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Football fashion/post yer trainees
« on: May 23, 2006, 02:54:59 pm »
i dont know whether many on here are fans of football fashion/casual but i found this article and thought it was a good read. Liverpool and wade smith is involved heavily!

i think someone needs to write an article about our love for reebok flatshoe all white classics!


© Peter Hooton (1990)



The article below is from an issue of the FACE magazine from around 1991/92. The article was written by Peter Hooton one of the scallies behind the 80's terrace fanzine 'The End' and of course of 'The Farm' fame.

This year marked the tenth anniversary of THE FACE, but whereas parties have been thrown to commemorate this occasion, nobody has bothered to hold a 'do' for the tenth anniversary of the training shoe. It could be a unique occasion (possibly hilarious) and a fitting bash to celebrate a decade that has seen trainer wear break out on a massive scale. Training shoe espionage is now big business, and sportswear conventions where new designs are revealed have stricter security and secrecy than any Tory Party Conference: it seems that bootleggers know their stuff and can rip off a design before you can tie your laces!

I'm sure Adi Dassler and his brother Rudolf didn't know what they were starting when they began making sports shoes in Germany in the Twenties. After the war, the brothers had a row and split (good soap opera plot, this) and Adi formed Adidas and their kid formed Puma. The companies have been arch rivals ever since and it's only fitting now that the two main rivals in the so-called 'old school trainers' wars are Adidas and Puma.

Much has been written about training shoes over the last couple of years, as the style magazines and the newspapers have tried to come to terms with the massive increase in the popularity of the trainer. Empires have been built and fortunes acquired during the Eighties, and most 'lazy' journalists have looked to the States to explain the phenomenon. Unfortunately, most of what has been written has been complete nonsense, so far from the truth that it's not even funny. If the truth be known, the obsession with training shoes for the youth of this country began in the late Seventies and not in the late Eighties, as some would have us believe. It came from the football terraces and the council estates of the big cities, and who gives a George Best who started it - it happened and that's a fact.

In the post-punk revolution of '78/79, Adidas Samba ruled the terraces of Anfield and Goodison, quickly followed by Stan Smith's, before Puma struck back with its Argentina (blue leather, white stripe) and the much sought after Puma Menotti (red leather, white stripe). Trainer wars were well underway, and European away matches were the perfect opportunity to acquire those obscure training shoes available in Germany, but not in Liverpool. Most of the training shoe addicts would never dream of getting a pair you could buy in the city centre in Liverpool. This was real fashion, and the competition was intense. A revolution was going on that had absolutely nothing to do with the streets of Brooklyn or the Bronx. In all the years that The End magazine was printed in Liverpool, we never received a single letter about 'trainers' in America, but we did get hundreds about the training shoes the different football crews were wearing. A football crew's reputation could be severely damaged by giving it toes (getting chased) at Fulham Broadway, Finsbury Park or the Euston Road, but more serious damage could be done if a fatty was seen wearing a bad pair of trainers by the opposing teams' fashion spotters.

In May 1981, Liverpool played Real Madrid in the European Cup Final in Paris. We arrived at St Lazare Station on the Sunday before the game. The next three days were spent not looking at the buildings and architecture of gay Paree but for a mythical Adidas Centre which one of my mates overheard someone talking about in hushed tones in a Liverpool snug. Naïve teenagers we may have been, but if we had found it we would have been heroes. The bemused Parisians didn't know what the fuck we were on about when we asked for the "Adidas Centre" in several differing French accents. It was like the search for the Holy Grail, but more like the Monty Python film version.

The newspaper Paris Soir reported the antics of Liverpool supporters with some confusion. They had been drinking, but they didn't seem to want to fight anybody. They were too busy shoplifting, with the main targets being clothes and, of course, trainers. By the morning of the game the sports shops of Paris were locked, with staff supervising the doors, allowing only two people at a time into the shop. A way of life had been born and no one had even heard of hip hop, house or rap, let alone Run DMC.

