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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36000 on: August 17, 2022, 10:58:31 pm »
So if he extends, you're sticking to your guns and saying he's here by default?
If - and its a massive flashing neon IF at this point - he’s offered and signs an extension, it’ll be primarily to secure his value when eventually a suitor comes, and we’ve found an upgrade.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36001 on: August 17, 2022, 11:05:55 pm »
If - and its a massive flashing neon IF at this point - he’s offered and signs an extension, it’ll be primarily to secure his value when eventually a suitor comes, and we’ve found an upgrade.

Okey dokey, that should cover the bases.

But those of us who thought Keita's performances when playing last season were good were retconning? Wondering now if theres a word for a proactive version of retconning, before the event

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36002 on: August 17, 2022, 11:10:21 pm »
He did,I expected him to be the first player picked up after they went down,seemed strange when it didn't happen.

Watched him a few times at KRC Genk, a composed player. Maybe thinking as a 6?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36003 on: August 17, 2022, 11:10:25 pm »
Okey dokey, that should cover the bases.

But those of us who thought Keita's performances when playing last season were good were retconning? Wondering now if theres a word for a proactive version of retconning, before the event
Don’t be a prick. I didn’t see much chat if any about Keita last season. Mostly because the focus was on the likes of Thiago, Fabinho and Henderson et al. You know, midfielders who are almost always influential on the pitch and are sorely missed when they are not.

If you want to continue to espouse Naby’s merits, do so in his dedicated thread. I won’t be there.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36004 on: August 17, 2022, 11:12:11 pm »
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36005 on: August 17, 2022, 11:13:42 pm »
Don’t be a prick. I didn’t see much chat if any about Keita last season. Mostly because the focus was on the likes of Thiago, Fabinho and Henderson et al. You know, midfielders who are almost always influential on the pitch and are sorely missed when they are not.

Who was talking about or focusing on Henderson with positivity last season? Love the lad and maybe i've just got a short memory but he was far from his best last season and I cant recall anyone sorely missing him in games he wasn't on the pitch

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36006 on: August 17, 2022, 11:16:53 pm »
I didn’t see much chat if any about Keita last season.
Probably best not to ascribe people's views, that you didn't see then or now, as being down to retconning then? And suggesting that any performance related stats don't stand up to your eye test

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36007 on: August 18, 2022, 12:04:19 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail


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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36008 on: August 18, 2022, 12:10:05 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail



Just saw that. Don't care if it's true or not, it still got me aroused.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36009 on: August 18, 2022, 12:10:55 am »
If - and its a massive flashing neon IF at this point - he’s offered and signs an extension, it’ll be primarily to secure his value when eventually a suitor comes, and we’ve found an upgrade.

Would love to know what this is based on ...claiming we'd hand out a multi million pound contract to a player we don't really want here would be a pretty big departure from how we've been operating so some evidence would be nice .. because without it I'd suggest there's quite a lot of evidence manager and executive tend to only sign players they're certain they want (almost to a fault!)
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36010 on: August 18, 2022, 12:14:54 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36011 on: August 18, 2022, 12:18:08 am »
Wondering now if theres a word for a proactive version of retconning
actually I was wondering wtf retconning means.  :)

edit:  ah, ok, I was gonna guess this:
Retroactive continuity, or retcon for short, is a literary device in which established diegetic facts in the plot of a fictional work are adjusted, ignored, supplemented, or contradicted by a subsequently published work which recontextualizes or breaks continuity with the former.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36012 on: August 18, 2022, 12:28:20 am »
So anyway targets for this window as opposed to promises for next ... feels like Laimer would fit the bill

https://fbref.com/en/players/c1b7847c/Konrad-Laimer

Had a bad injury last year but was a break so not a long term concern and he came back the same player
Pressing monster whose really versatile and good on the ball, peak age - not on silly wages
Last year of his contract I think and we have good relations with RB .. apparently Bayern wanted him but wouldn't pay the 30 million (or something) RB wanted - exactly the sort of opportunity we like
Feels ideal, and he's versatile enough that it wouldn't affect whoever you wanted to go and get next year

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36013 on: August 18, 2022, 12:38:48 am »
So anyway targets for this window as opposed to promises for next ... feels like Laimer would fit the bill

https://fbref.com/en/players/c1b7847c/Konrad-Laimer

Had a bad injury last year but was a break so not a long term concern and he came back the same player
Pressing monster whose really versatile and good on the ball, peak age - not on silly wages
Last year of his contract I think and we have good relations with RB .. apparently Bayern wanted him but wouldn't pay the 30 million (or something) RB wanted - exactly the sort of opportunity we like
Feels ideal, and he's versatile enough that it wouldn't affect whoever you wanted to go and get next year

he was discussed earlier - but unfortunately not even a tenuous link to him

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36014 on: August 18, 2022, 12:54:08 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail

Isn't that a former cricket player for England? What does he know about Bellingham?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36015 on: August 18, 2022, 01:02:45 am »
Isn't that a former cricket player for England? What does he know about Bellingham?

