Topic: "Green and Gold, it's O5e from Molde!" - Cornering like a reliant robin..

[Max_powers]

Already seing Utd fans claiming Wales qualification as a moral victory for Utd due to Giggs being manager, they literally will take any crumb they can get these days [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]

Its all due to Giggs IMO. The next Utd manager if I ever saw one. He can be their Pep, their Lampard.

[idontknow]

Its all due to Giggs IMO. The next Utd manager if I ever saw one. He can be their Pep, their Lampard.

Giggs would make United into one big happy family.

[BarryCrocker]

Nervous about what? Top 4 is gone for both Utd and Spurs. This season is a write off for Oleh, he is building for the futurah.

Man United are playing Spurs on 4/12. Old manager playing the person who replaced him, who's seriously under the pump and could easily be replaced by someone who was unavailable until this week.

[Zlen]

Giggs would make United into one big happy family.

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[GreatEx]

Disgraceful that O7e is still getting called O14e on the thread title. Where's the respect? Where's the decorum?

I take it back, let's just leave it for a few months, for the lols

[Henry Gale]

Nervous about what? Top 4 is gone for both Utd and Spurs. This season is a write off for Oleh, he is building for the futurah.

Top 4 gone? Spurs are 11 points off top 4 with nearly 80 points to play for. Leicester and Chelsea could quite easily lose a handfull of games as neither of them are top teams with big squads.

I can't see Utd going on an unbeaten run because they are shite but I can with Spurs.

[rob1966]

Top 4 gone? Spurs are 11 points off top 4 with nearly 80 points to play for. Leicester and Chelsea could quite easily lose a handfull of games as neither of them are top teams with big squads.

I can't see Utd going on an unbeaten run because they are shite but I can with Spurs.

I'd say 6th was achievable

[beardsleyismessimk1]

United Vs United the bug game this weekend on Sunday. I favour the home team to take this one. They ran us close. I cant see Manchester being up for this one. Sheffield will be chomping at the bit to get stuck in to these.

[please, I have my reasons for it but...]

There is a piece in The Athletic now that they're not interested in Pochettino and only focused on the Ole project.

[Schmidt]

There is a piece in The Athletic now that they're not interested in Pochettino and only focused on the Ole project.

Amazing. How can they not see that he's genuinely awful?

[FiSh77]

Amazing. How can they not see that he's genuinely awful?

Take the LFC tinted glasses off mate, he's fucking brilliant

[Dim Glas]

There is a piece in The Athletic now that they're not interested in Pochettino and only focused on the Ole project.

A few quotes from it, won't copy the whole thing obviously as it's behind a paywall:
https://theathletic.com/1396462/2019/11/22/why-manchester-united-are-no-longer-desperate-for-pochettino-even-if-they-did-sound-him-out-on-the-m25/

The emotion of that March evening certainly helped to compel Ed Woodward to award him the job full-time.

But in truth, the Pochettino plan had been set aside long before. It was after just two games that Woodward, on a visit to Solskjaer’s office, asked how things were going and was impressed to instead be shown a flip chart of what United’s team might look like in three years. Solskjaer had been watching his old club from afar and, now in situ, was already thinking of the future.

The subsequent losses (eight in the final 12 games after defeating Paris Saint-Germain in the Champions League last 16, a run that also saw only two wins) looked ugly but his prediction was borne out and in the summer he committed to his strategy even at personal risk. Alexis Sanchez and Romelu Lukaku would have enhanced the 2019-20 squad, but Solskjaer is looking seasons ahead.

For instance, Mason Greenwood now has space to come through.
Before United’s most recent game, against Brighton & Hove Albion, Solskjaer summed up his approach. “It’s always been our philosophy to give young players with the right attitude a chance,” he said. “If it takes a couple of years for him (Greenwood) to come through, it’s worth it. I’m managing for Man United, not for me.”