It was some time before the fashion magazines and newspapers started to write about this street culture, but when THE FACE wrote a big feature on the subject in its July 1983 issue the floodgates opened. The article, written by Kevin Sampson, concentrated on the fashion area of London's so-called 'Casuals', Liverpool's so-called 'Scallies' and Manchester's 'Perries'. Within weeks, Time Out had an article written by London playwright and football fan Mick Mahoney who got it right when he pointed out that "if Nike brought out a crocodile-skin trainer for £140, it would be a smash". The football crowd and estate dwellers of the big cities didn't give a monkeys what they were wearing in Harlem or anywhere else; if it looked good in the Anfield Road End, the Scoreboard Paddock or the Clock End, it was good enough for them. Over the next year, nearly every newspaper in the country, from the Mail On Sunday to New Society, had articles on this strange breed of training shoe-clad youngster.

As usual the sports firms were slow to respond, and even by the mid-Eighties you still couldn't buy good, exclusive trainers in most cities. Europe, not the States, was still the mecca, and many shopping trips by eager Scousers willing to supply the demand in their home city went some way to doing this. (It also increased the letters from German/Swiss nicks asking for copies of The End magazine to relieve the boredom.)

It was during this period that a young buyer for Adidas based in Liverpool (but originally from Yorkshire) set up shop in a small back-street in Liverpool City Centre. He set up on his own because the company he worked for, Top Man, didn't really know what was going on, on a street level. After travelling to the Frankfurt Sports Fair he had wanted them to stock Adidas Forest Hills (white leather, gold stripes). Adidas insisted On 500 pairs going to the 'flagship store' in Oxford Circus. They didn't sell a pair and most of the reps blamed the price tag (£29.99) in 1980/81. Wade Smith knew different. After laughing at the idea of launching Forest Hills in Liverpool, Adidas let him have 500 pairs. He put them on sale in the beginning of December 1980; by Christmas they had sold out. Wade Smith was given salesman of the year in January and promptly left to set up shop on his own. He immediately set off for Germany in a van and the rest is history. His four-storey department-style store is testament to that. The shop now caters for the mainstream market, but it was built upon bringing in exclusive trainers from Germany in the early Eighties, trainers that had nothing to do with America, but a lot to do with the nomad Scousers, and Wade Smith often supplemented his stock by buying from Liverpool 'entrepreneurs' with time on their hands to travel to Deutschland and acquire, by various methods, the much sought after, exclusive Adidas Trim-Trab.

Judy Rumbold, the fashion editor of The Guardian, couldn't have been more wrong when she wrote about trainers (August 21 1989): "In Tom Wolfe's Bonfire Of The Vanities, sneakers are documented as an intrusive part of young American street style; not just symbols of black affiliation and for high performance on the dancefloor but as crucial elements in maintaining a lugubrious, rhythmic gait that Wolfe coined the Pimp Roll. That was in 1987; now the fad has soft-shoed across from the streets of Brooklyn and the Bronx and become a cult throughout Europe." Apart from qualifying for Pseuds Corner in Private Eye and avoiding the use of plain English, what Rumbold was trying to say was that British youth had just discovered trainers in the late Eighties. The hilarious Clothes Show even declared 1987 as the "year of the training shoe". Have these people been in a time-machine or chained in dimly-lit rooms in Beirut? This myth has got to be quashed!

Anyway, everyone knows that training shoes have gone a bit crazy in the past few years. Hilarious designs have been churned out of the factories and many a massive tongue has been laughed at. Competiton is cut-throat and it seems some of the designers have been taking some dodgy tabs (or suffering from over-worked stress syndrome), as the high-top trainer becomes more and more ridiculous.

The hilarious Clothes Show even declared 1987 as the "year of the training shoe". Have these people been in a time-machine or chained in dimly-lit rooms in Beirut?

