Topic: Donald Drumpf - all and any ridiculing (or insightful) videos.

[Trada]

WTF with Marc Maron - President Obama

http://www.wtfpod.com/podcast/episodes/episode_613_-_president_barack_obama


I`m just going through his back catalogue, and listening to this from June 2015 it still resonates how decent, intelligent and normal a man he is compared to the present incumbent. It also goes into his achievements, his frustrations and the obstructionism from Congress. Old news, but interesting.

Enjoyed listening to that its like a different world.

Imagine Trump doing the same interview.

[Red Beret]

Check out the Honest Trailers Oscars for this year.  The Trump bit at the end was hillarious 

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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/H6OJfviiUJY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/H6OJfviiUJY</a>

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/fcCj191tKOg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/fcCj191tKOg</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/I5DMwYHIiCY" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/I5DMwYHIiCY</a>

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[stoa]

Am I the only one who doesn't like Joe? He just comes across as a massive twat even though he is rather critical of Trump...

[Red Beret]

I don't pay much attention to Joe but thought his comments here were pertinent enough to share. We need republicans willing to stand up and hold Trump to account.

[SP]

He just comes across as a massive twat

He is a Republican.

QED

[Elmo!]

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[Redcap]

I don't pay much attention to Joe but thought his comments here were pertinent enough to share. We need republicans willing to stand up and hold Trump to account.

Yep.

He's a Republican so ultimately he's to be treated with suspicion, but America needs the likes of him, McCain and other 'moderate' Republicans to form a bloc and call Trump out. That said, that was still a pretty flaccid interview as far as criticising the administration goes. He said Kellyanne Conway lied, but blamed Trump's advisers for not speaking truth to power, instead of acknowledging the fact that actually, 75% of what comes out of Trump's mouth is not truthful.

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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/6KITbbZXZ4U" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/6KITbbZXZ4U</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/x96JSyxNMk8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/x96JSyxNMk8</a>

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<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/A-HUbdEAxo8" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/A-HUbdEAxo8</a>

[Red Beret]

Yep.

He's a Republican so ultimately he's to be treated with suspicion, but America needs the likes of him, McCain and other 'moderate' Republicans to form a bloc and call Trump out. That said, that was still a pretty flaccid interview as far as criticising the administration goes. He said Kellyanne Conway lied, but blamed Trump's advisers for not speaking truth to power, instead of acknowledging the fact that actually, 75% of what comes out of Trump's mouth is not truthful.

I agree completely.  But at least barring Conway suggests him and his co host want to maintain at least some semblance of journalistic integrity.  And even if it is political self interest, he recognises the high stakes that the GOP are currently playing with aren't worth it.  And so far he refuses to call Trump "Mr President"

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/4aLIIhJ11jQ" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/4aLIIhJ11jQ</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/wh1v74YFpSs" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/wh1v74YFpSs</a>

[Red Beret]

The little montage at the end of this is pretty awesome. 

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[Red Beret]

Seems Maher is enduring a bit of a backlash in some quarters for apparently stoking Milo's ego by taking him onto his show. 

Bill Maher has endured plenty of backlash for his recent hosting of Milo Yiannopoulos, the trolling, tittering face of the “alt right,” on Real Time, for a conversation that finally took Yiannopoulos to task for his hateful, incendiary rhetoric against, uh, Lena Dunham. Maher treated Yiannopoulos like an amusing sideshow—an “impish Brit” comic, like the love child of Eddie Izzard and Nigel Frottage—and used the segment primarily as an opportunity to scold other liberals for getting upset, all while counting on that very same outrage for ratings. For many it was a pandering, chummy display in which Yiannopoulos was allowed to spew his usual sociopolitical shock-jock act unchecked (and occasionally endorsed). To them, Yiannopoulos’ swift fall from bubbling-under cultural force to future guest at The Gathering of the Juggalos over these past few days has only affirmed what a colossal mistake it was for Maher to invite him and ruffle his Justin Bieber hair in the first place.

