Topic: The Daniel Sturridge

[goalrushatgoodison]

Players earn enough. No reason at all why they should be involved in any football related betting.

I didn't say there was. I said its a ridiculous rule. I was specifically talking about situations such as a player changing club or a manager taking a new job. I've no problem with the idea that a player shouldn't bet themselves or have somebody place bets for them. That makes sense because it could effect their performance which would obviously have the potential to effect the result of a match.

Bookmakers earn enough too. No reason at all why they should be involved in betting where the outcome of the medium may be already known. And no reason at all why the FA should be putting sanctions in place to avoid bookmakers from getting their arses handed to them when they are involved in such ridiculous practices.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

His Dad is constantly in the bookies around where I grew up.

Anyway, it’s a very minor charge in the grand scheme of things. He’s obviously, allegedly, just tipped somebody off about a singular event. To compare it to Joey Barton who placed thousands of bets himself is a little ridiculous.

Hopefully the bookies lost a shit ton of money, which is the least they deserve.

Players earn enough. No reason at all why they should be involved in any football related betting.

I was employed by a football club a few years ago on a very low salary. I was involved on the football side of things but would never have had any inside knowledge. The current betting rules prevented me from betting on any football. Is that fair to you?

The authorities claim that the current rules are in place to stop match fixing and such, but in reality they are in place to protect the bookies from losing money.

[JackWard33]

Players earn enough. No reason at all why they should be involved in any football related betting.

You do know people bet for entertaininment?

[KissThisGuy]

You do know people bet for entertaininment?

Saw this thread high up. Is it wrong that I'm pleasantly surprised it isn't injury related news?

[Daniel Cabbaggio]

As a complete side note, as someone who has a few bets every now and then, you cannot escape a gambling company these days in regards to footy from a few years ago, it's everywhere you look, on the pitch in-game billboards, In play odds every halftime, Every club has an official bookmaker as well, if they aren't already blazoned on the front of the kit itself

[kavah]

As a complete side note, as someone who has a few bets every now and then, you cannot escape a gambling company these days in regards to footy from a few years ago, it's everywhere you look, on the pitch in-game billboards, In play odds every halftime, Every club has an official bookmaker as well, if they aren't already blazoned on the front of the kit itself

Aye

[MinnyRed]

Can he play while this is pending?

[whiteboots]

I have zero sympathy for the gambling companies.

Their business model is predicated on the principle that they win - the customer loses, otherwise they would not exist.

If they have been even temporarily outwitted by Daniel Sturridge they deserve their losses.

[JP!]

What a tit.

[El Lobo]

The rule is actually gobsmacking

‘A player shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit, cause or enable any person to bet on.....any other matter concerning or related to football anywhere in the world’

So essentially any player who has ever told anyone that he’s signing for a club before it’s been announced has broken that rule, right?

[deFacto please, you bastards]

What a tit.

He's said that he has't made any bets, so let's see

[classycarra]

Aye

Always a bit upsetting seeing that on Klopp's shirt, after what he said about bookies soon after he joined the club. Got to get our money somehow I guess

Could be worse I guess. Could be a Qatari bookies

[Red Beret]

Should have been betting on Liverpool to win. 

[WhereAngelsPlay]

So he told a person who then told a person and they all had a bet,big deal,I doubt he told them to lump on it.

[Mister Flip Flop]

Amazing these things keep coming up when the team are doing well. 

[B0151?]

The rule is actually gobsmacking

‘A player shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit, cause or enable any person to bet on.....any other matter concerning or related to football anywhere in the world’

So essentially any player who has ever told anyone that he’s signing for a club before it’s been announced has broken that rule, right?

Surely they can't punish Sturridge much for this if this is the case. I seriously doubt he's telling his mate to put the bet on. Sounds like they're the ones in the wrong, if anyone is

Otherwise they literally are protecting betting companies over their footballers

[sinnermichael]

How ironic that for years Liverpool have been gambling on Daniel Sturridge's fitness.

[liversaint]

I have zero sympathy for the gambling companies.

Their business model is predicated on the principle that they win - the customer loses, otherwise they would not exist.

If they have been even temporarily outwitted by Daniel Sturridge they deserve their losses.

Exactly. if you look like you have a clue on the horses with any online account other than Betfair, you will be shut down quicker than its took me to type this or restricted to pennies.

[Jake]

Usually a four or five figure fine and a slap on the wrists if it's not been a major thing. So he'll be banned for life.

If they don't ban him then the slap on the wrist will probably injure him for the rest of the season.

[LovelyCushionedHeader]

The rule is actually gobsmacking

‘A player shall not bet, either directly or indirectly, or instruct, permit, cause or enable any person to bet on.....any other matter concerning or related to football anywhere in the world’

So essentially any player who has ever told anyone that he’s signing for a club before it’s been announced has broken that rule, right?

Yep. If he’s told a friend or family member that he is moving to West Brom, and said person then puts the bet on then he will have broken that rule.