Bad trainers now rule the market, but it has nothing to do with 'fashion' it's mass consumerism (check Tony Wilson out in his Travel Fox). The main reason people have been wearing Adidas Shell-toes and Puma States in the past year or so is because Nike, Adidas, Troop, Converse, British Knights, Travel Fox, Reebok, LA Gear, Hi-Tec, Jordache, etc, are producing some of the silliest, shittiest trainers known to man (and woman). The frantic search for trainers past is simply a reaction against the shit trainers syndrome! Thankfully, according to Wade Smith's sales figures, Liverpool is not a great supporter of multi-coloured high-tops.

Big, bad and sad should be the companies' mottoes. Even Michael Jackson has designed a trainer for LA Gear, imaginatively called 'Billie Jean'. It's big, black and has more studs than a biker's jacket. Unbelievable! Jackson must've been under the effects of the anaesthetic after a nose job to come out with something so bad. It's not whether old trainers are fashionable or not (many of the old school trainers were crap). The fact is that they are a million times better than many of the new trainers on the market and a lot harder to find. Obviously American fashion does have an influence on the

TOP TEN CLASSICS TOP TEN SAD TRAINERS
1. Adidas Samba  Traval Fox Barracuda (and all others) 
2. Puma Argentina  Nike Air Jordan
3. Adidas S.L. 80's  Fila Tourissmo 
4. Adidas Stan Smith  Anything by Troop 
5. Adidas Forest Hills  British Knights (all ranges) 
6. Adidas Trim Trab  LA Gear (hilarious) 
7. Adidas Shell-Toes  Reebok Pump ((you've got to pump the bastards up) 
8. Diadora Borg Elite Nike Air Pressure 
9. Adidas Gazelle  Hi-Tec (never seen a good pair yet) 
10. Puma States  Jordache (no exit) 



European market, but when the Sunday Mirror magazine declares "the high-top trainer rules the world and is this year's trendiest fashion accessory. Anybody who's anybody knows that a pair of brand new trainers - bright laces undone, tongues out, displaying that all important brand name - says more about you than a wallet full of gold credit cards", you know it's time to leave the county and live on a desert island in your bare feet or search the loft for your ex-issue Diadora Borg Elite or Stan Smiths.

Let's be plain here - the Sugarhill Gang circa 1979 dressed in Huggy Bear hipsters and hairy chests were the genuine NYC article. A generation away from the British urchins who started it all. American persons who wear training shoes with suits and fur coats cannot be taken seriously. This isn't another beautifully executed US import - it's a slab of classic British hokum and there's nothing LA Gear can do about it. That's all.

P.S. Whatever happened to Gola?

© Peter Hooton (1990)
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« Reply #1 on: May 23, 2006, 03:18:20 pm »
Never really understood the passion for trainees, although the article is spot on about how ludicrous some of them are.

Even when the trainer fashion was at it's height I don't think I had a fashionable pair, spent most of my time in Doc Marten boots. Think I had an old pair of Dunlop Green Flash for if I was playing footie.

My brothers in law are well into them though, all them pearly white flat soled ones and that. They've bought me a few pairs but I tend to wear them to do the garden so they get wrecked.

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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2006, 03:25:33 pm »
Dunlop Green Flash seem to be back in fashion now!

My brothers in law are well into them though, all them pearly white flat soled ones and that. They've bought me a few pairs but I tend to wear them to do the garden so they get wrecked.

that may well be a criminal offence! if they get dirty you must lick them!
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2006, 03:36:07 pm »
blanc en blanc  8)
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« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2006, 03:38:27 pm »
blanc en blanc  8)
ugliest fucking things iv'e ever had the misfortune to set eyes upon.

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« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2006, 03:40:39 pm »
I just couldn't keep anything like that clean and I'm not sitting scrubbing them with a brush and putting whitener on them.

Got bought a couple of pairs of Ellesse ones, sort of a suede effect. Did the gardening in them as well.

Only pair I've got now are a pair of white Nike running shoes but they're pretty shabby, had them for years.

Main problem I've had with trainers is that I can't pronounce the names

Is it "nike" as in "bike" or is it "nye-key"?

Is it "a-dee-das" or "addy-das"?

Is it "L-S" or "L-essy"?