Or, as Bill Maher puts it: “You’re welcome.”

In a new interview with The New York Times’ Dave Itzkoff, Maher says the chat with Yiannopoulos—in which he exposed nothing that was not already known about him, failed to challenge him on the things he said either in the past or in the moment, and officially coronated him as an exciting new addition to the TV political roundtable—is, quite obviously, directly responsible for Yiannopoulos’ sudden decline. The evidence is conclusive, he says, given that all these things happened over the course of the same weekend:

    About a week ago, I went on Van Jones’s show, and somebody asked me about the booking. I hadn’t really gotten into the details of Milo yet. He was just getting on my radar. I said, specifically, sunlight is the best disinfectant. Then we had Milo on, despite the fact that many people said, “Oh, how dare you give a platform to this man.” What I think people saw was an emotionally needy Ann Coulter wannabe, trying to make a buck off of the left’s propensity for outrage. And by the end of the weekend, by dinnertime Monday, he’s dropped as a speaker at CPAC. Then he’s dropped by Breitbart, and his book deal falls through. As I say, sunlight is the best disinfectant. You’re welcome.

Thanks! Now granted, there may be some who would say that Yiannopoulos being disinvited from speaking at CPAC, the loss of his book deal at Simon & Schuster, and his being forced into resigning from Breitbart could more accurately be traced to the self-proclaimed conservative group Reagan Battalion unearthing video of comments Yiannopoulos had made condoning pedophilia—a video that, among many, Maher didn’t challenge him on, nor actually present.

There may also be some who would take issue with Maher laughing about exposing this “emotionally needy Ann Coulter wannabe”—another Maher friend and frequent Real Time guest, whose propensity for stoking liberal outrage has similarly made him a few bucks—when Maher actually described Yiannopoulos as, in front of his TV audience, was “a young, gay Christopher Hitchens” (which sounds at least marginally more complimentary). There are probably also some who would argue that sunlight only works as a disinfectant when you’re not blowing it up someone’s ass.

Nevertheless, you can’t argue with the days of the week, and indeed, Monday does follow Friday. And had Maher not had Yiannopoulos on his show for eight whole minutes of take-no-prisoners goofing around, who knows if there would have been such a concerted effort to remove Yiannopoulos from the CPAC roster based solely on the years of hate speech that had already led to his being permanently banned from the Twitter gutter, a series of increasingly violent protests, and a growing exhaustion with his dull and desperate attempts to flame-war the world? Bill Maher knows: They definitely wouldn’t have, had he not been so unafraid to look Milo right in the face while he’s mouthing off about transgender people having a “psychiatric disorder” and say, “...Okay.”

Not that Maher thinks he should have even had to do that much. As he explains to Itzkoff, “It’s not my job to hold him accountable to everything he’s ever said or done. I had eight minutes with him, on the show itself. Sorry I don’t have time to go over everything everybody else would want to do.” After all, attempting to respond to all the many hateful things Yiannopoulos has said over the course of his career—or even just over the course of those eight minutes—wouldn’t have left enough time for “New Rules.”

Besides, Maher says, “I like people who push the limits. I like people who are not afraid to take the slings and arrows, because they’re going to explore what’s on the edge. Now, is this guy over the edge? Yes. I mean, he’s a little cuckoo. But I would rather err on that side than on the side where everybody else is.” And if booking cuckoos means that sometimes they attract so much controversy that they suffer a tangential downfall he can then take credit for—while simultaneously maintaining that the controversy is, come on, all just a stupid joke—Bill Maher likes that, too.

http://www.avclub.com/article/milo-yiannopoulos-enabler-bill-maher-says-youre-we-250820

Apparently it's got something to do with Maher calling trans people "weirdos". 

