Topic: How many points do you expect in the next 5 games? 2022/2023 Edition

[ScouserAtHeart]

Right, this has sort of become a tradition so here we go, onwards and upwards. Remember it's in blocks of 5. Maybe we can do a block of 8 games for the end of the season

Fulham (A) - 3
Palace (H) - 3
United (A) - 3
Bournemouth (H) - 3
Newcastle (H) - 3

Newcastle game might actually be tricky, interesting to see who plays since that's Wednesday and we play Everton on Saturday

[redk84]

Fulham (A) - 1
Palace (H) - 3
United (A) - 3
Bournemouth (H) - 3
Newcastle (H) - 3

These are all very winnable games. And a rocket up our arses has been provided in the opening game.
At the very least, 3 wins and we're ok. As crazy as that seems

[killer-heels]

We need to win the next 4.

[disgraced cake]

4 wins please, redmen. Let's get those and we can just look at the Fulham game as a frustrating afternoon and nothing more. If we can get to 13 points from 15 I think most would have taken that before the start of the season even if the first 5 were all very winnable games.

[Pistolero]

Beat Palace. Take it from there

[Lynndenberries]

All 4 will be tough. We need three points and a good performance against Palace to right the ship.

[johnny74]

The team doesn't seem right at the moment so expect probably a bit of a mix. Who knows. Klopp is good at fixing things usually.

[downtown]

Next 5 in the league:

Wolves (H)
Chelsea (A)
Brighton (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)

genuinely a bit concerned if we don't get our act together pronto. Think we'll need at least 10 from this batch. Wolves at Home is the easiest on paper and even that proved to be a huge pain in the arse in the title-decider game in May.

[Mozology]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 1 or 0
Brighton (H) 3
Arsenal (A) 1 or 3
City (H) 1 or 0

We'll get between 9 to 11 points.

[naYoRHa2b]

6 points and that's being optimistic as Brighton are better than anyone we've played yet.

Don't expect anything in the away games and City will turn us over. This is all going off the fact that we keep playing the way we have in the opening 6 games.

[Dougle]

Next 5 in the league:

Wolves (H)
Chelsea (A)
Brighton (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)

genuinely a bit concerned if we don't get our act together pronto. Think we'll need at least 10 from this batch. Wolves at Home is the easiest on paper and even that proved to be a huge pain in the arse in the title-decider game in May.

Hmmm. Reminded of the very often used adage ... "one game at a time". Let's beat Wolves. That's a start.

[Caps4444]

Not sure why people are so confident on top 4.

Arsenal played very well today and they will brush aside the fodder in the league…
Spurs will be very hard to beat
United don’t look great, but they are winning 4 wins on the bounce.
Chelsea will also be there or there about.

We need to be in amongst it, we can’t be playing catch-up….already 5/6 points behind.

We are still one of the favourites, but we need to start getting on a run.

[Caps4444]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 1 or 0
Brighton (H) 3
Arsenal (A) 1 or 3
City (H) 1 or 0

We'll get between 9 to 11 points.

I think we need to get 9 at a minimum….and that means not losing to the big three in that set….Chelsea and Arsenal are 6 pointers, a draw is a minimum.

[RK7]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 0
Brighton (H) 1
Arsenal (A) 1
City (H) 3

[Caps4444]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 0
Brighton (H) 1
Arsenal (A) 1
City (H) 3

Seems Thiago will be back this week…so can see a midfield of Fab , Thiago, Elliot…think will make a huge difference…pretty much our first choice midfield. If that’s the case….can see us winning a lot more

[kennedy81]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 0
Brighton (H) 1
Arsenal (A) 1
City (H) 3

At least equal City's points haul over the next 4 games, and then beat City.

[andy07]

13 dropping points ether against Arsenal or City.  Bournemouth aside we have been off the pace so far and it is time to cluck into gear.

[The Final Third]

Not sure why people are so confident on top 4.

Arsenal played very well today and they will brush aside the fodder in the league…
Spurs will be very hard to beat
United don’t look great, but they are winning 4 wins on the bounce.
Chelsea will also be there or there about.

We need to be in amongst it, we can’t be playing catch-up….already 5/6 points behind.

We are still one of the favourites, but we need to start getting on a run.

Our underlying numbers are amongst the top three..this thread might interest you.

[Caps4444]

Our underlying numbers are amongst the top three..this thread might interest you.

Interesting - thanks for posting it.

I think the big issue has been not scoring first.

Also would be interesting how a league table from last year would look based on those statistics.

[killer-heels]

Our underlying numbers are amongst the top three..this thread might interest you.

Ive read a lot about this and to me it backs the eye test, I think we have been attacking ok. Are our chances high value though?

Either way it shows that even with some building of understanding and personnel change, the attack should be fine.

However, in the eye test the defensive performance is awful and I think the numbers back this up.

[The Final Third]

Ive read a lot about this and to me it backs the eye test, I think we have been attacking ok. Are our chances high value though?

Either way it shows that even with some building of understanding and personnel change, the attack should be fine.