He played county cricket with Bellingham's Dad when they were both at Warwick Bears. Wellin Bellingham was a fine spin bowler back in the day. Would bowl a lovely googly.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36016 on: August 18, 2022, 01:04:42 am »
So anyway targets for this window as opposed to promises for next ... feels like Laimer would fit the bill

https://fbref.com/en/players/c1b7847c/Konrad-Laimer

Had a bad injury last year but was a break so not a long term concern and he came back the same player
Pressing monster whose really versatile and good on the ball, peak age - not on silly wages
Last year of his contract I think and we have good relations with RB .. apparently Bayern wanted him but wouldn't pay the 30 million (or something) RB wanted - exactly the sort of opportunity we like
Feels ideal, and he's versatile enough that it wouldn't affect whoever you wanted to go and get next year

Just not sure you can count on anything but defensive numbers translating out of the BuLi at this point.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36017 on: August 18, 2022, 01:13:21 am »
So anyway targets for this window as opposed to promises for next ... feels like Laimer would fit the bill

https://fbref.com/en/players/c1b7847c/Konrad-Laimer

Had a bad injury last year but was a break so not a long term concern and he came back the same player
Pressing monster whose really versatile and good on the ball, peak age - not on silly wages
Last year of his contract I think and we have good relations with RB .. apparently Bayern wanted him but wouldn't pay the 30 million (or something) RB wanted - exactly the sort of opportunity we like
Feels ideal, and he's versatile enough that it wouldn't affect whoever you wanted to go and get next year

Why not a straight swap for Naiby if he's not willing to continue discussing an extension.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36018 on: August 18, 2022, 01:39:23 am »
he was discussed earlier - but unfortunately not even a tenuous link to him
Yeah what links there are couldn't be Laimer
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36019 on: August 18, 2022, 02:20:44 am »
Just not sure you can count on anything but defensive numbers translating out of the BuLi at this point.

I mean they will translate the question is how - a shit ton of talent has come out of Germany in recent years regardless of if the league's weak ... oh and his defensive numbers are great

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36020 on: August 18, 2022, 02:21:00 am »
he was discussed earlier - but unfortunately not even a tenuous link to him

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36021 on: August 18, 2022, 03:30:23 am »
I mean they will translate the question is how - a shit ton of talent has come out of Germany in recent years regardless of if the league's weak ... oh and his defensive numbers are great

What transfer out in midfield or attack has been a success recently? Portugal seemingly translates better which is why nobody is throwing crazy money at Nkunku.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36022 on: August 18, 2022, 05:55:43 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail



Always rated Simon Jones (just switch to another publication, lad).

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36023 on: August 18, 2022, 06:06:41 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail



Yeah, its that easy.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36024 on: August 18, 2022, 06:22:12 am »
Is this Retconning guy everybody talks about any good?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36025 on: August 18, 2022, 06:49:22 am »
I'll be very surprised if we allowed Keita to leave so late in the window. I already felt like we needed one CM this window (which seems to be proving difficult), and if we sell Keita, I honestly feel we would need to bring in two this window and that is very unlikely to happen.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36026 on: August 18, 2022, 08:34:53 am »
Personally wouldn’t have lost any sleep if keita  was sold in the summer for a decent fee and replaced but letting him go now seems to risky .

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36027 on: August 18, 2022, 08:39:37 am »
Personally wouldn’t have lost any sleep if keita  was sold in the summer for a decent fee and replaced but letting him go now seems to risky .
Not as risky as giving him a new 4/5 year deal (probably on better terms) when we don't know how his body's going to hold up.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36028 on: August 18, 2022, 08:51:31 am »
Not as risky as giving him a new 4/5 year deal (probably on better terms) when we don't know how his body's going to hold up.

, looked excellent in Germany but has never reproduced that form with us . To be fair has had a few games we’re you thought we have a top player.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36029 on: August 18, 2022, 09:04:29 am »
, looked excellent in Germany but has never reproduced that form with us . To be fair has had a few games we’re you thought we have a top player.

Must be a nightmare for anyone with that injury record of course, you must be terrified of getting a knock again or something twanging, got to effect confidence and make you play different from maybe what you normally would

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36030 on: August 18, 2022, 09:04:36 am »
Is this Retconning guy everybody talks about any good?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36031 on: August 18, 2022, 09:06:40 am »
The Reds expect to sign Borussia Dortmund's Jude Bellingham next summer - Simon Jones from the Mail



This gets weirder by the day.

He will have his pick of Clubs and could demand mad wages.
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36032 on: August 18, 2022, 09:16:03 am »
This gets weirder by the day.

He will have his pick of Clubs and could demand mad wages.

If he’ll have his pick of clubs it’s not weird at all
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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36033 on: August 18, 2022, 09:18:22 am »
This gets weirder by the day.

He will have his pick of Clubs and could demand mad wages.

What's weird about the idea that he might pick us? And if he does, presumably we'll be able to meet his wage demands.

It would be weird if we were not interested in one of the best young players in the world who plays in a position that we need to strengthen in. I don't know whether it's because some just don't want to get their hopes up and be disappointed if he does go elsewhere, but the possibility that we might sign Jude Bellingham really isn't that outlandish.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36034 on: August 18, 2022, 09:20:25 am »
If we get Bellingham then it will be a very expensive summer because we need another midfielder as well.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36035 on: August 18, 2022, 09:31:25 am »
What transfer out in midfield or attack has been a success recently? Portugal seemingly translates better which is why nobody is throwing crazy money at Nkunku.

Two things are true at once - the German league is weaker than before, there’s talent in the German league

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36036 on: August 18, 2022, 09:31:27 am »
Is this Retconning guy everybody talks about any good?

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36037 on: August 18, 2022, 09:33:52 am »
This gets weirder by the day.

He will have his pick of Clubs and could demand mad wages.

Strange comment.

All top players have the pick of the clubs and then decide on one.

Jude might have just decided he wants to join us. You now like VVD did, like Nunz did to name a few for example.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36038 on: August 18, 2022, 09:39:18 am »
If we get Bellingham then it will be a very expensive summer because we need another midfielder as well.

We could look at signing someone on a free if their contract is up. Players like Naby Keita for example.

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Re: LIVERPOOL TRANSFER THREAD
« Reply #36039 on: August 18, 2022, 09:41:13 am »
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