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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #760 on: August 16, 2024, 08:20:20 am »


Do eight car trains run on the Wirral outside of the Chester line? Did they run six car services with the old trains at peak times?

I remember them using 6 car services many years ago, more recently not so much.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #761 on: August 21, 2024, 08:21:17 pm »
The 507 is having a farewell tour. And I’ve never seen as clean a train as that pictured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1w78g12lpxo

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #762 on: August 21, 2024, 09:16:03 pm »
The 507 is having a farewell tour. And I’ve never seen as clean a train as that pictured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1w78g12lpxo

Unfortunately the tour on 15th September is now fully booked, i would have booked a place had i known about it earlier.  :(
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #763 on: August 21, 2024, 09:17:43 pm »
Waiting for the train to Hunts Cross today in Moorfields and saw an 8 carriage train for the first time. Filled the entire tunnel.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #764 on: August 22, 2024, 04:15:34 pm »
The 507 is having a farewell tour. And I’ve never seen as clean a train as that pictured.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c1w78g12lpxo

the 507s/8s always looked grubby when compared to their contemporaries down south like the older 313s. 
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #765 on: August 23, 2024, 12:20:02 pm »
Timetables all change from Monday.

Southport train terminates at Central with the Ormskirk train going to Hunts Cross.

To do with the final roll out of the 8 carriage trains.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #766 on: August 27, 2024, 04:27:35 pm »

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #767 on: August 27, 2024, 07:03:36 pm »
Yet more signalling problems on the Wirral Line!

https://www.wirralglobe.co.uk/news/24544746.wirral-train-line-services-disrupted-due-signalling-issues/

Apparently due to a fire, a mate was caught up in it earlier on, trains are back to normal now.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #768 on: September 28, 2024, 12:01:13 pm »
Looks like one of their trains ran out of battery last night between Kirkdale and Ormskirk and they have absolutely no idea how to move it.

Line will be blocked until at least 3

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #769 on: September 28, 2024, 01:28:13 pm »
Looks like one of their trains ran out of battery last night between Kirkdale and Ormskirk and they have absolutely no idea how to move it.

Line will be blocked until at least 3

According to someone on RailUK forums, it was a Network Rail unit with a seized axle that caused the issues not a 777, looking at traksy the unit has now been moved.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #770 on: September 29, 2024, 07:56:14 am »
According to someone on RailUK forums, it was a Network Rail unit with a seized axle that caused the issues not a 777, looking at traksy the unit has now been moved.

https://traksy.uk/live/M+40+BOOTLNS+-8

Yeah, battery shouldn't be an issue on that stretch of track as it's third rail. There's only the Headbolt Lane stretch that's unelectrified.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #771 on: October 2, 2024, 09:26:02 am »
What's the deal with Merseyrail not accepting electronic tickets purchased via, e.g. Trainline?

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #772 on: October 3, 2024, 08:53:51 pm »
What's the deal with Merseyrail not accepting electronic tickets purchased via, e.g. Trainline?

Yeah you have to get the ticket physically printed off at the station which is mad, even if it's just say going from Aigburth to Central then getting a train out the city from Lime Street.

Not sure if it's true but I heard that if the ticket doesn't get printed out then Merseyrail don't get the ticket monies.

The whole system is amazingly antiquated, I get a trio for work (and going the match) and that's still a card pass with your photo on it. They were talking about phasing them out over a decade ago now.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #773 on: October 4, 2024, 02:07:49 pm »
The fabled Moorfields entrance escalators wont now be finished until after May 2025...

The parts needed to refurbish them are no longer made and the company they asked in America to make the parts and the American company are struggling to make them....

Plus the roof over the escalators in leaking and will need to be fixed as well

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #774 on: October 4, 2024, 04:05:36 pm »
The fabled Moorfields entrance escalators wont now be finished until after May 2025...
Hopefully the ones from the Wirral Line platform are back in action. The steps are very tall and they seem to go on for ever. I presume that the member of station staff who stands at the top of said escalator laughing at breathless passengers is there in case of coronaries  ::)

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #775 on: October 4, 2024, 05:22:03 pm »
Hopefully the ones from the Wirral Line platform are back in action. The steps are very tall and they seem to go on for ever. I presume that the member of station staff who stands at the top of said escalator laughing at breathless passengers is there in case of coronaries  ::)

I was most insulted a few weeks ago when the one at the bottom suggested I use the lift.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #776 on: October 6, 2024, 12:59:41 am »
What's the deal with Merseyrail not accepting electronic tickets purchased via, e.g. Trainline?

