past the buffers.
It must have been derailed a lot further up the track to have missed the concrete square that's sticking out.

Yeah.  I think it's probably clipped the block on its way, which has shunted it to where it is.  But it must have already been off the tracks before it got there.  Wonder if there was a concrete block on the line?

Was walking through Central today and all Kirkby trains were down as cancelled.  I'm presuming they've had to turn the current off that whole stretch of track so workers can get in and start the clean up.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #419 on: March 14, 2021, 01:28:33 pm »
That puts in better perspective as to how far it's travelled past the buffers.
It must have been derailed a lot further up the track to have missed the concrete square that's sticking out.

Looking at the pics, I think its gone straight through the buffers, hit the concrete platform and smashed it to pieces and then bounced to the left, you can see all the debris in front of the train. Its hard to tell from the pics, but that walkway comes out just past the road bridge- we used to mess about under the bridge as kids while waiting for the train to come in.

Makes you wonder if the driver has fallen ill and been unable to do anything to stop the train, madly there's a video on you tube of Kirkby station and you can see how slowly the train arrives.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #420 on: March 14, 2021, 01:40:07 pm »
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« Reply #421 on: March 14, 2021, 02:19:55 pm »
Looking at the pics, I think its gone straight through the buffers, hit the concrete platform and smashed it to pieces and then bounced to the left, you can see all the debris in front of the train. Its hard to tell from the pics, but that walkway comes out just past the road bridge- we used to mess about under the bridge as kids while waiting for the train to come in.

Makes you wonder if the driver has fallen ill and been unable to do anything to stop the train, madly there's a video on you tube of Kirkby station and you can see how slowly the train arrives.


tbf, the three car train came in fairly fast on that video ;)  Arriving at Hunts Cross is usually far more sedate.  Ah well, they would have had to remove that piece of platform anyway when they extend the line through.

More seriously, there were no reports last night that the driver was ill, but maybe it's not been released yet.    Seems that they had to clear debris from the front of the train to get the driver out through the front access door.  I guess the accident cut power to the carriage and disabled the doors.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #422 on: March 14, 2021, 03:13:18 pm »
tbf, the three car train came in fairly fast on that video ;)  Arriving at Hunts Cross is usually far more sedate.  Ah well, they would have had to remove that piece of platform anyway when they extend the line through.

More seriously, there were no reports last night that the driver was ill, but maybe it's not been released yet.    Seems that they had to clear debris from the front of the train to get the driver out through the front access door.  I guess the accident cut power to the carriage and disabled the doors.



The failsafe mode would be that when the power fails, the doors locks open. You still might have to pull them open, but you can't leave them locked without power - how would anyone get out is there was a fire?

Afaik the driver's door is just a normal door though, no power needed.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #423 on: March 14, 2021, 05:49:31 pm »
tbf, the three car train came in fairly fast on that video ;)  Arriving at Hunts Cross is usually far more sedate.  Ah well, they would have had to remove that piece of platform anyway when they extend the line through.

More seriously, there were no reports last night that the driver was ill, but maybe it's not been released yet.    Seems that they had to clear debris from the front of the train to get the driver out through the front access door.  I guess the accident cut power to the carriage and disabled the doors.



Are the extending it through? They stopped the through trains in the Mid 70's after exchange street was closed and the electric trains were introduced, I can just about remember the old station but I can still remember the first time on the new trains and going underground rather than into Exchange Street.

Getting him was probably more down to the internal door being locked? I assume they are reinforced so no one can get in?
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #424 on: March 14, 2021, 05:52:55 pm »
NW News just said the driver was taken to hospital as a precaution so doesn't sound like he was taken ill whilst driving.
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« Reply #425 on: March 14, 2021, 06:20:02 pm »
Are the extending it through? They stopped the through trains in the Mid 70's after exchange street was closed and the electric trains were introduced, I can just about remember the old station but I can still remember the first time on the new trains and going underground rather than into Exchange Street.

Getting him was probably more down to the internal door being locked? I assume they are reinforced so no one can get in?

Merseyrail has a very extensive and rather ambitious plan to expand the network when the Class 777 trains arrive, funding permitted.  The new trains can run on third rail or overhead lines, and a small number of units will have batteries to enable them to operate on unelectrified track for a fair distance.

As I recall the plan, the long term aims are to extend Ormskirk through to Preston, , Kirkby through to Skelmersdale, and take over the Bidston to Wrexham service.  It's all quite long term, so no clue as to the timetable though.

The failsafe mode would be that when the power fails, the doors locks open. You still might have to pull them open, but you can't leave them locked without power - how would anyone get out is there was a fire?

Afaik the driver's door is just a normal door though, no power needed.

Hmm.  As I recall the emergency door opening mechanism cuts they hydraulic lines, which drains the fluid and enables the doors to be forced apart. A few years back my train got stranded at Birkenhead Park after an intruder was spotted about a mile up the track and they had to cut the power to the third rail.  They used the onboard batteries to open the doors.

I'm not sure the doors are locked in the way you describe, but then again I could be wrong.  As I understand it, electricity opens and closes them by actuating the hydraulic system, but it's the latter that actually keeps them open or closed.  They don't just snap open in the event of a loss of power.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #426 on: March 14, 2021, 07:00:18 pm »
There have been long term plans to extend the line to Headbolt Lane[between Northwood & Tower Hill], proposed for opening in 2023
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« Reply #427 on: March 14, 2021, 07:09:24 pm »
There have been long term plans to extend the line to Headbolt Lane[between Northwood & Tower Hill], proposed for opening in 2023

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #428 on: March 15, 2021, 08:02:24 pm »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #429 on: March 15, 2021, 08:08:37 pm »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

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« Reply #430 on: March 15, 2021, 08:11:45 pm »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

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« Reply #431 on: March 16, 2021, 12:58:01 am »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

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Oh its definitely NOT Liverpool ;D

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Yeah we’re very lucky, seems a great place.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #433 on: March 17, 2021, 08:47:54 am »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

you were closer to being a scouser back in yorkshire
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #434 on: March 17, 2021, 10:07:31 am »
Obviously. Got my eyes peeled in the Tesco.

Yeah we’re very lucky, seems a great place.

You'll have to find out what restaurants they eat in ;)

Formby is a nice place, our kid was head Chef at the Bay Horse and lived in Formby for a few years until he moved to Bournemouth.
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #435 on: March 17, 2021, 08:40:01 pm »
In other news, the green waste collection recommences on Monday.

I'll be out clapping the loaders. Fucking hell I need them.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #436 on: March 17, 2021, 08:51:29 pm »
You'll have to find out what restaurants they eat in ;)

Formby is a nice place, our kid was head Chef at the Bay Horse and lived in Formby for a few years until he moved to Bournemouth.

Is that still there? Remember going there with my Grandad when I was about 10 for a carvery. What about Don Luigi? :D

Nice one Jersey, regards to Jurgen.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #437 on: March 17, 2021, 09:13:18 pm »
In other news, the green waste collection recommences on Monday.

I'll be out clapping the loaders. Fucking hell I need them.

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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #438 on: March 17, 2021, 09:27:04 pm »
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Re: Liverpool news thread
« Reply #439 on: March 17, 2021, 09:33:39 pm »
I’ve just moved to Formby from West Yorkshire.

It’s probably technically not Liverpool and it’s not really news, but after 34 years I finally have an L postcode ;D

numerous bad wools...but a lovely place, congrats on the move
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