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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2520 on: August 11, 2024, 08:30:46 pm »
The racists will still be racists in their hearts. It's a crime to be openly racist but it will still leak in form of microaggressions and the vibe. Ethnic minorities feel it so it wasn't really a shock.

The UK government has shown that it's unacceptable as has acted swiftly prevented that damage to the country's image. Maybe a new approach such as education/awareness might be needed to remove the embedded unconscious bias some harbour.

The far right protesters just just lost in their protest and I've still not seen any down to earth plan explainign how their goals (getting rid of all non-white people) will work in practice.

Far right don’t have a plan.

The likes of Robinson just shout and repeat themselves until they believe it.

He’s reposted a video from some one claiming there will be a civil war in Uk. I thought he said he is promoting peace.

He also claims to be a journalist but does little research into any of the shit he spouts.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2521 on: August 11, 2024, 08:36:22 pm »
Far right don’t have a plan.

The likes of Robinson just shout and repeat themselves until they believe it.

He’s reposted a video from some one claiming there will be a civil war in Uk. I thought he said he is promoting peace.

He also claims to be a journalist but does little research into any of the shit he spouts.
It's just a case of the deep-rooted racism coming to the fore.

The country is not perfect? It's the non-whites and things will be 100% perfect without them.

That's the "plan".

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2522 on: August 11, 2024, 08:39:22 pm »
It's just a case of the deep-rooted racism coming to the fore.

The country is not perfect? It's the non-whites and things will be 100% perfect without them.

That's the "plan".

There isn’t a plan.

Asylum makes up 0.2% to 0.6% of the population.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2523 on: August 11, 2024, 10:02:30 pm »
There isn’t a plan.

Asylum makes up 0.2% to 0.6% of the population.

A mate posted that on FB last week and one of the replies was "more like 50%".  :butt
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2524 on: August 11, 2024, 10:05:58 pm »
And again when are the likes of bbc /itv be fined by ofcom for exciting Xenophobic and racist rhetoric?
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2525 on: August 12, 2024, 12:28:34 am »
A friend linked me to an article about the UK potentially requesting that the US extradite suspects accused of online agitation and hate speech after the Southport tragedy, fuelling the subsequent riots.

Personally I think the odds of the US agreeing to this are very low. Historically they really don't like it when their citizens get tried in foreign countries.

Article from the New York Post. Isn't that a Repug loving tabloid?

https://nypost.com/2024/08/10/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-to-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-online-posts-well-come-after-you/
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2526 on: August 12, 2024, 01:37:58 am »
A friend linked me to an article about the UK potentially requesting that the US extradite suspects accused of online agitation and hate speech after the Southport tragedy, fuelling the subsequent riots.

Personally I think the odds of the US agreeing to this are very low. Historically they really don't like it when their citizens get tried in foreign countries.

Article from the New York Post. Isn't that a Repug loving tabloid?

https://nypost.com/2024/08/10/media/uk-police-commissioner-threatens-to-extradite-jail-us-citizens-over-online-posts-well-come-after-you/

We have an extradition treaty and US citizens have been brought here to be tried. And vice-versa.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2527 on: August 12, 2024, 01:43:53 am »
We have an extradition treaty and US citizens have been brought here to be tried. And vice-versa.

I know we have a treaty, but the US has refused to extradite people before. 
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2528 on: August 12, 2024, 08:52:27 am »
A mate posted that on FB last week and one of the replies was "more like 50%".  :butt

This is a huge issue.

A lot of people read that a fact and then moan about things that don’t impact them. You would have heard them moaning about lack of dental and doctors appointments cause the ‘illegals’ get them and the same with benefits.

I worked with an older guy before who was in the day after Brexit. Never ever seen him so happy but ‘he doesn’t discuss politics with colleagues’. The irony of it all was his daughter lived in Canada and his sister lived in Portugal.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2529 on: August 12, 2024, 09:21:09 am »
Genuinely surprised that the coked up prick hasn`t been arrested yet. He has clearly incited and as far as I can tell, meets all the relevant criteria. Political decision at this stage to avoid enflaming the situation again ?
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2530 on: August 12, 2024, 09:28:35 am »
This is a huge issue.

A lot of people read that a fact and then moan about things that don’t impact them. You would have heard them moaning about lack of dental and doctors appointments cause the ‘illegals’ get them and the same with benefits.

I worked with an older guy before who was in the day after Brexit. Never ever seen him so happy but ‘he doesn’t discuss politics with colleagues’. The irony of it all was his daughter lived in Canada and his sister lived in Portugal.

