Topic: [World Cup 2022] South American Qualifiers... Bra, Arg, Uru & Ecu all qualified

[4pool]

Alisson and Fabinho played the entire match v Argentina.

FT 0-0

[oojason]

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South American World Cup Qualification Table (after 14 of 18 matches)... www.flashscore.co.uk/football/south-america/world-cup/standings






Match Day 15 : 27th/28th January, 2022 (UK dates & kick off times)...

Ecuador 1 - 1 Brazil 
Paraguay 0 - 1 Uruguay
Chile 1 - 2 Argentina
Colombia 0 - 1 Peru
Venezuela 4 - 1 Bolivia


Match Day 16 : 1st/2nd February, 2022 (UK dates & kick off times)...

Bolivia vs Chile : Tues 8pm ko - live on Premier Sports 1
Uruguay vs Venezuela : Tues 11pm ko
Argentina vs Colombia : Tues 11.30pm ko - live on Premier Sports 2
Brazil vs Paraguay : Wed 12.30am ko - live on Premier Sports 1
Peru vs Ecuador : Wed 2am ko - live on Premier Sports 2

[Crosby Nick]

Colombia with three wins from 14 and in a qualifying position!

Looks incredibly tight though for that 4th spot.

[Fromola]

Colombia with three wins from 14 and in a qualifying position!

Looks incredibly tight though for that 4th spot.

Quality looks appalling below Brazil/Argentina which might be leading both to a false sense of security going into a World Cup year with the unbeaten runs they're on.

The likes of Chile and Uruguay still relying on long past-it veterans with not much coming through behind them.

[Crosby Nick]

Quality looks appalling below Brazil/Argentina which might be leading both to a false sense of security going into a World Cup year with the unbeaten runs they're on.

The likes of Chile and Uruguay still relying on long past-it veterans with not much coming through behind them.

Show some respect to Ben Brereton!

Presumably Ecuador are there because of their home record too and won’t do much in Qatar?

[Vinay]

When are we likely to see a South American country winning the WC again? Brasil massively messed up in 2014, Argentina cames short in 2014, when it was in Brasil, and I fear the chance is now gone... The last winner from that continent were Brasil in 2002.... Wow! 20 years ago...Is that the longest wait?

[Fromola]

Show some respect to Ben Brereton!

Presumably Ecuador are there because of their home record too and won’t do much in Qatar?

They've still lost 5 of their qualifiers (4 away) and still have Brazil and Argentina to play at home, but getting them both at home when both already qualified is ideal. They're benefiting from the decline of fortunes for Chile and Uruguay (Colombia as well) as they're usually around the middle of the pack in the 10 team league by virtue of their home record.

There's nobody who most people would heave heard of in the squad, or who play first team football for a notable club.

[Fromola]

When are we likely to see a South American country winning the WC again? Brasil massively messed up in 2014, Argentina cames short in 2014, when it was in Brasil, and I fear the chance is now gone... The last winner from that continent were Brasil in 2002.... Wow! 20 years ago...Is that the longest wait?

Apart from Brazil winning the World Cup in Sweden in 1958 the winner had always come their own continent (including the Americas as one) until that 2002 World Cup. As the hosts was nearly always alternated from Europe to America from one tournament to the next so was the winners. With the exception of 1958 the winners swapped between Europe and South America from 1950 to 2006. The other anomaly was when Italy won it back-to-back in the 1930s (Europe hosted back to back).

2010 was the change as an all European final in Africa. Argentina under a proper coach could have won it that year with the talent they had (left loads of top players at home). Then the real change of the guards was Brazil losing 7-1 to Germany in their own country and then Germany beating Argentina in the final. Again, Argentina at least had the talent to have won it but Messi was struggling for fitness in that tournament for one thing.

Hard to say if Argentina or Brazil have a chance in Qatar but the likes of France and England have much better talent rosters. Brazil and Argentina seem to producing far fewer top players as well. Brazil's better players are pushing 30 or over.  Therefore when it gets to an America World Cup in 2026 (and possibly 2030) Brazil and Argentina will be unlikely to have a team that can compete at all without some new top players emerging. They at least have a chance next year with players like Neymar in their prime.

[oojason]

'Match officials & VAR in the Argentina vs Brazil match are suspended for "serious error" in Otamendi's move':-

https://ge.globo.com/futebol/selecao-brasileira/noticia/brasil-x-argentina-arbitros-sao-suspensos-apos-var-nao-recomendar-expulsao-de-otamendi-veja-bastidores.ghtml


Otamendi elbow to Raphinha's face... (gives him a bloody mouth)... no freekick or card given, no VAR review - https://streamable.com/rf2o6y & https://streamable.com/jasvrk


Got to say, it seemed the referee (& assistants) chose to not see what was obviously going on around him all match - some the Argentineans were at their snide, shithouse worst.

That said, we rarely see match officials punished like this here in England. Good for footy the world over where they do have open and public oversight on match officials' decisions and performances.

[deano2727]

I'm living in Colombia these days, so I've seen quite a lot of their games and other teams in South America. I have to say, the quality on show is often shite. International football, in general, is crap, but it is particularly dire over here.

Colombia is the worst of the lot. An absolute bore-fest.

[Indomitable_Carp]

Colombia is the worst of the lot. An absolute bore-fest.

I remember England playing them in 2018, and it was like playing Burnley

[downtown]

Bolivia with 2 very winnable games for the next round.

win those 2 and I reckon they'll be in the qualifying position with 2 games to go! Be mad if they made the WC

[Fromola]

Bolivia with 2 very winnable games for the next round.

win those 2 and I reckon they'll be in the qualifying position with 2 games to go! Be mad if they made the WC

They actually qualified for the 1994 World Cup and I think that's the last time they won an away qualifier after a quick look through previous campaigns!