At least you know where you stand with Dunlop  ;D
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« Reply #6 on: May 23, 2006, 03:41:53 pm »
its dune -lope. ::)

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« Reply #7 on: May 23, 2006, 03:42:42 pm »
its dune -lope. ::)

Messed that one up too huh  :-[
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« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2006, 03:43:21 pm »
Have been wearing my Adidas Gazelles for most of this season. Just bought meself a new pair of Forest Hills today, arriving on Thursday. Happy days.

Might have a look round for a new pair of Stan Smiths too
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« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2006, 03:44:46 pm »
Have been wearing my Adidas Gazelles for most of this season. Just bought meself a new pair of Forest Hills today, arriving on Thursday. Happy days.

Might have a look round for a new pair of Stan Smiths too
gazelles = proper trainers. ;)

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« Reply #10 on: May 23, 2006, 03:46:51 pm »
ive got this ticket thing for the adidas factory which is in stockport,

they always have loads of stan smiths for about 15-20 quid,

nothing better than a fresh pair of trainees!

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2006, 04:18:05 pm »
gazelles = proper trainers. ;)

Indeed...lovely black suedy feel...difficult to keep them looking good now as they're a bit battered, but I try my best. Regular scrubs etc. Might just get a new pair for the summer.
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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2006, 04:28:51 pm »
Those ones at the top look a bit daft, like something out of a bad 70's porno  ;D
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Also from The Face - The Dark Side of The Mersey/The Scallies Rally To Pink Floyd ( worth a read)!

A hippy is chased down a darkened street by a group of 16-year old casuals. In most parts of Britain, what follows is likely to test his pacifist views sorely. In Liverpool, he’s more likely to be nagged for tales of the Isle Of Wight Festival. Genesis are big in Merseyside. So is Zappa. But Biggest of all are Pink Floyd.

“Our little Jimmy he’s only three.
But he’s into Zappa, just like me”

Politics Is Boring (poem from The End magazine, Vol 14)

“There’s one smoking a joint and another with spots.
If I had my way I’d have all of you shot.”

‘In The Flesh’ from Pink Floyd’s ‘The Wall’ (EMI 1979)

As part of a world tour to promote their LP, ‘A Momentary Lapse Of Reason’, the Pink Floyd machine borrows Manchester City’s Maine Road football ground for a gathering of the faithful. Everything is as it should be. The lasers are doing what lasers were made to do, and lengthy solos sprawl across a marathon set. A crowd made up of students and social workers applaud the group’s sleepy dexterity. Everything is as it should be. Except that the students and social workers can’t relax. A massive contingent of young men from Liverpool slips through the crowd. The students keep their hands in their pockets. Are these progressive rock fans about to be ‘taxed’ by casuals from the wrong end of the M62?
 

The tension is broken by the thick Scouse accent which confronts one ageing hippy trying to keep track of the 25th guitar solo.

"Hey, mate. Have you got any skins on yer?"

Hours earlier, dozens of coaches and cars full of the kind of young men who the world presumes must
be into hip hop because they live on council estates, are heading for the centre of Manchester. In the
cars, "Dark Side Of The Moon" provides a suitable preparatory experience. Those lucky enough to
have a seat on a coach are able to chose between the visual delights of The Wall and Live At Pompeii
on video. 

Outside the ground, the Manchester touts recognise that these people - most of them kitted out
in a variety of expensive trainers - have little in common with any artist's impression of a typical Pink
Floyd fan. Some haven't bothered to buy tickets. The touts adopt cup final tactics, keeping a firm grip on the valuable bits of paper.

"What the fuck are you lot
doing here?" asks one.

"We're here for the music, la," replies an unlikely-
looking hippy.

Such events leave a trail of contradictions which will have most hip redbrick sociologists, with their
clearly defined ideas about the haunts and habits of the post-casual generation, thoroughly confused.

Received wisdom suggests that scallies go to the match and listen to Elvis Costello while hammening a hire car on the way home from Chelsea. In reality, while the media and the Government wonder what to do about The Lager Louts and how to introduce membership cards without causing a national Saturday afternoon  riot, an ever-growing section of young Liverpool fans discuss the availability of king-size Rizla papers while buzzing on the Steve Hillage album "L".