Looks like he's got them hooked with his stumbled upon bringing through youth strategy! Which is somewhat hilarious, being as he was happy to spend £150 mill in the summer too, seems he wants best of both worlds 

[newterp]

**quickly crafts a flip chart for work**

[Nobby Reserve]

**quickly crafts a flip chart for work**

 

[Hazell]

**quickly crafts a flip chart for work**

[diglet]

**quickly crafts a flip chart for work**

 

May we all be lucky enough to work somewhere where the boss is as easily impressed as Ed.

[beardsleyismessimk1]

A guy who has no track record in bringing through the youth and helping them excel is in charge of doing just that. It's so hodgepodge Esque with his 30 years of football know how. He wasn't even a part of the class of 92. So he doesn't even have that to fall back on as something he was involved in.

[FiSh77]

A guy who has no track record in bringing through the youth and helping them excel is in charge of doing just that. It's so hodgepodge Esque with his 30 years of football know how. He wasn't even a part of the class of 92. So he doesn't even have that to fall back on as something he was involved in.

Yeah but he's got a flip chart, leave him alone

[afc tukrish]

Yeah but he's got a flip chart, leave him alone

Shades of Moyes and the whiteboards in the bunker...

[Fitzy.]

Right now, who would you prefer to win when Spurs play United in a few games time?

[Statto Red]

Right now, who would you prefer to win when Spurs play United in a few games time?

VAR , preferably end 0-0 or any score draw.

[FiSh77]

Spurs are a team from London, anybody considering them a rival is either a cockney or a fucking bad wool, hope they batter the scruffy c*nts

[beardsleyismessimk1]

I would rather spurs just because I have never wanted united to win anything

[GreatEx]

Spurs, no question. Botg teams irrelevant to our aims but the cf comedy is greater with a United loss.

[dimwit]

Right now, who would you prefer to win when Spurs play United in a few games time?

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/CiDvWFUil3k" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/CiDvWFUil3k</a>

[4pool]

Britain's richest man, Sir Jim Ratcliffe, has said it would be "dumb money" to buy Manchester United -- the team he supported as a boy -- after claiming that the club have "lost the plot" since Mr. Ferguson retired as manager in 2013.

Ratcliffe, who is worth a reported £20 billion following the success of Ineos, his multi-national chemicals company, bought Ligue 1 club Nice for €110m in August after exploring moves for Chelsea, Newcastle and Leeds United.

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But speaking to The Times, Ratcliffe said he did not consider United because "[Ineos] never wants to be the dumb money in town, never, never."

"Not at the moment, no," Ratcliffe said, when asked about buying United. "They are in quite a big pickle as a business.

"They haven't got the manager selection right, haven't bought well. They have been the dumb money, which you see with players like Fred.

"We won't look elsewhere until we have had a good run here [at Nice]. We need to find out how to be successful before you ever want to write a big cheque. It's quite difficult.

"United have spent an immense amount since Ferguson left and been poor, to put it mildly. Shockingly poor, to be honest.

"We have a different approach here to be moderately intelligent about it. Try to do it more grass roots, trying to locate young talent.

"Some clubs seem to have an ability to do that, Southampton, Lille. United have done it really poorly. They have lost the plot there somehow."

Ratcliffe toured Chelsea's Cobham training ground while considering a move to buy the Roman Abramovich-owned club, but he said the valuations of Premier League clubs was another barrier to buying an English team.

"You quickly get into some pretty stratospheric numbers," he added. "And even though clubs have those valuations today, nobody has ever paid those amounts of money.

"How much did Abramovich pay for Chelsea, £100m? The Glazers [at United], what £500m? You can say it's worth three, four billion but no one has ever paid those sums.

"Ineos has always tried to take a sensible approach. We don't like squandering money or we wouldn't be where we are today. It's part of our DNA, trying to spend sensibly."

[dudleyred]

"Ineos has always tried to take a sensible approach. We don't like squandering money or we wouldn't be where we are today. It's part of our DNA, trying to spend sensibly."

Given he says Solskjaer the wrong choice he doesn’t half sound like him!

[beardsleyismessimk1]

Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer: "It's a clear gap in the league between top four and I don't know how many teams within a range of three or four points. It's about consistency now.

