Topic: Sarah Everard* Update Jan 2023 - Met Police rapist.

[Red-Soldier]

I'm not surprised that our public services are institutionally racist and mysogynist:

Author of London fire brigade report warns of racism and misogyny in other organisations

Nazir Afzal calls for national inquiry and says he has been contacted by NHS, BBC and police about issues they face

The problems of institutional misogyny and racism uncovered in the London fire brigade could be widespread across dozens of other public institutions, the author of a report into systemic failings in the service has warned.

Nazir Afzal, a former chief prosecutor who carried out the review, called for a national inquiry into other public bodies, saying he has been approached by several people who work for them.

The independent report into the London fire brigade, includesthe anonymous accounts of more than 2,000 staff members detailing abuse by co-workers, including from a black firefighter who had a noose placed above his locker and a Muslim colleague who had bacon and sausages stuffed in his pockets. Female firefighters reported being groped, beaten and having their helmets filled with urine.

Speaking at a briefing for media at the headquarters of the London fire brigade on Saturday morning, Afzal said he had been contacted by employees across a range of prominent institutions including the NHS, BBC and various police forces.

He called for a national inquiry to address these concerns, particularly of misogyny.

“These organisations are pivotal to British society yet people within them are seriously concerned about the way they are being treated in these organisations. There are 43 police forces with problems,” he said.

The London fire commissioner, Andy Roe, told the briefing that from Monday five years of complaints and allegations about bullying and harassment would be passed to an external organisation to be looked at.

Roe said he expected some LFB staff would be dismissed following the examination of these complaints and expected to see more complaints emerge.

He added: “We are going to take a zero-tolerance approach to bullying and harassment and discrimination.”

The report, titled Independent Cultural Review of London Fire Brigade, was published after a 12-month period in which six experts visited stations and gathered submissions from staff at all levels. While more than 4,500 of the London fire brigade’s 5,000 staff are firefighters, only 425 are women and slightly more than 500 are from ethnic minorities.

The review’s 21 recommendations, accepted by Roe, include the introduction of body-worn video by firefighters, a historic review of complaints about racism, misogyny and bullying over the past five years and secure facilities for all women in stations.

The report was commissioned after the death of Jaden Francois-Esprit, a trainee at Wembley fire station who took his own life aged 21 in August 2020. Francois-Esprit was teased about the Caribbean food he brought in for lunch and made 16 requests to be transferred to another station, an inquest heard last year.

When asked if anyone had been held to account for Francois-Esprit’s death Roe said: “I’m accountable.”

The review found that in 2020 95% of firefighters were white.

The report stated: “We don’t have an understanding of what diversity means.”

One of the struggles Francois-Esprit had was not getting appropriate support for dyslexia. According to the report, 634 LFB staff have been diagnosed with or are under investigation for whether they should be diagnosed as neurodiverse.

The report found that people of colour were “frequently the target of racist abuse”, which led to some being driven out of LFB with victims “beset with feelings of shame, guilt and fear”.

Earlier on Saturday Gareth Cook, fire brigade’s union regional organiser for London, said: “The LFB report makes for difficult reading. The reported incidents of racism and misogyny are extremely alarming. There is no place for such behaviour or attitudes within the fire and rescue service or within our trade union.”

Cook said the union was committed to working to address the concerns and improve working conditions for members.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/nov/26/london-fire-brigade-head-vows-change-after-damning-report

[reddebs]

^^

It'll be yet another 'lessons will be learnt' load of bollocks.

Reviewing 5yrs worth of complaints?? 

Why not fucking deal with it properly at the time and get the fuckers out.  Instead they pussy foot around them, sweep it under the carpet and move on leaving the victims to pick up the pieces of their destroyed life.

[So… Howard Philips]

^^

It'll be yet another 'lessons will be learnt' load of bollocks.

Reviewing 5yrs worth of complaints?? 

Why not fucking deal with it properly at the time and get the fuckers out.  Instead they pussy foot around them, sweep it under the carpet and move on leaving the victims to pick up the pieces of their destroyed life.