However, in the eye test the defensive performance is awful and I think the numbers back this up.

It's not exactly awful per se - our xGA is ranked 6th in League - but it's not up to our usual standards of course. Still according to expected points we should sit either 3rd or 4th depending on the stats source. Considering the injuries we've had and the fact we've played away at both of our 'traditional' rivals I think we're going to be fine.

[killer-heels]

It's not exactly awful per se - our xGA is ranked 6th in League - but it's not up to our usual standards of course. Still according to expected points we should sit either 3rd or 4th depending on the stats source. Considering the injuries we've had and the fact we've played away at both of our 'traditional' rivals I think we're going to be fine.

xGA measures the quality of chances being given up?

Yes we will be fine.

[The Final Third]

xGA measures the quality of chances being given up?

Yes we will be fine.

xGA = Expected Goals Against - so the sum total of the goals our opposition should have scored. Not specifically the quality of chances given up as this varies from game to game and is a more granular stat but xGA is a quantitative aggregate of the goals we should have conceded on average per game.

[jckliew]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 0
Brighton (H) 3
Arsenal (A) 0
City (H) 1

[Caston]

Think we’ll be much better now Thiago is back.

We’ve probably created enough chances in each game to win but what’s letting us down is the balance in midfield and the transitions, and bloody conceding the first goal!!. Hopefully Arthur will get up to speed now and Curtis gets fully fit to take some of the burden of Thiago. Am a bit worried about Fabinho as we don’t really have anyone to swap him out with to prevent injury.

We’re good enough to win the away games coming up.

[RogerTheRed]

15 will be the right answer 👍

[killer-heels]

Next 5 in the league:

Wolves (H)
Chelsea (A)
Brighton (H)
Arsenal (A)
City (H)

genuinely a bit concerned if we don't get our act together pronto. Think we'll need at least 10 from this batch. Wolves at Home is the easiest on paper and even that proved to be a huge pain in the arse in the title-decider game in May.

Its a tough set of games but if we can come out of it with around 10/11 points then we will be set up fairly well. We will then only have 5 games left until the world cup and they are generally decent fixtures.

[Tokyoite]

Wolves (H) - 3
Chelsea (A) - 3
Brighton (H) - 3
Arsenal (A) - 1
City (H) - 1

I'm trying to stay positive and am confident Klopp and the team will recover from the slow start and start playing the way we know they can.

That said, it's interesting that by the time we play the sportwashers, we'd have played United, Everton, Chelsea and Arsenal away whilst their hardest game would have been against Spurs. (if I remember right that is) Could be I'm only paying attention to it now because of our poor start to the season though.

[ScouserAtHeart]

Can I delete this thread? I've jinxed us

[MonsLibpool]

We can't afford to lose against teams that will be around us in the table because we'd be far off if we do. They are "Must not lose" games. It's better to adopt a "wait and see" approach for the City game.

[Simplexity]

We need to basically win all 5 of those to do anything in the league this year.

[Coolie High]

We need to basically win all 5 of those to do anything in the league this year.

Yep.

[Coolie High]

Its a tough set of games but if we can come out of it with around 10/11 points then we will be set up fairly well. We will then only have 5 games left until the world cup and they are generally decent fixtures.

If we have any true aspirations of winning the league we would need at least 13 points from those fixtures.

[anandg_lfc]

Wolves (H) - 3
Chelsea (A) - 3
Brighton (H) - 3
Arsenal (A) - 3
City (H) - 3

It's going to be a difficult run in. If we can win against wolves and chelsea, can see us going on a good long run till the WC break. Thiago and Jota are going to be massive for us.

[redk84]

This is a tough run in comparison to the recent "easy" run

Now I think whatever happens we have to beat City and match them in terms of results in the other games, whether that happens who knows - they are the marker as once we get ourselves sorted nobody but them can match the way we accumulate points

It's just hard to call as we seem way off it, but here goes

Wolves (H) - 3
Chelsea (A) - 1
Brighton (H) - 1
Arsenal (A) - 3
City (H) - 3

[stonecold_jpm]

We are already down points as Everton should have been in the current 5 games. City starts off the next batch of 5 which ends with Spurs away.

Having started with 8 points ouf of 15, we really could do with winning the next 4 just to get 13 out of 15 for the 2nd lot of games but I think we will fall just short.

Everton - 1
Wolves - 3
Chelsea - 3
Brighton - 3
Arsenal - 1

[Caps4444]

Wolves (H) 3
Chelsea (A) 0
Brighton (H) 3
Arsenal (A) 0
City (H) 1

If that happens, then top 4 is going to be really tough…..

[kennedy81]

We need to basically win all 5 of those to do anything in the league this year.

Winning all five would put us 2 points behind City at worst, so I'd say that's a bit of an exaggeration.

[TheShanklyGates]

At our best we could reasonably expect 13-15 points from our next 5. On current form it's more likely to somewhere in the 6-9 range.

[Caps4444]

Need to beat Wolves and Brighton.
Minimum 3 draws against the others…but 1 win and 2 draws would be terrific.