Don't label all 'older guys' with the same brush.

He sounds like a gobshite.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2531 on: August 12, 2024, 09:52:45 am »
Don't label all 'older guys' with the same brush.

He sounds like a gobshite.

I didn’t label all older guys the same.

Maybe his age had nothing to do with him being a prick.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2532 on: August 12, 2024, 11:04:33 am »
Genuinely surprised that the coked up prick hasn`t been arrested yet. He has clearly incited and as far as I can tell, meets all the relevant criteria. Political decision at this stage to avoid enflaming the situation again ?

Intelligence will know where he is.

He’s only on bail as already been charged so assume he will spend some serious time in solidarity confinement as got to be more charges to add!
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2533 on: August 12, 2024, 11:07:42 am »
Intelligence will know where he is.

He’s only on bail as already been charged so assume he will spend some serious time in solidarity confinement as got to be more charges to add!

Technically he hasn’t been charged with anything but the warrant was issued for contempt of Court.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerxd00rlxo

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2534 on: August 12, 2024, 11:10:33 am »
Intelligence will know where he is.

He’s only on bail as already been charged so assume he will spend some serious time in solidarity confinement as got to be more charges to add!

No doubt that the authorities will know where he is, and I appreciate extradition takes a little time, but by now I would have thought an emergency application would have been made. I suspect the CPS will want to make sure any case is watertight and of course the political thinking will also be about making even more of a martyr out of him. At least if he is banged up in solitary it will be much harder for him to 'get his message out'. He would need to be in solitary anyway for his own safety. Between the big hard man image ( ;D) and his racism, it would make him quite the scalp for some prisoners !!
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2535 on: August 12, 2024, 11:49:38 am »
Technically he hasn’t been charged with anything but the warrant was issued for contempt of Court.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cjerxd00rlxo


This is quite serious for him as he has ignored what the judge said. Does he not think the law applies to him?

His list of convictions are quite long!
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2536 on: August 12, 2024, 12:31:14 pm »
This is quite serious for him as he has ignored what the judge said. Does he not think the law applies to him?

His list of convictions are quite long!

Yes. Good to see any opportunity to show how much if a wrong’un he is.

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2537 on: August 12, 2024, 12:41:30 pm »
Yes. Good to see any opportunity to show how much if a wrong’un he is.

The thing I find bizarre about his following is the fact he is a walking contradiction.

The stuff he claims to be angry about is the exact stuff he does. For example: He moaned that his children were in danger as his location was revealed but he then does the same to journalists. Shouldn't he rise above that?
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2538 on: August 12, 2024, 01:08:00 pm »
Whatever happened to Nick Griffith and the BNP?

He had a twitter spat with Tepid and disappeared

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2539 on: August 12, 2024, 01:11:53 pm »
The thing I find bizarre about his following is the fact he is a walking contradiction.

The stuff he claims to be angry about is the exact stuff he does. For example: He moaned that his children were in danger as his location was revealed but he then does the same to journalists. Shouldn't he rise above that?
They haven't got a brain cell between them. I said to one of his cult, "he's seeking sanctuary in someone else's country whilst vilifying others for seeking sanctuary in ours". The reply was, "well wouldn't you if you were being persecuted in your own country?"  :duh

The irony was completely lost on him.  By pushing his point, he was proving mine.

Should be rise above the things you mentioned? Of course, but he's not a serious voice. A dangerous voice, of course, but not a serious voice. He's nothing more than a self-glorified football hooligan, and he can't seem to get out of that mode.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2540 on: August 12, 2024, 01:18:16 pm »
FFS! An 11 year old girl and a 34 year old woman have just been stabbed in Leicester Square. These twats will be praying the perpetrator is Muslim.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2541 on: August 12, 2024, 01:39:31 pm »
FFS! An 11 year old girl and a 34 year old woman have just been stabbed in Leicester Square. These twats will be praying the perpetrator is Muslim.

Guaranteed mate, and what is more they will be demanding immediate information about the perpetrator despite the fact it happened about 2 hours ago
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2542 on: August 12, 2024, 01:40:40 pm »
FFS! An 11 year old girl and a 34 year old woman have just been stabbed in Leicester Square. These twats will be praying the perpetrator is Muslim.
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« Reply #2543 on: August 12, 2024, 01:44:38 pm »
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2544 on: August 12, 2024, 01:50:47 pm »
That's all the news I have on it at the moment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg5xx0gly8o
I hope it is not fatal and they pull through. Some will more focused on the race of the attacker on social media.