While others are transfixed by acid house, the youth of the city have established a deeply rooted
retro-culture based on cannabis and the music of Pink Floyd, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Genesis and an idiosyncratic collection of pre-Eighties progressive dinosaurs. Walls all over Liverpool spray out clues to passing motorists, yet few inside or outside the city are aware of a massive underground cult which can be traced back to the early Eighties.

'PURPLE HAZE'
 'DON'T DRINK AND DRIVE -SMOKE POT AND FLY', 
'SYD BARRET LIVES',
'FLOYD'
'ZAPPA' 
'ROGER WATERS'

It's impossible to travel far through the suburbs and estates of Liverpool without seeing one or all of these on a wall, bus stop or shop shutter.

These things wouldn't be worth comment were it not for the fact that schoolteachers, students and
ageing hippies aren't often caught vandalising private property in the name of progressive rock. The
slogans are mostly the work of 14 and 15-year olds, the younger brothers of those at Maine Road
who were knee high to a pot plant when Jimi Hendrix began introducing the music world to the joys of distortion and dental soloing.

And such communiques only hint at the strength of the retro-casual movement. Record local attendances for low-key gigs by Roy Harper only served to confuse the record companies, who typically haven't a clue. As usual, they will be the last to find out.

Meanwhile, secondhand record shops and record fairs visiting the city are plagued by pre-teen jazz -
rock fans distinguished by the tribal call, "Got any Zappa, mate?" Video hire shops report pot culture
classics such as Cheech and Chong's Up In Smoke inconstant demand from kids who in other cities might be waiting their turn for Robocop or ET. One truly enthusiastic 17-year-old has officially changed his name from plain David to Floyd, and the major record retail chains find Roger Waters' "Kaos" and
Syd Barrett's newly released "Opel" compilation in direct competition with the collected works of
Morrissey, Marr, Stock, Aitken and Waterman.

What's happening is both unique and uniquely ridiculous. Where will it all end? Some believe only
five nights at the Empire from Frank Zappa will heal the retro hysteria that has gripped the city.

Have you just got into Genesis/Floyd/Zappa 'cos it's safe to like them now?
Yes ......................................……………200 points
Yes, only when I'm stoned.............,........250 points
No, still into the Jam and The Beat….....minus 100 points.

"Are You A Real Wool?" quiz from The End magazine, 1982.

Paul Weller has a lot to answer for. Whatever sense they made in the rest of the country, The Jam,The Clash, The Beat and similar pop extensions of the punk phenomenon made perfect sense to the youth of Liverpool. As those groups fought and fizzled out, these kids could make no sense of the grey overcoat uprising that was left behind. Groups like Joy Division, Magazine and the whole Zoo label axis based in Liverpool were ridiculed as "student crap” .

Many of the current crop of Zappa/Floyd devotees mention being 'into' The Jam before they
discovered a previously neglected music from the late Sixties and Seventies. Before The Jam dis-
appeared into the ether, their sub-stadium date at the Deeside Leisure Centre in North Wales became the last great gathering of pre-retro scallies, who seemed to connect with the visual and musical sharpness of the group. This marriage made perfect sense to everyone. This was, all the critics agreed, the music of the working classes and the streets. In their wake came the Style Council who, it was unanimously decided, were "shit".

The resulting popularity of Bob Marley was an early indication of what was to come, though it
remains difficult to discern whether the music or the draw came first. Either way, one made the other welcome. The record collections of older brothers (this madness seems almost exclusively male) were investigated and, as there is said to be at least one copy of Pink Floyd's "Dark Side Of The Moon" in every street in the country, the appreciation of their reflective rock became popular.
 

Their feelings can be summed up in a statement by Kevin, a militant short-haired hippy: "I wish I'd been born earlier. I'd have loved to have seen Zappa in the Seventies, sitting in a field wrecked out of my face."

