Topic: The Anfield Wrap

[red_Mark1980]

Can't wait to listen to the 2001 stuff. Anyone of my generation basically in their 30-early 40s this will be one of the greatest seasons ever. Would love if anyone has any good pictures of the Paisley night mosaics against roma.

Saving it up too. I turned 21 in January 2001. I was on a working placement at the time so we all had a bit of cash. Which basically involved us being out every weekend all weekend.

That last week almost killed us

[Crosby Nick]

Loving the Palace game show. Clinton Morrison comes across well to be fair, quite funny.

Neil is spot on about Fowler, Litmanen and Smicer. They just seemed to click straight away and be on the same wavelength. I think Jari had one on a plate but opted to set Fowler up who missed but all the litttle interchanges were a joy to watch.

[Grobbelrevell]

Can't wait to listen to the 2001 stuff. Anyone of my generation basically in their 30-early 40s this will be one of the greatest seasons ever.

Indeed. I was 16/17 in that season, at college doing my A/S levels. My dad basically gave me a note to get me out of the end of year exams so we could go to Dortmund.

Brilliant, and for me, still a somewhat underrated season in our history - very much looking forward to the shows covering it.

Feels insane that it's 20 years ago, by the way.

[Crosby Nick]

I’d just finished uni. Was living with my parents working a crap job in Stockport surrounded by prototype Phil Fodens but meant I got to go to quite a lot of games that season on my Dad’s ST.

I think Owen, Heskey and Fowler all hit 20 goals that season and they all seemed to peak at different times so we always had one of them in form.

[Fitzy.]

I’d just finished uni. Was living with my parents working a crap job in Stockport surrounded by prototype Phil Fodens but meant I got to go to quite a lot of games that season on my Dad’s ST.

I think Owen, Heskey and Fowler all hit 20 goals that season and they all seemed to peak at different times so we always had one of them in form.

Rob mentioned the Ipswich game at home that we lost 0-1. Interestingly, the overriding narrative after that was that Liverpool lacked real threat without Heskey. Possibly a lazy analysis.

[Jookie]

Can't wait to listen to the 2001 stuff. Anyone of my generation basically in their 30-early 40s this will be one of the greatest seasons ever.

I think it's arguably the greatest season for me personally (been going since 1985/86).

1987/88 was a magical season due to John Barnes individually and collectively the style and level of football the team played. However, it was tinged with disappointment based on the end of the season. Didn't go the season unbeaten when it looked possible and beaten in FA Cup Final by Wimbledon.

Istanbul and the CL run in 2004/05 was better as single thing but that season was torrid at times. Particularly the domestic competitions.

2018/19 and 2019/20 were obviously massive highlights. Winning CL and then the PL (whilst getting 97 and 99 points in consecutive seasons) should always be viewed as highlights.

However, from a personal perspective I went to the game a lot less in recent years. In 2000/01 I was early 20's and I went to virtually every home game and a fair few aways. Also managed to get tickets for League Cup and UEFA Cup finals. It was a season punctuated with highs  (and some lows) throughout. Getting that League Cup win was absolutely massive for the club. Seems strange to say but looking back it's maybe one of the most important trophies we've won in our modern history. It set us up for the rest of the season, 2 others trophies and CL qualification. I think that UEFA Cup run and the experience it gave helped in 2004/05. Lots of players still had that experience of 2000/01 and progressing against big clubs when it came to the CL run.

The end of the season was immense. Getting beat at Leeds on Good Friday was a hammer blow and it felt like the season was about to fall flat. The Goodison derby win that followed re-ignited the season. The Barcelona home win in the semi-final of the UEFA Cup is one of the most under rated nights in our recent European history. It was definitely the biggest game we'd played in Europe since returning from the European ban. I didn't make Cardiff for the FA Cup final but got to Dortmund. What a trip and day that was. The only surreal thing was how quiet it was when every got out of the stadium after the game. I think the FA Cup final win on the Saturday, travel and the madness of the UEFA Cup final had sapped all emotion out of everyone.

[Crosby Nick]

Rob mentioned the Ipswich game at home that we lost 0-1. Interestingly, the overriding narrative after that was that Liverpool lacked real threat without Heskey. Possibly a lazy analysis.

That was mid December wasn’t it? I think Owen started the season on fire and then got injured at Derby? Heskey scored a hat trick in that game and had a very strong Autumn before the goals started to dry up a little for him in the second half of the season. Don’t think Robbie was getting much of a look in at that time so Heskey probably was our biggest threat at that time.

[Fitzy.]

That was mid December wasn’t it? I think Owen started the season on fire and then got injured at Derby? Heskey scored a hat trick in that game and had a very strong Autumn before the goals started to dry up a little for him in the second half of the season. Don’t think Robbie was getting much of a look in at that time so Heskey probably was our biggest threat at that time.

