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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #480 on: December 1, 2013, 04:25:54 pm »
his 1st touch is abysmal, but he has time on his side and he needs to be loaned out asap to a championship side, not good or strong enough for this league
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #481 on: December 1, 2013, 04:26:45 pm »
Over rated. 

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #482 on: December 1, 2013, 04:26:56 pm »
with skill without any football sense. ...yes.. not even SWP..
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #483 on: December 1, 2013, 04:27:24 pm »
People are forgetting that he was actually good for us beginning of last season. For whatever reason, he seems to have regressed quite a bit.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #484 on: December 1, 2013, 04:27:58 pm »
Was poor in the 1st half but seemed a lot better in the 2nd. Tried quite a few things and constantly created space for others.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #485 on: December 1, 2013, 04:28:14 pm »
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #486 on: December 1, 2013, 04:28:34 pm »
The level of hype was unfair to him to begin with - and the same could be said for a lot of our youngsters, both present and past.

Still a lot of potential in there, though.

Think he would really benefit from a loan deal to get some regular football.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #487 on: December 1, 2013, 04:28:46 pm »
He needs to play regularly. Some frankly shameful comments in here though.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #488 on: December 1, 2013, 04:31:19 pm »
People are forgetting that he was actually good for us beginning of last season. For whatever reason, he seems to have regressed quite a bit.
Yep. I remember what I saw and there was definitely something there. His regression is not uncommon when it comes to ridiculously young players at a big club. He is not gaining any new skills with these disappointing minutes of gameplay with us, nor is he being able to provide us with any significant help. A loan seems the best option for both parties. I hope it happens soon, because I can easily see his being dismissed and not being able to come back.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #489 on: December 1, 2013, 04:31:46 pm »
Were spurs not happy to pay like £7-9m for him? I'd be giving Levy a call tonight to give him an option buy.

He's so over rated its ridiculous. Every time he plays he looks completely out of his depth and has done for about 9 months now.

He either needs to be sold or loaned out to get experience but he shouldn't be within 5 miles of our first team squad, never mind starting!

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #490 on: December 1, 2013, 04:33:14 pm »
Offers nothing.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #491 on: December 1, 2013, 04:33:34 pm »
He was perhaps overrated by some, but he isn't as bad as some are making him out, get a grip. But he's not good enough to be starting either. 15-20 minutes as an impact sub is at most what we can expect from him.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #492 on: December 1, 2013, 04:35:27 pm »
He needs to play regularly. Some frankly shameful comments in here though.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #493 on: December 1, 2013, 04:36:38 pm »
That was his first time on the pitch since the middle of October, when he got 8 minutes. He hasn't really got any games since September, and they were off the bench. He comes in, he's rusty, absolute fucking tools bang on about how shite or overrated he is, he goes out of the team. He doesn't go out on loan, he doesn't get a run, he doesn't develop. He's just back out until he's back in, and when he is everyone can point out how he hasn't developed as quickly as he does on the computer.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #494 on: December 1, 2013, 04:37:38 pm »
Too much like Aaron Lennon, all pace, no end product.

Let's hope he gets much better asap.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #495 on: December 1, 2013, 04:38:40 pm »
He's shit and has been everytime he's played this season.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #496 on: December 1, 2013, 04:39:22 pm »
He needs to play regularly. Some frankly shameful comments in here though.

I would like him to get minutes here and there for us, he should have done already this season against the likes of West Brom and Fulham when we were coasting. I don't think it helps to start him in a match such as this after he's not been playing much. Saying that, some bellends need to get off his back and recognise he's still a young kid.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #497 on: December 1, 2013, 04:39:27 pm »
That was his first time on the pitch since the middle of October, when he got 8 minutes. He hasn't really got any games since September, and they were off the bench. He comes in, he's rusty, absolute fucking tools bang on about how shite or overrated he is, he goes out of the team. He doesn't go out on loan, he doesn't get a run, he doesn't develop. He's just back out until he's back in, and when he is everyone can point out how he hasn't developed as quickly as he does on the computer.
Why didn't we just loan him out and keep Downing for a year till Sterling gets more experienced?
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #498 on: December 1, 2013, 04:42:40 pm »
He's shit and has been everytime he's played this season.