Peter Hooton, singer with The Farm and co-editor of The End magazine, a Liverpool publication that
has documented and ridiculed this local phenomenon since its inception, remembers certain pubs in the Netherton area of the city where kids would set up Calor Gas and use hot knives to prepare
cannabis for inhalation through a 'bong' or a coffee jar. At a local club called Gatsby's, some of the
scallies created their own 'Genesis Corner (later renamed 'Zappa's Corner' following the meteoric
ascendancy of the bearded guitarist). It became known as a place where you'd find people-staring into smokey space.

You do buzz off it more when you're stoned,"explains one 15-year-old whose idea of a good
time is to lie with the lights out and his head between his stereo speakers listening to Pink Floyd's "Comfortably Numb". You might laugh at the lyrics more".

The Farm could have been the most successful group in Britain were it not for the intervention of
Bob Marley and Roger Waters. They dressed to a tee in the casual style that Liverpool youth had made
their own, and their music was made up of short, sharp pop songs with lyrics that were cutting and
often politically motivated. For a time they held · sway, but after a while they were obscured by clouds
of smoke and swallowed up in the shadow of "The Wall". 

Peter Hooton remembers seeing a friend on the terraces at Anfield and enquiring about the
strange face on his t-shirt.

 "Who's that", he asked .

 "It's Zappa.", was the reply.

The End had set out to document Liverpool youth culture. As the Cannabis conquered the council estates, itfound itself the reluctant voice of a unique neo-hippy uprising. Its poetry pages were
plagued with verse which talked about the draw, The Wall", and the ubiquitous Zappa. The more
Hooton and the The End's writers took the piss, the more entrenched this retro-culture seemed to become. Simultaneously, the musical menu got stranger and stranger- a catalogue of artists connected only by being strongly associated with the Sixties or early Seventies and being well past their respective sell-by dates. Bob Dylan and Simon & Garfunkel were strong early
favourites. A local talk group called Groundpig stumbled over this freak phenomenon, and as
capable old timers, started playing covers of records like Peter Gabriel's "Solsbury Hill", Simon &
Garfunkel's "The Sound Of Silence" and Supertramp's "Breakfast In America".

During 1982, The Farm would play in one part of town and draw maybe 200 people. In another,
Groundpig would perform, filling a pub or club of as much as 600 capacity with more outside queuing hopefully. Some lads from the Everton area were inspired by the music to
form Drama. They would play Gabriel and Genesis covers. As part of a council-funded anti-drugs
campaign, Peter Hooton helped organise a Groundpig/Drama tour of comprehensive schools in the city.

"We didn't really have enough security," says
Peter. The kids were going mad to get in. Older lads
began arriving in vans. We had created a monster
and we had to stop".

David Miles is 17. He used to ride a BMX bike and go to see Liverpool now and again. Then he heard
Pink Floyd. He is now Floyd Miles, having changed his name by deed poll. Though his mates have
accepted his new name, his mother refuses to call him Floyd, thoroughly disapproving of the whole
idea. The Merseyside Passenger Transport Executive are a little more accommodating, having agreed to changed the name on his bus pass. He's as proud of this as he is of the hundreds of tapes and Cds he owns, each and every one of them having some relevance to the former psychedelic southerners.

Floyd remembers getting into them seriously seven months ago, and since then has spent almost £400
of his YTS scheme earnings on records. Having been at the Maine Road concert, he is full of a new live LP which documents recent shows. He talks intensely about the messages and meanings of the various records ("The Wall' means a lot to me"); of his intention to trek to Europe for future shows; and of his plans to visit the legendary recluse Syd Barrett at his home in Cambridge.

"He lives with his nurse now," he says wistfully. They say he took a jar of acid in the Sixties and he's
going to be tripping for the rest of his life."

He doesn't have any great expectations of the meeting: "I just want to ask him how he is, get his
autograph, like."