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2545 on: August 12, 2024, 01:52:56 pm »
I hope it is not fatal and they pull through. Some will more focused on the race of the attacker on social media.

Yaxley-Lemon has already posted about it. It's because the police are spending too much time on X apparently.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2546 on: August 12, 2024, 02:04:47 pm »
No doubt that the authorities will know where he is, and I appreciate extradition takes a little time, but by now I would have thought an emergency application would have been made. I suspect the CPS will want to make sure any case is watertight and of course the political thinking will also be about making even more of a martyr out of him. At least if he is banged up in solitary it will be much harder for him to 'get his message out'. He would need to be in solitary anyway for his own safety. Between the big hard man image ( ;D) and his racism, it would make him quite the scalp for some prisoners !!

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« Reply #2547 on: August 12, 2024, 02:11:30 pm »
Someone posted a link to a Facebook-group last week that was spreading mis-information using news pieces to agitate against refugees and stir hatred. Facebook took three days to check it and they don't think the group is "violating their community standards". That's the problem with social media summed up right there...

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« Reply #2548 on: August 12, 2024, 02:13:53 pm »
Someone posted a link to a Facebook-group last week that was spreading mis-information using news pieces to agitate against refugees and stir hatred. Facebook took three days to check it and they don't think the group is "violating their community standards". That's the problem with social media summed up right there...

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2549 on: August 12, 2024, 02:46:33 pm »
FFS! An 11 year old girl and a 34 year old woman have just been stabbed in Leicester Square. These twats will be praying the perpetrator is Muslim.

I wonder how they'll negatively spin that it was a brown skinned man called Abdullah who intervened, quite possibly saving lives.

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« Reply #2550 on: August 12, 2024, 02:55:35 pm »
I wonder how they'll negatively spin that it was a brown skinned man called Abdullah who intervened, quite possibly saving lives.

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« Reply #2551 on: August 12, 2024, 02:58:34 pm »
Grifters still have to grift.

Probably that it was a set up and he was in on it all along to make them look good by saving the day or some such nonsense 🤷

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If the social media platform can't regulate properly the Government needs to step in urgently.  It's a mess
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2553 on: August 12, 2024, 03:01:35 pm »
Fair play to Abdullah. He jumped on the attacker, grabbed his hand and got the knife away. Kudos to the other people too who helped keep the attacker down until the police came.
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« Reply #2555 on: August 12, 2024, 03:31:58 pm »
"Community standards" is bollocks now; all they care about is creating as much engagement as possible to earn as much ad rev as possible for the platform.

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« Reply #2556 on: August 12, 2024, 03:36:25 pm »

If the social media platform can't regulate properly the Government needs to step in urgently.  It's a mess

It's not going to be easy passing legislation to regulate a social media platform that isn't even based in the UK, but yeah, the government has been nice enough towards Meta and they've got nothing in return. The likes of Zuckerberg and Musk don't give a crap what cesspools they make because the bottom line is all that matters to them.

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2557 on: August 12, 2024, 04:06:21 pm »
Guaranteed mate, and what is more they will be demanding immediate information about the perpetrator despite the fact it happened about 2 hours ago

Wish people understood that releasing information in the public interest is not actually the same because Terry and Karen are publically interested in it...

The the immediate aftermath of an attack, all that people NEED to know is whether the suspect is apprehended and whether police/security services believe there is a residual threat.

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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2558 on: August 12, 2024, 04:18:48 pm »
Fair play to Abdullah. He jumped on the attacker, grabbed his hand and got the knife away. Kudos to the other people too who helped keep the attacker down until the police came.
I've only just got home and saw the latest on the story. Yes, well done Abdullah and the other people who helped out.
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Re: Trouble across the UK after Southport stabbings
« Reply #2559 on: August 12, 2024, 04:24:12 pm »
People want to hear the things that justify their own opinions, it makes them feel vindicated and correct. If any new attacker is from an ethnic minority, there are many that will take this information to justify their entire world view, regardless of any other information or facts related to the attacker (ie he knows the victims, the victims themselves are from the same ethnic group etc.)


If it turns out he is not, no problem (like Jake Davison), just wait until the next case which fits with your world view, don't adjust your world view to the fact that these random attacks (including Dunblane, Plymouth, most in the US, Hungerford, Exeter, below) may involve all sorts of groups and individuals. I'm a big fan of hypotheses being backed up by evidence, not many people are these days.


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/article/2024/jul/09/cameron-davis-guilty-lorna-england-murder-exeter
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