How many times has he started? Disgraceful, the abuse he's getting while the likes of Lucas, Johnson, Skrtel get away with horrendous performances.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #499 on: December 1, 2013, 04:42:46 pm »
He is a talent but needs games, his sharpness was non existent. Needs more confidence as well. Loan.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #500 on: December 1, 2013, 04:43:42 pm »
Is a general victim of the coming winter break - every top team will be resting players and today was out day it seems. And Sterling has not played - not in reserves, not in first team. Todays fuck up was almost a result of the coming winter break where players risk burnout going into the latter stages - that, cannot happen. So Sterling is thrown in.

He's not overrated - there are plenty of people who have big hopes for him, but he needs time to bring those hopes to fruition. He can't just be dismissed as a shit wright-phillips everytime he comes on as rusty as a farmers pitchfork. I agree that equally much of it is down to him, but he is still very young - the youngest player in our first team. Think about that.

And if anyone compares Suso to Sterling again... christ. Suso is playing for a team in the fucking relegation zone, Sterling is trying to get a place in a team that stands in third place in the strongest league in the world.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #501 on: December 1, 2013, 04:44:15 pm »
Poor touch
Weak
Lacks positional sense, quite often looked lost.
Offers no goal threat
Can't cross
Can't shoot

his age is the only reason he's at Liverpool and the only reason he isn't being hounded. Showing no signs of progression, he's actually gone backwards. I question his attitude. Smacks of a player getting a contract and thinking "I've made it". I'll give him a year and if he's no better sell him to a championship side.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #502 on: December 1, 2013, 04:44:30 pm »
He needs to play regularly. Some frankly shameful comments in here though.

I can understand people wanting to defend him, but remember he has already had 2 years since all the fuss about him to improve a bit, whether he has played much or not and can you honestly say you have seen any improvement at all??

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #503 on: December 1, 2013, 04:45:37 pm »
I can understand people wanting to defend him, but remember he has already had 2 years since all the fuss about him to improve a bit, whether he has played much or not and can you honestly say you have seen any improvement at all??

How can you improve without games?

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #504 on: December 1, 2013, 04:45:56 pm »
Why didn't we just loan him out and keep Downing for a year till Sterling gets more experienced?
Because Downing was the personification of evil, whose losing mentality apparently affected everyone within 5 miles of Anfield Road, severely hampering our chances of winning even if he didn't play.

It would be the most reasonable alternative, really. Selling Downing obviously left us very, very short on that position. We might not be feeling it so far because we actually changed the formation and we haven't been really playing with wingers, but it took an injury to an injury-prone player to bring forth the reality that is our lack of depth.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #505 on: December 1, 2013, 04:46:26 pm »
How can you improve without games?

In training according to our manager himself.
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« Reply #506 on: December 1, 2013, 04:46:38 pm »
Why didn't we just loan him out and keep Downing for a year till Sterling gets more experienced?

I have no idea about the first bit. He was involved, albeit only as a sub at the start of the season, but not much at all since September. We expect him to develop by playing off the bench every few weeks, and by starting for England's U21s against fucking San Marino?

The talent thing is bollocks really. He's played with Suso and outperfomed him (no he hasn't wah wah wah - he has), he plays with the England U21s - most of whom are playing regular Premiership football - and he'll be one of the better players. He's a player they all go to to build attacks (and now Morrison too), so he's not a bad player. You can say he is, but stick him with his peers and he stands out as one of the better players. So what is he gaining from playing once every six weeks, or getting 10 minute cameos?

Maybe they think he's too emotionally immature to send on loan. Maybe they think - with good reason - that our squad has very little quality in depth and that we could use him. Fuck knows. He could be off playing at a decent level week in, week out and developing though. Hasn't been much sign of him doing that hanging around the Liverpool training pitch this season.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #507 on: December 1, 2013, 04:46:58 pm »
He needs to play regularly. Some frankly shameful comments in here though.

Both points are massively applicable.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #508 on: December 1, 2013, 04:47:39 pm »
People saying he's got a rubbish first touch. I remember people praising his first touch last season. So, you know.

For me he needs a loan to refine his game and find his feet again - away from the spotlight at Liverpool.
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« Reply #509 on: December 1, 2013, 04:48:32 pm »
In training according to our manager himself.

Only to a certain point though. To take your game to the next level, you need to be challenged, and challenged regularly.

Badly needs a loan.

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« Reply #510 on: December 1, 2013, 04:48:53 pm »
How can you improve without games?

You can't improve massively, but my point is he doesn't seem to have improved a jot, which is not exactly what you would expect from all the training he gets.