Floyd pulls out another rare record, a bootleg album worth £30. "I got this at a record fair.", he sayes proudly. Most days, he will check through the racks of Liverpool's Backtracks - a huge secondhand mecca selling badges, T-shirts and old music to a new generation of short-haired hippies -for the new records that he doesn't have. Soon he plans a show on the local North Coast Radio, an unlicensed station which broadcasts fom the Bidston Estate where he lives.
Obviously, he will play nothing but Pink music. Other projects include recreating the sleeve from "The
Wall" on the font wall of his home ("I haven't asked my mum yet..."), and·perfonning the self-penned
"Dedicated To Syd" with a local teenage mod group. He has no interest whatsoever in other music.
"Gabriel's not bad," he admits, "but I don't really want to listen to anyone else. If I do, I might stop
liking the Floyd. I went out to buy a Genesis LP once but I ended up coming home with a Floyd record..."

The Night Of The Guitars, a tour based around a series of LPs for Miles Copeland's IRS label, arrives in
Liverpool. Like most, these people have no idea of the madness which grips the city. The posters
announce the 'No Speak' concept as 'Instrumental Rock For The Nineties', though most of the artists are remnants from the Sixties and Seventies. Steve Howe from Yes, Robbie Krieger of The Doors and two old men from Wishbone Ash relive former glories on the stage of The Royal Court Theatre.
Against a wall in the corner, a row of six scailies distinguished by their training shoes - are in various
stages of the skinning up ritual. The old men keep soloing and the scallies keep nodding their heads in
approval. A member of the road crew - distinguished by his clip-on pass, leather biker's iacket and grubby flares - passes and stares for a few seconds, dazed and patently confused. He is passing through a city and a culture which is unique. A city where the early Genesis public school
fantasies of old England seep from bedroom windows in Kirkby and Croxteth, a city where Waters is
"well sound" and Led Zeppelin are "a better buzz"; a city where "real hippies" are treated with a mixture of awe and respect; a city where the music of the future is on permanent hold. 

This is Liverpool in
1988, a planet in its own orbit, a neo-hippy
settlement spaced out on the dark side of the moon.

He who sees himself in all beings and all beings in himself loses all fear.

- The Upanishads.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2006, 04:40:55 pm »
really enjoyed that mate cheers, i cant get enough of reading stuff like that.
 
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« Reply #15 on: May 23, 2006, 04:44:12 pm »
Good read innit lar!       8)
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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #16 on: May 23, 2006, 05:09:09 pm »
ive got this ticket thing for the adidas factory which is in stockport,

they always have loads of stan smiths for about 15-20 quid,

nothing better than a fresh pair of trainees!


tell us more bout this 'ticket thing'....
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« Reply #17 on: May 23, 2006, 05:28:43 pm »
Ive got far to many Trainers/Footwear that i dont know what to do with.
Ive currently got..
2 K-Swiss
1 Adidas Mohammad Ali Limited Edition
1 Nike Cortez
And 1 Adicolor Superstars
Along with a pair of Rolldown Timberlands.

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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #18 on: May 23, 2006, 05:33:56 pm »
good read :)
he didnt mention the doors though. ( or did he ::))

2hrs of the doors, + 2 hrs of floyd, = wheres your head at ;D
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« Reply #19 on: May 23, 2006, 05:49:43 pm »
Ive got far to many Trainers/Footwear that i dont know what to do with.
Ive currently got..
2 K-Swiss
1 Adidas Mohammad Ali Limited Edition
1 Nike Cortez
And 1 Adicolor Superstars
Along with a pair of Rolldown Timberlands.


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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #20 on: May 23, 2006, 05:52:15 pm »
I love buying new trainers me.

Dunlop Green Flash seem to be back in fashion now!


I purchased a pair a few months back!
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« Reply #21 on: May 23, 2006, 06:09:13 pm »
I love buying new trainers me.

I purchased a pair a few months back!

Did you get a Bjorn Bjorg headband free with it?
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« Reply #22 on: May 23, 2006, 06:17:53 pm »
Did you get a Bjorn Bjorg headband free with it?

