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Safe Standing ( split from: Liverpool confirm decision to redevelop Anfield)
Peter McGurk:
--- Quote from: The Grinch on January 21, 2013, 12:44:19 pm ---If you are trying to encourage more local youngsters wouldn't the bars and eats be more likely to be of the sausage and chips and a couple of cans a lager on the Albert Village wall variety.
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Yes but it would be better for the club that the wall belongs to the club.
How much do you reckon most people spend on going to the match in total and how much do you reckon goes to the club. 50%? 70%? Whatever - it's an appreciable difference.
CraigDS:
If the club looked at pricing the beers (and other stuff) and little more sensibly then they would probably sell a lot more.
Eeyore:
--- Quote from: Peter McGurk on January 21, 2013, 12:47:59 pm ---Yes but it would be better for the club that the wall belongs to the club.
How much do you reckon most people spend on going to the match in total and how much do you reckon goes to the club. 50%? 70%? Whatever - it's an appreciable difference.
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I am all for encouraging working class young fans, Students and kids Peter the problem is that the game has moved away from that into a middle class sport with middle class pricing. Why would a business want to risk turning the Sport into a working class game again when that is not the demographic that makes the most money.
Corporate sponsors wouldn't of come within a million miles of Football in the 70's and 80's when it was a working class game so why would a business want to return to that ethos. Are what the Corporates would see as young working class scallies the demographic the Club is really targeting.
CraigDS:
--- Quote from: The Grinch on January 21, 2013, 12:58:12 pm ---I am all for encouraging working class young fans, Students and kids Peter the problem is that the game has moved away from that into a middle class sport with middle class pricing. Why would a business want to risk turning the Sport into a working class game again when that is not the demographic that makes the most money.
Corporate sponsors wouldn't of come within a million miles of Football in the 70's and 80's when it was a working class game so why would a business want to return to that ethos. Are what the Corporates would see as young working class scallies the demographic the Club is really targeting.
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Where are the next generation of middle class and corporate working supporters going to come from?
No hard in catering for all demographics. Nice fancy corporates in prime seats in Main and Centenary, seated 'normal' seats for the middle classes, and standing lower priced seats in the Kop for the working classes.
There were a multitude of reasons in the 70s and 80s why sponsors wouldn't come within a million miles of football, 90% of these wouldn't exist if the club attracted a more working class demographic at the club.
Peter McGurk:
--- Quote from: The Grinch on January 21, 2013, 12:58:12 pm ---I am all for encouraging working class young fans, Students and kids Peter the problem is that the game has moved away from that into a middle class sport with middle class pricing. Why would a business want to risk turning the Sport into a working class game again when that is not the demographic that makes the most money.
Corporate sponsors wouldn't of come within a million miles of Football in the 70's and 80's when it was a working class game so why would a business want to return to that ethos. Are what the Corporates would see as young working class scallies the demographic the Club is really targeting.
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The problem was (and might expected by some to be) - Hooliganism. As sponsors at the time, the Milk Marketing Board dropped the league like a stone after Heysel.
The introduction of all-seater stadium, tickets with names on, addresses, cameras, more stewards, has (largely) nailed Hooliganism as we knew it in the 80s. It was either all that or ID cards.
There's nothing in the rail safe standing system that opens the door to that coming back. Everyone still has a pre-bought ticket. Everyone is still known. Everyone is still closely watched.
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