http://flavorwire.com/600169/reminder-bill-maher-is-garbage

Wellllll it’s been a bit of a weekend, hasn’t it. The quick recap, if you need it: last Friday night, the featured guest on HBO’s Real Time with Bill Maher was Milo Yiannopoulos, the loathsome shit-sandwich who’s made such a practice of hate speech, targeted harassment, transphobia, and racism, investigative journalist and frequent Real Time guest Jeremy Scahill declined to participate in the evening’s panel. But Maher defended the booking, insisting, “If Mr. Yiannopoulos is indeed the monster Scahill claims — and he might be — nothing could serve the liberal cause better than having him exposed on Friday night,” though his one-on-one with Yiannopoulos exposed little more than Maher’s chumminess with two-bit “provocateurs.”

It fell to panelist Larry Wilmore to call Milo on his bullshit, and that was basically the show’s takeaway – until the brightened spotlight brought out old interviews of Yiannopoulos seeming to endorse pederasty. Come to find out, conservatives have a line, and “there are certainly people who are capable of giving consent at a younger age” apparently crosses it! And then the dominoes fell: his invitation to give the keynote speech at the conservative circle-jerk CPAC was rescinded (a particularly delicious twist, considering its attendees’ non-stop tsk-tsking of the “free speech” implications of cancelling or protesting Yiannopoulos’s campus speaking engagements), and his already-controversial forthcoming book Dangerous was cancelled by Simon & Schuster.

There’s a lot to extrapolate from L’Affair Yiannopoulos, and it will be unpacked, here and elsewhere. But let’s not ignore the secondary takeaway here, which is to never forget that Bill Maher is fucking garbage.

It’s easy for the casual observer to think otherwise, based on his CV and profile; he has, after all, hosted shows on three networks over 24 year that have attracted an enviable array of writers, thinkers, entertainers, and politicos. And yet, over the course of that lengthy run, he’s shown an unflagging dedication to not only sparking conversations from guests of all political stripes (which is good!), but using those panels to signal-boost “commentators” whose bread and butter is outright hate and ignorance, like Ann Coulter, Dinesh D’Souza, the late Andrew Breitbart, and now Yiannopoulos.

If we’ve seen any evolution over the course of Maher’s television tenure, it’s the degree to which he has himself taken on the smug intolerance of such dubious figures. (There’s not a lot of road separating Maher and Coulter on the topic of Islam, for example.) And as he’s become more of a preening know-it-all, his conversations with the worst of the fringe right have become increasingly troubling searches for common ground. For all his talk of opportunities to “expose” Yiannopoulos on Friday’s real time, he approached the Brietbart commentator, in their one-on-one and in the panel discussion after, less like an interviewer and more like a full-service masseuse.

Sure, Maher told Yiannopoulos, “You’re very wrong about certain things” and warned him, “You should get off the Trump Train.” But the bulk of their conversation was a mutual-admiration society, united by their shared distaste for the greatest of all villains, THE P.C. LEFT, whose limitless power these days is flexed in, um, none of the three branches of our government, hmmm. With the slightest bit of research, Maher could have challenged his guest on the performative fraudulence of his current persona (as Upworthy’s Parker Molloy reminded us this weekend, this was a writer who once warned readers that “vile abuse must be stamped out online,” and insisted that “existing hate speech laws are inadequate for the social media era,” before realizing there was more coin in appealing to the base instincts of the worst among us). Instead, he spent time drawing a laughably false equivalence from political commentator Yiannopoulos and professional insult comic Joan Rivers. Cool comparison, Bill! Step into my office, because you’re fucking fired.

Even worse, in the show’s Internet-only “Overtime” segment, Maher not only failed to challenge Yiannopoulos’s skin-crawling transphobia — he basically backed him up on it. When his guest claimed his habit of misgendering and doxxing trans people was borne out of a belief that “women and girls should be protected from having men who are confused about their sexual identities in their bathroom,” Maher shrugged, “That’s not unreasonable.” A+ GOOD JOB, MR. INTERVIEWER. (There is also, in that moment, a telling slip-up, as Yiannopoulos begins to say “Women and children” and corrects himself. We subsequently learned that Mr. Yiannopoulos isn’t all that worried about what young boys are exposed to.) Taking the cue from his sack of rancid dogshit guest, Maher then puts the question to his panel: “Where do you stand on weirdos peeing?” HAHAHAHA OH ALL THE LOLZ.