Nope had to buy that separate.
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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #23 on: May 23, 2006, 06:18:41 pm »
where do you reckon the best place for buying trainers is? Either shops in Liverpool or on-line? I'm only usually interested in classic Adidas
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« Reply #24 on: May 23, 2006, 06:44:02 pm »
tell us more bout this 'ticket thing'....

well you can get hold of one through being a business i think, i.e. like macro im not sure how i got mine ive had it a few years now, prob through mate tho. ill try and find out some more info for ya like a phone number or summit.

where do you reckon the best place for buying trainers is? Either shops in Liverpool or on-line? I'm only usually interested in classic Adidas

http://www.trainerstation.com/
http://www.80scasuals.co.uk/

i have some at work ill post tommorow which are better than these, but these are a start.


well your there check this out http://www.countylads.com/casuals.html
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« Reply #25 on: May 23, 2006, 06:53:43 pm »
Nope had to buy that separate.




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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2006, 11:35:09 pm »
where do you reckon the best place for buying trainers is? Either shops in Liverpool or on-line? I'm only usually interested in classic Adidas

Open in Church St. has some good trainees. Got me Gazelles from there
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« Reply #27 on: May 23, 2006, 11:41:04 pm »
Open in Church St. has some good trainees. Got me Gazelles from there
You seen the state of most of them? Look like stevie wonder designed them.
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« Reply #28 on: May 23, 2006, 11:43:40 pm »
where do you reckon the best place for buying trainers is? Either shops in Liverpool or on-line? I'm only usually interested in classic Adidas





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« Reply #29 on: May 23, 2006, 11:51:43 pm »
You seen the state of most of them? Look like stevie wonder designed them.
JD and Footlocker are good.

Some of them are shite like. But there's a pair of blue Gazelles that I want from there, might get them tomorrow actually. The other stuff's decent as well. Got a Henri Lloyd jacket there recently
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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2006, 12:49:24 am »
I'm not really a trainer person... more of a shoes and jeans man. Plus for whatever reason, I like my clothing 'worn.' It's not usually intentional, I just can't look after my clothes, but worn clothing suits me.... therefore a nice sparkling pair of trainers probably wouldn't last long on me.

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« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2006, 09:15:30 am »




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lol! ;D

i bought some from st johns once cuz i was so skint, they are only so cheap cuz they look like someone sat on them when you get them out the box!
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« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2006, 03:57:11 pm »
that shop on bold street which had the car in for a bit is decent, so is drome
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« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2006, 04:21:41 pm »
Anyone remember these  ???

I had a pair exactly like these in around 1980.Got them in Liverpool and every fucker was wearing them.
Called Kios, anyone know where you can still get these from, would love another pair size 9.
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« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2006, 04:28:27 pm »
ive never seen them before mate, or anyhting like them ;)

have you checked ebay?
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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2006, 04:34:03 pm »
ive never seen them before mate, or anyhting like them ;)

have you checked ebay?

Alright woozie.

Yeh there is one pair on ebay,size 4 though  :(

Honestly around 1980,ish as many people in Liverpool where wearing Kios as much as Stan Smith or Kickers etc.

They look fuckin shite now but in there day they where  8)
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Re: football fashion/liverpool
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2006, 09:39:59 pm »
well you can get hold of one through being a business i think, i.e. like macro im not sure how i got mine ive had it a few years now, prob through mate tho. ill try and find out some more info for ya like a phone number or summit.

nice one

wouldn't mind a pair of stans for £15/20....
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« Reply #37 on: May 25, 2006, 11:15:28 pm »
Ordered me a pair of Grand Slams tonight 8)


Bit expensive but they're fuckin good trainers
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« Reply #38 on: May 25, 2006, 11:45:12 pm »
Grand Slams are sound mate. Proper classics.

There's a pair of gold Forest Hills in Open that I fancy buying...might nab them tomorrow
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« Reply #39 on: May 26, 2006, 01:01:52 pm »
Ordered me a pair of Grand Slams tonight 8)


Bit expensive but they're fuckin good trainers


ive not seen them before, do they do em in all white?
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