"We turned a corner, we felt, performance-wise and with results after the last international break but it's so tight I'm just looking forward to this game. We need to have a good performance and result."

Yet another corner turned.  They'll have to find another one after today hopefully

[Andy @ Allerton!]

The problem that club has is that it actively wants to lose games to put pressure on Liverpool.

Remember just how much they were desperate to lose against City last season and that went from the supporters, through the players and even to the manager.

Their delight at losing games that they hoped would derail us was funny to see.

You can see them getting a thumping from Manchester City again this season and again delighting in it - no matter how much it hurts them as a club which is beautiful to see.

[kavah]

The INEOS fella about Fred
He actually a decent player, in the right team with the right coach.
It's his name though isn't it.

[JC the Messiah]

The problem that club has is that it actively wants to lose games to put pressure on Liverpool.

Remember just how much they were desperate to lose against City last season and that went from the supporters, through the players and even to the manager.

Their delight at losing games that they hoped would derail us was funny to see.

You can see them getting a thumping from Manchester City again this season and again delighting in it - no matter how much it hurts them as a club which is beautiful to see.

I get their fans might have wanted to lose, so to help out our "enemies", but just don't think the players think or act like that. They'd have to care passionately about United to think that way for starters, and that isn't evident.

[rob1966]

I get their fans might have wanted to lose, so to help out our "enemies", but just don't think the players think or act like that. They'd have to care passionately about United to think that way for starters, and that isn't evident.

That is why they won't mind getting a hiding. Caring about Utd would mean defeats hurt, not giving two fucks makes it easy get twatted, then to get in the Bentley and drive to the multimillion pound spread in Alderley Edge without a care in the world.

[Red Beret]

I get their fans might have wanted to lose, so to help out our "enemies", but just don't think the players think or act like that. They'd have to care passionately about United to think that way for starters, and that isn't evident.

I think United players are more likely to do it than Everton players to be honest. Everton fans are so hyper toxic towards us that I think it galvanises their players' professional pride to try and get a result regardless of the opposition. They're just so limited that its unlikely to go in their favour no matter how hard they try.

On the other hand, United has just the right balance of animosity of fans and players who have enjoyed recent historical success and awareness of their current status that they'll try... less hard, shall we say?

[JC the Messiah]

Just don't see it. To want to help Liverpool's rivals would mean understanding and buying in to what it means to be a united fan, the history, etc.

They don't try hard enough to win normally to suggest they try even harder to lose if it might be at the detriment of Liverpool.

I'm sure Pogba, Fred, De Gea and whoever else don't think about Liverpool when they go out to face city or whoever else. Too egocentric to think that's the case for me. Raising their game against us is different, as they're focused on the game at hand.

[Zlen]

If Sheffield play as well as they did against us or Spurs they’ll do some serious damage to Ole’s boys. Could be a day to bring on Man United’s best player - Mr Penalty, to stand a proper chance against Sheffield.

[Bend It Like Aurelio]

Skolskjaer just called David James the ‘best defensive winger in the world’. In - the - world.

You can’t make this shit up if you had to.

[Joff]

Skolskjaer just called David James the ‘best defensive winger in the world’. In - the - world.

You can’t make this shit up if you had to.

Quite tall for a winger as well.

[CraigDS]

Skolskjaer just called David James the ‘best defensive winger in the world’. In - the - world.

You can’t make this shit up if you had to.

I mean you obviously can, because Oleh is clearly making it up as he goes along.

[Dazzer23]

Sheffield Utd should be out of sight here. How can the richest club in the world be so shit?! It’s a genuine question, I’m honestly completely bewildered.

[4pool]

Manchester United manager Ole Gunnar Solskjaer has said Daniel James is the "best defensive winger" in world football.

"He is very analytical and is critical of himself, so he is the right type," he said. "The attributes are what you see first. His speed, his one-against-one skills.

"He is probably the best defensive winger in the world with his honesty, commitment and the way he does his recovery runs and doing his back tackles.