Likewise if a coach earning £12k a year at a League 2 club tells someone that a certain player is playing in the next game, resulting in them betting on him to score a goal.

Which is why a response like the one below is laughable.

What a tit.

[So… Howard Philips]

Isn't this a good reason not to gamble then?

[newterp]

How ironic that for years Liverpool have been gambling on Daniel Sturridge's fitness.

yes!!

[thekitkatshuffler]

Can't help but feel like Reds Bet set him down this dark road.   

[didi shamone]

What a tit.

Stop looking at porn and try to contribute something useful to the debate.

[Ravishing Rick Dude]

Usually a four or five figure fine and a slap on the wrists if it's not been a major thing. So he'll be banned for life.

Let's hope they don't slap him on the ankle.

[keano7]

I imagine if he has done something it’ll be as someone posted above simply telling a family member that he’s moving on loan to West Brom and that family member has told a friend of a friend who’s lumped a big sum on it. He doesn’t strike me at all as a) a gambling man b) anyone to have a bet on a game he would be involved in.

Anyway it’s complete speculation until any evidence is provided to the contrary. Sturridge and the club have come out and said as much.

[RedForeverTT]

As one who is against gambling, I never like the idea of betting companies involved in football at all. I despised it when I see a betting company on our jersey.

I hope this isn't true but if it is, then I will have no sympathy for Sturridge whatsoever.

[Rush 82]

Oh dear. 

Hope it all works out okay

[harleydanger]

Always a bit upsetting seeing that on Klopp's shirt, after what he said about bookies soon after he joined the club. Got to get our money somehow I guess

Could be worse I guess. Could be a Qatari bookies

The money explosion in football is entirely driven by gambling, It's the reason TV rights are now ridiculous

[Wingman]

Ah well, what can you do? Seems to me Sturridge innocuously told a mate or someone like it he'd be heading to WBA and they saw an opportunity to make a few bob out of it. I don't think there was any malicious intent on Sturridge's behalf, but rules are rules and he'll probably be punished in some form because of it. If anything, hopefully he learns to be tight lipped a bit more in the future, even to those you think you can trust.....

Why should he? People change jobs all the time, telling friends and family before their employers i.e. it becomes common knowledge. If indeed, Daniel has told someone that he was heading to WBA before it was announced and they’ve had a bet on it, where do you think the problem lies? For me it’s with the betting companies for having markets on just about anything - even on situations where people will know the outcome before a bet is deemed to have won or lost.

I don’t place bets, it’s a mug’s game, but my sympathies are with the mugs who are hooked and broke rather than the blood sucking parasitic betting companies

[Rush 82]

Why should he? People change jobs all the time, telling friends and family before their employers i.e. it becomes common knowledge. If indeed, Daniel has told someone that he was heading to WBA before it was announced and they’ve had a bet on it, where do you think the problem lies? For me it’s with the betting companies for having markets on just about anything - even on situations where people will know the outcome before a bet is deemed to have won or lost.

I don’t place bets, it’s a mug’s game, but my sympathies are with the mugs who are hooked and broke rather than the blood sucking parasitic betting companies

Yep.

Also, I wonder if the FA have thought to investigate why some officials make what appear to be mentally deranged decisions every week in the EPL...

[capt k]

Yep.

Also, I wonder if the FA have thought to investigate why some officials make what appear to be mentally deranged decisions every week in the EPL...

dont be so silly, the refs fucking up on a weekly basis, is pure;y human error,. footballers moving clubs ad telling their family is corruption..just ask the FA

[Number 7]

Without knowing all the facts if it is what’s widely believed then it’s preposterous. So he told someone he’s moving to West Brom and before you know some friends uncles brother-in-law has placed a bet on it? Sounds like someone is trying to either sabotage him or bring negative attention to our great start in the league.

[OneTouchFooty]

I can’t muster any enthusiasm for this story. If he’s given info to mate and the mate has acted on it then it’s absurd being punished for it, take the slap on the wrist and move on. He’s hardly masterminding some betting syndicate. 

[rocco]

 Could have told someone he expected Westbrom  to be relegated and why he thought so

[Dr. Beaker]

Can he play while this is pending?

I wouldn't bet on it.

[Trada]

He's said that he has't made any bets, so let's see

Its not about bets, Sky News said it about giving information about Players, managers, formations and tactics.

For me that is even worse than making bets.

[jillcwhomever]

The money explosion in football is entirely driven by gambling, It's the reason TV rights are now ridiculous

Absolutely, it winds me up endlessly that little break before kick-off on Sky or BT when they go for the betting advert, football does not need so much money from these blood suckers. Another thing I will say amazing how proactive the media suddenly are on this story, yet at the same time are willing to wipe the City stuff under the carpet. Hypocrites the lot of them.

[Rush 82]

Its not about bets, Sky News said it about giving information about Players, managers, formations and tactics.

For me that is even worse than making bets.

You can bet on those things now?

Well I never.   

[Rush 82]

Also, lovely of the FA to chum the water without a shred of detail