Sadly the public sector is pretty shit at dealing with bad behaviour. There’s a general attitude of not rocking the boat allied with weak management which turns a blind eye to a litany of sins, not helped that some managers are appointed by people as equally incompetent or amateur local politicians masquerading as appointment panels.

 

[reddebs]

Sadly the public sector is pretty shit at dealing with bad behaviour. There’s a general attitude of not rocking the boat allied with weak management which turns a blind eye to a litany of sins, not helped that some managers are appointed by people as equally incompetent or amateur local politicians masquerading as appointment panels.

It's that no accountability thing again isn't it.  Nobody wanting to make tough decisions which leads to even more problems down the line.

Surely a strong HR department would help though and also making sure junior management do their appraisals and reviews on time with proper feedback and follow ups.

Then there's having a proper grievance procedure in place too so the staff have confidence their complaints will be dealt with thoroughly and honestly.

[So… Howard Philips]

It's that no accountability thing again isn't it.  Nobody wanting to make tough decisions which leads to even more problems down the line.

Surely a strong HR department would help though and also making sure junior management do their appraisals and reviews on time with proper feedback and follow ups.

Then there's having a proper grievance procedure in place too so the staff have confidence their complaints will be dealt with thoroughly and honestly.

Oh there’ll be policies and procedures by the dozen with hordes of people writing and updating them.

The problem is that they aren’t followed or completely ignored.

[reddebs]

Oh there’ll be policies and procedures by the dozen with hordes of people writing and updating them.

The problem is that they aren’t followed or completely ignored.

How annoying.  It makes life so much easier and far less stressful when there are good policies and procedures in place.

We can only hope that better management are put in place once labour take over.

[reddebs]

More abusive behaviour by a Met Officer 😡

BBC News - Twickenham: Met officer charged with false imprisonment and assault of woman

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63903676

[gazzalfc]

Just a few bad apples

Not representative of the Met Police (and police in general)

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63914891

Met Police officer charged with two rapes

A serving Metropolitan Police officer has been charged with two counts of rape.

PC Rupert Edwards, attached to the South West Basic Command Unit, was arrested on suspicion of rape on 5 September.

The charges relate to alleged offences in Lambeth and Surrey against two women aged in their 20s and 30s.

PC Edwards, who has been suspended from duty, will appear at Westminster Magistrates' Court later.

The rapes are said to have been committed in Lambeth on 26 August, and in Surrey on 5 September, while he was off duty.

Commander Jon Savell, from the Met's professionalism command, said: "This news is deeply worrying and I recognise the concern it will cause the public and other police officers.

"We took immediate action to suspend PC Edwards from duty when he was first arrested in September.

"Legal proceedings are now active and it is important that I do not comment while that process takes place."

The force said both women were being supported by specially trained officers.

The Met's Directorate of Professional Standards and the Independent Office for Police Conduct have been informed.

[So… Howard Philips]

Another innocent woman murdered by a scumbag, who’d stalked other prospective victims before finding his eventual target;

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-63970290

[John C]

The horrendously sad thing is you don't have to be murdered to die of abuse, women kill themselves because of such c*nts.

[gazzalfc]

Met Police officer David Carrick admits to being serial rapist

David Carrick, 48, pleaded guilty to 49 offences, including 24 counts of rape. His offences spanned 2003 to 2020

He was suspended from duty as an armed officer when he was arrested in October 2021.

The Met has apologised after it emerged he had come to the attention of police over nine incidents, including rape allegations, between 2000 and 2021.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-64289461

Just a few bad apples

Not representative of the Met Police (and police in general).

He has only had his pay stopped last month and have not gone through any disciplinary procedures with him until next week

[jillcwhomever]

Met Police officer David Carrick admits to being serial rapist

David Carrick, 48, pleaded guilty to 49 offences, including 24 counts of rape. His offences spanned 2003 to 2020

He was suspended from duty as an armed officer when he was arrested in October 2021.

The Met has apologised after it emerged he had come to the attention of police over nine incidents, including rape allegations, between 2000 and 2021.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-64289461

Just a few bad apples

Not representative of the Met Police (and police in general).

He has only had his pay stopped last month and have not gone through any disciplinary procedures with him until next week

It's just unbelievable how casual they are, it would almost make you think twice about going to the police now.