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« Reply #511 on: December 1, 2013, 04:49:31 pm »
People saying he's got a rubbish first touch. I remember people praising his first touch last season. So, you know.

For me he needs a loan to refine his game and find his feet again - away from the spotlight at Liverpool.

Seems like a players first touch would be one of the first things to fuck off through a lack of actually playing games.

Almost as if there's a connection.

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« Reply #512 on: December 1, 2013, 04:50:16 pm »
Seems like a players first touch would be one of the first things to fuck off through a lack of actually playing games.

Almost as if there's a connection.

Almost, yeah. But why think about these things when we can just trash him completely.
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« Reply #513 on: December 1, 2013, 04:50:23 pm »
I have no idea about the first bit. He was involved, albeit only as a sub at the start of the season, but not much at all since September. We expect him to develop by playing off the bench every few weeks, and by starting for England's U21s against fucking San Marino?

The talent thing is bollocks really. He's played with Suso and outperfomed him (no he hasn't wah wah wah - he has), he plays with the England U21s - most of whom are playing regular Premiership football - and he'll be one of the better players. He's a player they all go to to build attacks (and now Morrison too), so he's not a bad player. You can say he is, but stick him with his peers and he stands out as one of the better players. So what is he gaining from playing once every six weeks, or getting 10 minute cameos?

Maybe they think he's too emotionally immature to send on loan. Maybe they think - with good reason - that our squad has very little quality in depth and that we could use him. Fuck knows. He could be off playing at a decent level week in, week out and developing though. Hasn't been much sign of him doing that hanging around the Liverpool training pitch this season.

He definitely is seen as a good squad member and with the only competition after the main 3 for him Moses and Aspas it's no surprise he has stayed. This I guess is the flip side of no Europe, lack of games for fringe players.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #514 on: December 1, 2013, 04:50:55 pm »
Needs a loan
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #515 on: December 1, 2013, 04:53:31 pm »
You can't improve massively, but my point is he doesn't seem to have improved a jot, which is not exactly what you would expect from all the training he gets.

Sterling was looking in sharp in preseason and I thought he would definitely push on.

I think the injuries set him back a bit, and all that legal nonsense he got into wouldn't have helped his focus either.

Easy to forget how young he actually is.

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #516 on: December 1, 2013, 04:53:41 pm »
Has he been arsed since he got his fat contract?

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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #517 on: December 1, 2013, 04:53:45 pm »
Needs games. He is not good enough to play for us at the moment so he has to go on loan.
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Re: Raheem Sterling
« Reply #518 on: December 1, 2013, 04:54:11 pm »
Only to a certain point though. To take your game to the next level, you need to be challenged, and challenged regularly.

Badly needs a loan.

Yeah but he is struggling with basics. And he has been since the first few games of his career. Without romanticising his appearances last season, after about the first five or six games, he really started to drop off. Picked up briefly and then fell flat again and since then it's been a downward spiral.

All the things being said about him now could have equally been said about Macheda and look where he has ended up now. Just the comfort level he exhibits on the ball as opposed to Barkley last week is shocking. This is supposed to be a skillful player and his touch is terrible, dribbling is awful and I can't remember when he last beat his marker regularly in a game.

It appears he got figured out as a pace merchant without any top end speed and a decent turn on him and as soon as defenders started standing off him a little bit, he has been terrible. It's his apparent lack of technique and comfort on the ball that worries me. Other things can be developed later. Technical ability should already be there at his age.
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« Reply #519 on: December 1, 2013, 04:56:27 pm »
Yeah but he is struggling with basics. And he has been since the first few games of his career. Without romanticising his appearances last season, after about the first five or six games, he really started to drop off. Picked up briefly and then fell flat again and since then it's been a downward spiral.

All the things being said about him now could have equally been said about Macheda and look where he has ended up now. Just the comfort level he exhibits on the ball as opposed to Barkley last week is shocking. This is supposed to be a skillful player and his touch is terrible, dribbling is awful and I can't remember when he last beat his marker regularly in a game.

It appears he got figured out as a pace merchant without any top end speed and a decent turn on him and as soon as defenders started standing off him a little bit, he has been terrible. It's his apparent lack of technique and comfort on the ball that worries me. Other things can be developed later. Technical ability should already be there at his age.

You're judging his technical ability on today though, where he's made his first start since..?

Not too long ago people were lauding him for his decision making and technical ability on the ball.