Yet you (we) all do it. There's about as much objective discussion in this forum as in a UKIP campaign leaflet. Humans lie and they lie to themselves to justify their lies.
The discussion on Momentum is driven by people who fundamentally disagree with Momentum, so they ignore their own take on the truth to use a discussion on truth to attack Momentum. SP has just admitted this, essentially, in a post above.
Stop lying to yourselves that you are any better than Momentum/Tories/etc. You have your own agendas and you frame your own interpretations of truth as facts.
I could be lying though to suit my own agenda(s).
Most of my responses to Momentum memes involve pulling the original source stats / quotes and showing that the version presented is just not true. Quotes and statistics are objectively true or false. The stats are either presented correctly or not. The person either said a quote or they did not, or they added qualifications that had been removed.
There is no opinion there. It is not a complex political argument which is neither provable nor disprovable. It is straight misrepresentation of something that is freely available. It is deliberate falsehood, pumped out in large volume that relies on the vast majority of people not having time to check anything. I find this incredibly insidious. Even if you are gungho for Momentum it should concern you, because what Momentum do, other groups can do - and you won't agree with that. Britain First use the same techniques.
If you sacrifice the truth, the least scrupulous will prevail. Witness Trump and Frottage.
There is an imbalance in the debunking of dodgy memes on RAWK. Because of the nature of the members, there are far more Momentum memes than from the right. Generally the posters that would post Tory memes tend to be banned for being obnoxious turds. My default position is that the Tories are lying - so there is little motivation to confirm it - what little I see is confirmation enough. Labour claim the moral high ground on so many societal issues, that it is incumbent on them to not stoop to the gutter.
The sad fact is that there is no need to lie. There is enough dirt on this government to make the points that they want to without exaggeration. Austerity is a travesty, that is easily skewered. I just expect better of the left.
There is an awful lot of discussion based on facts in this forum.