They've picked up 2 points from their 7 away games. It's always at home where they do well but they pretty much never win away. They've got Venezuela and Colombia away - they'd need to win one of them and win their two home games (one of which is against Brazil).

It's unlikely but they've got Brazil last game and to be in a position where they could qualify going into the last game would be an achievement. They'd have to win away for once though.

[Ray K]

@eeamalyon
After 15 years, Oscar Washington Tabarez is out as Uruguay coach. El Maestro 🇺🇾

@Zonal_Marking
224 games in charge of one nation - over two spells - more than anyone else in international football history. An absolutely incredible job from top to bottom.

[afc tukrish]

@eeamalyon
After 15 years, Oscar Washington Tabarez is out as Uruguay coach. El Maestro 🇺🇾

@Zonal_Marking
224 games in charge of one nation - over two spells - more than anyone else in international football history. An absolutely incredible job from top to bottom.

El Maestro certainly was...

Possible to make the argument that, relative to playing resource talent available, he's one of the best managers of all time by what he achieved for Uruguay...

[oojason]

Alisson and Fabinho are both in the Brazil squad for the next two World Cup qualifiers (vs Ecuador & Paraguay) - but no Bobby...

https://twitter.com/cricketsoccer/status/1481654836475363330



Ecuador XI: Domínguez; Preciado, Torres, Hincapié, Estupiñán; Plata, Gruezo, M. Caicedo, A. Franco; Estrada, E. Valencia.

Brazil XI: Alisson; Emerson, Militao, Thiago Silva, Alex Sandro; Casemiro, Fred; Raphinha, Coutinho, Vinicius; Cunha. (Fabinho is suspended for this match).

9pm kick off.

[Dave McCoy]

Quick Brazil goal after Ecuador missed an a sitter on an early free kick.

Edit: And now the Ecuadorian GK is sent off for a ridiculous challenge.

[the_red_pill]

Quick Brazil goal after Ecuador missed an a sitter on an early free kick.

Edit: And now the Ecuadorian GK is sent off for a ridiculous challenge.

Thanks. Whoscored?

[Dave McCoy]

Thanks. Whoscored?

Casemiro after a scramble in the box.

Emerson Royal going all Spursy and just got sent off as well. Now 10v10.

[redgriffin73]

Thanks. Whoscored?

Casemiro.

Red card on each side after 20 mins!

[OsirisMVZ]

Emerson Royal sent off for a second yellow straight after the Ecuadorian GK was sent off. 19 mins in and its 10 v 10

[Dave McCoy]

Holy Jesus. Allison just sent off.

[OsirisMVZ]

Ali sent off

Edit: Come on thats not his fault, he's cleared the ball and the striker walks into it as the boot comes back down, nothing he could have done.

[redgriffin73]

What the fuck is this game

[redgriffin73]

Is he supposed to chop his leg off after he's kicked the ball?

Changed to yellow.

[Darkness]

Looking at 20 minutes added time here 

[Dave McCoy]

LOL, this is going to be a 65 minute first half. Crazy.

[Desert Red Fox]

y'all probably gonna be asleep for the Chile vs Argentina match but I'll say this, very proudly:

it's gonna be played in my hometown, in the stadium of my beloved hometown team. That doesn't happen very often (hasn't happened in... decades to be honest, and the last time it was only a friendly match), so I'm quite proud

This is how the stadium looked yesterday - keep in mind my hometown is in the middle of the world's driest desert, so having a pitch of that quality is something to behold. We have a great guy in charge of the pitch, he's arguably the best in the country.

[redgriffin73]

^^^ Enjoy the game DRF! Pitch looks great.

[Legs]

Have Fab and Firmino been included in squad ?

Cant see em on bench tonight

[redgriffin73]

Have Fab and Firmino been included in squad ?

Cant see em on bench tonight

Bobby wasn't called up but Fab was pictured in training yesterday.

[oojason]

Have Fab and Firmino been included in squad ?

Cant see em on bench tonight

Fabinho is in the squad - though not on the bench (injury?). Bobby is not in the squad for either of Brazil's games this time around.

[Desert Red Fox]

^^^ Enjoy the game DRF! Pitch looks great.

thanks mate! I bet it's gonna be either a great match for us, or a complete disaster

[redgriffin73]

Could have been a pen for Ecuador there.

[oojason]

y'all probably gonna be asleep for the Chile vs Argentina match but I'll say this, very proudly:

it's gonna be played in my hometown, in the stadium of my beloved hometown team. That doesn't happen very often (hasn't happened in... decades to be honest, and the last time it was only a friendly match), so I'm quite proud

This is how the stadium looked yesterday - keep in mind my hometown is in the middle of the world's driest desert, so having a pitch of that quality is something to behold. We have a great guy in charge of the pitch, he's arguably the best in the country.

Beautiful ground (and pitch!), Desert Red Fox - just been looking it up on Wikipedia

Hope it is a great game for you.

[Legs]

Bobby wasn't called up but Fab was pictured in training yesterday.

Cheers to both

[Dave McCoy]

Somehow it's only 10 minutes of added time.  Seems short but the game is pretty terrible on anything but violence so probably for the best.

[redgriffin73]

Cheers to both

Just read Fab is apparently suspended for this game.

[newterp]

Fabinho is suspended for this game right?


Coutinho injured or a tactical change?

[kavah]

Fabinho is suspended for this game right?
…

I was wondering were he was?