But being an asshole is one thing — deliberately allowing the spread of misinformation is another. When Yiannopoulos makes the assertion that trans people are “disproportionately involved in those kinds of crimes,” Maher is left sputtering and looking at his cards, unarmed with the facts of the matter: that they are disproportionately involved in sex crimes, as the victims of them. Yiannopoulos used the phrase “involved in” twice in a row, a deliberate wording choice made to obscure victimhood behind scare language and bullshit. Did Maher call him on it? Of course he fucking didn’t, are you kidding me? Only Larry Wilmore objected to this “controversial statistic,” and proceeded, over the course of the quickly-viral segment, do to what Maher should have been doing the entire time: telling Milo Yiannopoulos to go fuck himself.

Any reasonable person watching that interaction couldn’t be blamed for wondering why Bill Maher has had a show on the air for nearly a quarter-century, while Larry Wilmore’s was cancelled after a year and a half; Maher looks ignorant, helpless, and toothless. (It’s also the second week in a row when one of Maher’s panelists has had to do the work of shutting down a schmuck guest for him.) But the entire exchange underscores why Yiannopoulos wasn’t worthy of the spotlight provided by Real Time to begin with. This wasn’t some semi-sensible conservative like Nicolle Wallace or Ana Navarro contributing an altering viewpoint to a political discussion; this was a dangerous liar, using the amplification of a national television broadcast to share a falsehood that could get vulnerable citizens hurt or killed. And Bill Maher chuckled, and called them “weirdos.”

Because he wasn’t there to hold Milo accountable; he was there to rally with him around a common cause. “STOP TAKING THE BAIT, LIBERALS,” he insisted, in their hard-hitting interview. “The fact that they all freaked out about this simple impish British fag — you fucking schoolgirls.” Fag! Schoolgirls! So boomer-straight-white-male edgy! But that’s how this simpleton sees the world, and he eagerly posted the “stop taking the bait” line to Twitter after the show aired. And that was all he had to say for nearly 48 hours, as his new boy toy’s world crumbled around him. At no point did Maher use his platform, and the 6.49 million followers it provides him, to comment on the new revelations about Yiannopoulos, or to clarify the falsehoods he let slide on-air. Instead, last night, he tweeted this:

 Bill Maher
✔
@billmaher

Just hope all my friends in Sweden are OK - just heard from the president, that's where the Bowling Green Massacre happened!

In a way, this three-day-old joke that would’ve gotten any respectable comedy writer fired from Jay Leno’s staff was the perfect response, because it exposes Maher for who he is. He’s not an intellectual, nor a provocateur, nor a participant in the issues that are so pressing in our culture at this moment. He’s a comedian – and a shitty, hack comedian at that, with nothing valuable to say. And yet, somehow, he has a weekly television podium from which to shout it.

[theMilkman]

Seems Maher is enduring a bit of a backlash in some quarters for apparently stoking Milo's ego by taking him onto his show. 

Apparently it's got something to do with Maher calling trans people "weirdos".

I think there are two big takeaways from that:
1. Maher didn't need to take Milo on for every thing he said (and i think it's good that he didn't), but he didn't need to be quite as chummy to him even if the plan was to deny him of the offense he craves (which happened)
2. Taken away from his immature base, Milo looks like a fucking clown. Sunlight is a very good disinfectant.

[Red Beret]

I think there are two big takeaways from that:
1. Maher didn't need to take Milo on for every thing he said (and i think it's good that he didn't), but he didn't need to be quite as chummy to him even if the plan was to deny him of the offense he craves (which happened)
2. Taken away from his immature base, Milo looks like a fucking clown. Sunlight is a very good disinfectant.