Agree. It also shouldn’t be ignored that, despite the final outcomes, this side was capable of falling flat every few games. They weren’t unbeatable. The classic case-in-point was beating United and Arsenal without conceding in consecutive games and then within a week going to Middlesbrough and losing 1-0. While Houllier broadly ridded the side of the latter-day Evans habit of losing/drawing to dross, we still didn’t have enough to close in on United and Arsenal - that (almost) happened the following season.

[tmsneil]

Review stuff has been good, especially from the 'Review' people (Neil, Sean, Dan, Paul), but am I the only one missing Gutters a bit? - I thought there were meant to be three a week, but seems like there hasn't been one for a while. I understand wanting to do lookback stuff and specials like 2001 when there are no games, but personally I'd still like as much current stuff as possible, especially when it's a big summer for renewing the squad.

There's just a bit of a breath this week, let it percolate a bit. So we are looking like:

Wednesday 9th
Saturday 12th
Tuesday 15th
Thursday 17th
Sunday 20th

As Gutters.

Also the Friday Night video is now on transfers. Talking Reds will be transfer-y and we are looking at getting another few bits in on audio and video. TAW itself next Monday will transfer/squad led unless Liverpool decide to sell Anfield or something.

[Red_Mist]

What a trip and day that was. The only surreal thing was how quiet it was when every got out of the stadium after the game. I think the FA Cup final win on the Saturday, travel and the madness of the UEFA Cup final had sapped all emotion out of everyone.

Yep, I remember that too. It was just sheer exhaustion. There were fans, head in hands unable to watch anymore, under the stand on the concourse whilst the game was on. It was a bit like Istanbul in a way. That had a surreal feel on the buses back to the city.

On both occasions though, the reviving qualities of a couple of post-match ales meant it wasn’t quiet for long.

[bradders1011]

I'd watch the film version of Three Priests in Bucharest.

[TepidT2O]

Great interview with Gary Mac

[Grobbelrevell]

2001 Fans Stories is superb.

Getting the dog collars on in Rome to get a bevvy is glorious  . Love all these kinds of anecdotes.

Made me want to go back and revisit Nicky Allt's book 'The Boys From The Mersey'.

Brilliant stuff.

[jillcwhomever]

The latest player profile, is a certain Jordan Henderson loving these profiles.

[decosabute]

There's just a bit of a breath this week, let it percolate a bit. So we are looking like:

Wednesday 9th
Saturday 12th
Tuesday 15th
Thursday 17th
Sunday 20th

As Gutters.

Also the Friday Night video is now on transfers. Talking Reds will be transfer-y and we are looking at getting another few bits in on audio and video. TAW itself next Monday will transfer/squad led unless Liverpool decide to sell Anfield or something.

Sound, thanks.

Alex Miller show was very insightful, especially the earlier bits about his role under Houllier.

Halfway through the Henderson show and it's brilliant - Kevin Ball especially was superb.

[DangerScouse]

Some excellent off season content so far!

[kavah]

Some really great stuff - absolutely superb. There must have been a spike in Youtube viewings this week as every Liverpool fan has gone to watch obscure European and League cup aways not seen for for decades 

Nicky Barmby scored some screamers in the UEFA 

[Fitzy.]

Some really great stuff - absolutely superb. There must have been a spike in Youtube viewings this week as every Liverpool fan has gone to watch obscure European and League cup aways not seen for for decades 

Haha. Yes, I have been looking back at a few big moments.

[red_Mark1980]

Holy crap.

Just had a look at the DVD review on Amazon and it's over £50.

My old man had the VHS back in the day. Christ. £50

[Grobbelrevell]

Holy crap.

Just had a look at the DVD review on Amazon and it's over £50.

My old man had the VHS back in the day. Christ. £50

Pretty sure I had it on DVD and gave it away, along with a pile of others.

Feels like an error now.

[red_Mark1980]

The Clinton Morrison interview was brilliant.

I was on the Kop that night, baying for blood as a 21 year old full of drink.
I know he never said "I'm better than Michael Owen" but I honestly bristled when I heard he was going to be on. Brilliant as ever from Gibbo.

The stuff around 2001 and the profile on Henderson has been nothing short of brilliant. I'm not so foolish to think this has been thrown together in the last week or so. It's undoubtedly taken months (in fact I'm 99% certain Kev Walsh says "last year in Rome").

Just wanted to say a massive well done to all involved. Linzi Boyle was probably a big part of sorting it all while she was still there I'm sure.

[L4Red]

The Clinton Morrison interview was brilliant.

I was on the Kop that night, baying for blood as a 21 year old full of drink.
I know he never said "I'm better than Michael Owen" but I honestly bristled when I heard he was going to be on. Brilliant as ever from Gibbo.