[Red-Soldier]

It's just unbelievable how casual they are, it would almost make you think twice about going to the police now.

I grew up hating the smell of bacon and it hasn't dissipated during my adult life.

[I've been a good boy]

It's almost as if they don't mind that kind of behaviour and if someone does get caught, they will be looked after. It's a shame that I no longer look at police officers the same anymore, I feel like most of them have skeletons in the closet.

[reddebs]

The Met needs scrapping and starting again. 

It's nothing more than festering pit of corruption and sexual abuse.

[Snail]

Fuck me, is it true he was in the same unit as Couzens?!

I’m sure lessons will be learnt, anyway. At least no one died this time, eh?

[TSC]

Fuck me, is it true he was in the same unit as Couzens?!

I’m sure lessons will be learnt, anyway. At least no one died this time, eh?

Applications from misogynist murderers and sexual deviants are welcomed.

[Jiminy Cricket]

Applications from misogynist murderers and sexual deviants are welcomed preferred.

[Nick110581]

A truly horrible establishment rotten to the core.

Having dealt with my local Police over a nutcase, I cannot say I am surprised. They protect them and then come out with some bullshit that they will learn from it.

Sickening.   

[Red-Soldier]

A truly horrible establishment rotten to the core.

Having dealt with my local Police over a nutcase, I cannot say I am surprised. They protect them and then come out with some bullshit that they will learn from it.

Sickening.

They have a them against us attitude and that's pretty much it.

[TepidT2O]

This is fucking awful…

But then I think to myself this…

If you surveyed any organisation with that many men, how many would come back as sex pests or sexual predators…

It’s fundamentally depressing to consider…. People we all work with are doing this too, surely? We have to be better at calling it out where and when it begins

[Speedy Molby]

They have a them against us attitude and that's pretty much it.

Hillsborough is widely accepted as the most shameful episode in British police history, yet not a copper has been punished. No wonder they think they can get away with anything.

[Alan_X]

I've changed the title. I won't put that c*nt's name alongside Sarah Everard.

[Sammy5IsAlive]

Surely the Met is now the equivalent of a dysfunctional Local Authority where they can no longer be trusted to get their house in order and so central government needs to step in? Obviously there are some worrying implications of the government running a police force but maybe there could be some kind of cross party solution? It's not enough to fiddle round the edges - they need root and branch reform and it feels like this is unachievable for even the best intentioned senior people within the force.

[killer-heels]

Surely the Met is now the equivalent of a dysfunctional Local Authority where they can no longer be trusted to get their house in order and so central government needs to step in? Obviously there are some worrying implications of the government running a police force but maybe there could be some kind of cross party solution? It's not enough to fiddle round the edges - they need root and branch reform and it feels like this is unachievable for even the best intentioned senior people within the force.

Its too big and too powerful. It needs gutting.

[gazzalfc]

If you surveyed any organisation with that many men, how many would come back as sex pests or sexual predators…

I think you would find just as many. Though you wont find any with warrant cards, powers to stop and search and an overall air of 'control' over the general public.

Policing by consent works when officers are responsible for and with their extended powers. But we are now seeing just how easy it is for those responsibilities to be abused.

But it is not just the responsibilities that are abused. It is the whole system. Obviously unions protect employees when they are going through legal issues and we still believe in anyone being innocent until proven guilty. These inhuman men know that the rules and law were always going to protect them. Least that is now starting to slip

This isn't just a Metropolitan police thing. This is UK wide.

[Red-Soldier]

I think you would find just as many. Though you wont find any with warrant cards, powers to stop and search and an overall air of 'control' over the general public.
[/b]
Policing by consent works when officers are responsible for and with their extended powers. But we are now seeing just how easy it is for those responsibilities to be abused.

But it is not just the responsibilities that are abused. It is the whole system. Obviously unions protect employees when they are going through legal issues and we still believe in anyone being innocent until proven guilty. These inhuman men know that the rules and law were always going to protect them. Least that is now starting to slip

This isn't just a Metropolitan police thing. This is UK wide.

That's the thing, isn't it.  These types of men will be throughout, however, they are attracted to certain positions, as they have disproportional amounts of power and influence over others.