I agree.  You can argue whether Maher meant it or not, or was just weak on Milo, but the fact is he stepped back and let the panel do the work for him.  Milo used the rope to hang himself and got absolutely fucking roasted. Maher didn't have to do a fecking thing.

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/A_hJObPo49Q" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/A_hJObPo49Q</a>

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/jLsFOnkxmOw" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/jLsFOnkxmOw</a>

An insecure man child who can't survive without constantly being told what a good little boy he is.

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/XptEI5zsEnI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/XptEI5zsEnI</a>

[theMilkman]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/stynTirw8JI&amp;t=474s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/stynTirw8JI&amp;t=474s</a>

People were upset with Maher last week for hosting Milo. I'm furious with him this week for hosting that Trump supporting supposed Feminist Asra Nomani - she made absolutely no real contribution, and just kept emptily repeating 'humanity' and 'civility' again and again.

Or maybe I'm just furious with the world for the fact that people like that even exist...

[Giono]

These shows are entertainment.


They did nothing in the last election or in several elections since they have been around. They did give liberals some misguided comfort and poked fun at an angry conservative mob that just got their guy into the Whitehouse and elected a Congress and Senate majority.


They are entertainment. Not to be held to some liberal standard.

[Lush is the best medicine...]

Bill Maher is a cock. Always has been.

[Gnurglan]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/XptEI5zsEnI" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/XptEI5zsEnI</a>

Everybody, nobody...
Military operational as an adjective?

 

[Red Beret]

Not all Trump related, but amusing enough to share  (Apologies to those who dislike Maher)

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/EBE2CKhaS0o" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/EBE2CKhaS0o</a>

[Brissyred]

These shows are entertainment.

Really? Thanks for that, I wouldn't have known without you telling me, I see them in a totally different context now.

[Red Beret]

Latest from John Oliver

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyyk0rxIKWU

[Redcap]

They are entertainment. Not to be held to some liberal standard.

Not sure what that even means, to be honest. Care to expand?

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[theMilkman]

No one does it like Jon Stewart

[Red Beret]

No one does it like Jon Stewart

He's practically getting himself a regular 10 minute slot on Steven's show now.  Must be living under his desk XD

[Red Beret]

It's just the way everybody in the audience just bursts out laughing at just about anything Donald Trump says.  The man is his own joke.  You barely have to say anything to tease out the comedic value from this imbecile.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/N98_WKKQg0Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/N98_WKKQg0Y</a>

"We've come up with something really really... I think real good.  Nobody knew how complicated it would be."

"Some people knew..."

[Red Beret]

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/fNaO9sLlWSk" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/fNaO9sLlWSk</a>

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/-OYzOmjaoOg" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/-OYzOmjaoOg</a>

[Gnurglan]

It's just the way everybody in the audience just bursts out laughing at just about anything Donald Drumpf says.  The man is his own joke.  You barely have to say anything to tease out the comedic value from this imbecile.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/N98_WKKQg0Y" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/N98_WKKQg0Y</a>

"We've come up with something really really... I think real good.  Nobody knew how complicated it would be."

"Some people knew..."

[Red Beret]

This is a very old video I've been linked to.  Haven't watched it myself but thought others might want to.  "Christian" Broadcast Network (my quote marks) compares Sweden to North Korea.  Interesting comments on youtube.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/nZSJj0afPuk&amp;feature=youtu.be" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/nZSJj0afPuk&amp;feature=youtu.be</a>

Colbert's take on Trump's address last night.

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/hezHSFSwa08&amp;t=238s" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/hezHSFSwa08&amp;t=238s</a>

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[Giono]

Not sure what that even means, to be honest. Care to expand?

Slamming Maher for his guests when he is after ratings first and foremost is misguided. He is not a benevolent society. He is after viewers.

[Giono]

Really? Thanks for that, I wouldn't have known without you telling me, I see them in a totally different context now.

Glad you agree.