The stuff around 2001 and the profile on Henderson has been nothing short of brilliant. I'm not so foolish to think this has been thrown together in the last week or so. It's undoubtedly taken months (in fact I'm 99% certain Kev Walsh says "last year in Rome").

Just wanted to say a massive well done to all involved. Linzi Boyle was probably a big part of sorting it all while she was still there I'm sure.

[red_Mark1980]

They'll be plenty who don't get my ever so subtle hilarity

[Jack_Bauer]

Holy crap.

Just had a look at the DVD review on Amazon and it's over £50.

My old man had the VHS back in the day. Christ. £50

The old season review DVDs are pretty pricey these days especially since you can only get them on the secondary market and those sellers on Amazon know how to jack the prices up on things.

[Fromola]

Holy crap.

Just had a look at the DVD review on Amazon and it's over £50.

My old man had the VHS back in the day. Christ. £50

I had it on VHS. Must have watched it a ton of times that summer.

[meady1981]

I often think the Alves game meant more to me than Istanbul. Well, the culmination of that whole season really. I started supporting in 91 so had only ever seen us trading on past glories as a 'top' team, even though we just weren't good enough to be one. Still stuck in our old ways for much of the 90's with a few players still left from Kenny's reign. That cup win felt like it was ours (the younger generation - I was 20 in 2001). The real turning point in shaking the past from our shoulders with only the future as a modern team to really look forward to. The nerves of Barcelona at Anfield will always stay with me. And the elation of Owens goal against Arsenal. Plus I could drink a shit load more back then. 

[Guz-kop]

Fans stories podcast is just superb. Could've gone on for double the time. One of the best

[klopptopia]

So much great content at the minute but the Henderson profile stood out to me. Especially the first part with Kevin Ball who added some many little snippets about what he was like as a kid. Fabulous stuff

[s_andrews89]

I was 11 for the FA cup final in '01. My third LFC match and how me dad managed to get us tickets I'll never know.

Listened to the cup final review yesterday and just smiled all the way through. How we won it I'll never know. Henchoz saying he never intended to save it, just make himself as big as possible had me in stitches!

What a day. What a week. Thank you to everyone who was involved in the recording, it was perfect!

I bloody love this football club!

[klopptopia]

Think the wrong pro view has been uploaded? It’s the post villa defeat one

[klopptopia]

Think the wrong pro view has been uploaded? It’s the post villa defeat one

Seems sorted now on the app at least

[Hij]

Klopps summer, transfer shows, the latest Pro View re: Gini

Now we're talking!

[Alan_X]

Thanks to Neil for mentioning the Phil Scraton thread. For anyone who listened to the podcasts and wants to contribute the thread is here:

https://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=347779.0

[kavah]

^ what show was that on?

[meady1981]

Following on from the free stadium show, I’d like to hear an in depth show on future expansion from people with knowledge of all the facets of how these things get built. You get all the usual wild shouts at this stage about making everything bigger (without any logistical thought about the space and impact on the area) but it’s obviously something that’s going to be extremely hard to do with the other two stands. What kind of options are there (from a architects point of view?), how would the club go about purchasing the houses behind the SKD, is that even a viable option in respect to the people who live there? How would going to 70k affect the local area and would the council even allow it? What are the financial benefits of going above 61k this seems to be the sweet spot for most stadia.
I personally don’t think FSG will go any bigger but are they future proofing the area behind the Kop etc?

[Andy_lfc]

I personally don’t think FSG will go any bigger but are they future proofing the area behind the Kop etc?

Not even for the mooted 5-tier Dunkin' Donuts Kop and triple height main stand with tube slide exit?

Yes, your historic contributions to the Anfield redevelopment thread has apparently burned itself in to my brain.

[red_Mark1980]

Travel is the largest thing in my mind. Clearly as the stadium gets bigger there's a bigger impact on how people get to (and more importantly) from the ground. The old disused Canada Dock line should be modernised and put into use

[meady1981]

Not even for the mooted 5-tier Dunkin' Donuts Kop and triple height main stand with tube slide exit?

Yes, your historic contributions to the Anfield redevelopment thread has apparently burned itself in to my brain.

As Meady1981's lawyer, I'd like to point out that my client never met or was ever in contact with former Mayor Anderson, regarding planning permission and contracts obtaining to plans for a 90k seater Kop. No money or food ever changed hands and any work carried out by him was never ever done under duress.

[Crosby Nick]

Good work from Gibbo with his Partridge reference in the fixtures chat. Lovely stuff.

[redgriffin73]

Good work from Gibbo with his Partridge reference in the fixtures chat. Lovely stuff.

Haha yes, although I was disappointed by the lack of response to it! This country.