The power that a police officer has over the rest of us is huge, and to think that the force is rife with men like this is a very scary prospect.  He wasn't just a regular officer, he was an elite officer too (just like the murderer of Sarah Everard).

The public sector has a huge problem was intitutional racism and mysogyny.

[Dr. Beaker]

The Met has corruption built in, right from the top. The Commissioner has a guaranteed seat in the Lords (as long as they do as they are told). I don't think this helps.

[Dr. Beaker]

The Met is currently investigating 1,000 allegations of sexual abuse and/or domestic violence against 800 officers, according to BBC News.

[rob1966]

The Rapist
Bastard Dave

What other nicknames do these c*nts have for serving officers? Ste the Serial Killer? Pete the Paedo?

The MET is full of fucking scum.

[reddebs]

So this evil bastard has finally been sacked but has he been sentenced yet?

I can't find anything but then I can't find anything about a trial either so I guess he's just coughed the guilty plea to avoid having to answer questions publicly and to secure a lenient sentence.

I hope they chuck him to the wolves though most likely he'll be in the cushy wing instead!!

[rob1966]

So this evil bastard has finally been sacked but has he been sentenced yet?

I can't find anything but then I can't find anything about a trial either so I guess he's just coughed the guilty plea to avoid having to answer questions publicly and to secure a lenient sentence.

I hope they chuck him to the wolves though most likely he'll be in the cushy wing instead!!

They'll still get to him. I doubt the staff will want to protect the c*nt, others in for rape etc will want to get at his because he's a copper. Kettle of sugared water will be a nice start.

[reddebs]

Another evil bastard Met Police Chief!

BBC News - Met Police chief inspector arrested over child abuse images found dead

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-64321188

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Not sure if I heard this right but I am sure that they just said on the radio that all UK forces will now do a PNC check of all active officers.

My question (to myself when I heard it) is why the fuck wouldn't they have already been doing that,why ?

[TepidT2O]

Yvette Cooper explains some of it here… https://twitter.com/ridgeonsunday/status/1615826711060307968?s=61&t=eEEE5mqgxRUgNxniuSsjVw

Frankly it’s staggering….

I have to do training in safe recruiting, the Police?  Fuck all… that’s just incredible ….literally can’t believe that’s been allowed to happen

[WhereAngelsPlay]

Yvette Cooper explains some of it here… https://twitter.com/ridgeonsunday/status/1615826711060307968?s=61&t=eEEE5mqgxRUgNxniuSsjVw

Frankly it’s staggering….

I have to do training in safe recruiting, the Police?  Fuck all… that’s just incredible ….literally can’t believe that’s been allowed to happen

Thanks.

Crazy isn't it,a vocation that's in the top 10 for attracting psychopaths & they've not thought that it'd be a good idea to do the most basic of criminal checks. 

[liverbloke]

Thanks.

Crazy isn't it,a vocation that's in the top 10 for attracting psychopaths & they've not thought that it'd be a good idea to do the most basic of criminal checks. 

...and misogynists ...and rapists ...and racists ...and paedophiles... etc etc etc

[AndyInVA]

I did think after MeToo and the convictions against historical celeb abusers that this kind of institutional privilege crime would start to stop

with the advent of cell phones that keep all kinds of records and can be used to tape conversations that I had hoped a lot of this kind of abuse would go away and that the institutions themselves would start to take the complainants more seriously

I remember in the 70s and 80s that the institutions couldn't care less about people and did what they wanted and they felt that they set the narrative. Hillsborough being a prime example of this.

It is so depressing that the largest Police force in the UK appears to be in the same mind set 10 years after the Hillsborough Independent Panel and years after I felt the tide turned on police officers/celebs feeling like they were bullet proof because of who they were.

[TSC]

https://news.sky.com/story/serving-met-police-officer-pleads-guilty-to-child-sexual-offences-12794837

[Red-Soldier]

https://news.sky.com/story/serving-met-police-officer-pleads-guilty-to-child-sexual-offences-12794837

"These offences are made all the more sickening by the fact that some of the image offences were committed while PC Chehab was in a role as a Safer Schools officer attached to a secondary school in Enfield between May 2021 and his arrest in August 2021."