People need to stop using the Trainline. It's provides absolutely no benefit and you get charged a booking fee on every ticket. Any of the rail operator apps charge the same price and do things like split ticketing now too.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #777 on: October 6, 2024, 09:06:38 am »
People need to stop using the Trainline. It's provides absolutely no benefit and you get charged a booking fee on every ticket. Any of the rail operator apps charge the same price and do things like split ticketing now too.

I use National Rail and even Avanti, who don’t charge fees.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #778 on: October 7, 2024, 09:46:33 am »
The fabled Moorfields entrance escalators wont now be finished until after May 2025...

The parts needed to refurbish them are no longer made and the company they asked in America to make the parts and the American company are struggling to make them....

Plus the roof over the escalators in leaking and will need to be fixed as well

State of the underground stations in town (bar maybe central) are absolutely criminal. Lifts and escalators constantly out of order / malfunctioning, leaking roofs, sewage coming out from the drains. Must be horrendous for anybody elderly or disabled to try and navigate. Laughable that these monstrosities exist in the centre of a supposed major city

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #779 on: October 7, 2024, 10:14:18 am »
No trains from Southport to Formby for the next week or so, in case anyone not aware.

Big car park at Formby but it gets full on a normal day so presume it will be very busy this week
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #780 on: October 7, 2024, 04:12:04 pm »
No trains from Southport to Formby for the next week or so, in case anyone not aware.

Big car park at Formby but it gets full on a normal day so presume it will be very busy this week

Yeah it was full on Saturday when I tried to park there to go into town.

Rail replacement buses to Southport.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #781 on: October 7, 2024, 04:32:46 pm »
Track replacement works until 14th October, Formby-Southport replaced by buses.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #782 on: October 16, 2024, 03:08:47 pm »
Rail replacement bus service on the Chester line, problems on the Ormskirk line too. Currently only the New Brighton line is running without any issues.
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #783 on: October 16, 2024, 04:08:57 pm »
Rail replacement bus service on the Chester line, problems on the Ormskirk line too. Currently only the New Brighton line is running without any issues.

What do you expect, it’s raining. :D

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« Reply #784 on: October 16, 2024, 04:46:23 pm »
What do you expect, it’s raining. :D

True. It's at times like these I am glad I live in New Brighton.  :D
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« Reply #785 on: October 16, 2024, 05:45:14 pm »
True. It's at times like these I am glad I live in New Brighton.  :D

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #786 on: October 16, 2024, 05:46:06 pm »
You have a great view of the Bitterdome? :o

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« Reply #787 on: October 16, 2024, 06:37:41 pm »
You have a great view of the Bitterdome? :o

Happily I cannot see that dreadful place. My friends lives opposite it though, her husband is livid about it.  ;D
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« Reply #788 on: October 16, 2024, 06:38:13 pm »
She'll have an even better one of Anfield  ;D

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #789 on: October 16, 2024, 07:28:25 pm »
She'll have an even better one of Anfield  ;D

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #790 on: October 17, 2024, 09:01:57 am »
People need to stop using the Trainline. It's provides absolutely no benefit and you get charged a booking fee on every ticket. Any of the rail operator apps charge the same price and do things like split ticketing now too.
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« Reply #791 on: October 17, 2024, 09:10:28 am »
For sure, I usually buy direct with Transport for Wales, Great Western Railway or via National Rail

I initially use Nation Rail which then takes you to the operators website. Used both Avanti and GWR without any problems.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #792 on: October 17, 2024, 09:38:23 am »
Rail replacement bus service on the Chester line,
Whenever there's heavy rain this is one of the first services to bite the dust. I think there's a general problem around the Hooton area (+/- a few miles). The landscape must be prone to flooding but I think there are local variations in weather around The Wirral. It always seems rainer around the M53 corridoor even when it's dry elsewhere so the land around the Chester line can be wetter at the best of times. Of course nowhere was dry yesterday  :(

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #793 on: October 17, 2024, 10:12:04 am »
Whenever there's heavy rain this is one of the first services to bite the dust. I think there's a general problem around the Hooton area (+/- a few miles). The landscape must be prone to flooding but I think there are local variations in weather around The Wirral. It always seems rainer around the M53 corridoor even when it's dry elsewhere so the land around the Chester line can be wetter at the best of times. Of course nowhere was dry yesterday  :(

It often seems to be signalling/electric supply around the tunnel as well. Having being stuck at James Street several times.

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #794 on: October 17, 2024, 10:52:07 am »
Whenever there's heavy rain this is one of the first services to bite the dust. I think there's a general problem around the Hooton area (+/- a few miles). The landscape must be prone to flooding but I think there are local variations in weather around The Wirral. It always seems rainer around the M53 corridoor even when it's dry elsewhere so the land around the Chester line can be wetter at the best of times. Of course nowhere was dry yesterday  :(

There are definite differences in the weather in Wirral, it can be raining in Birkenhead and dry in other parts. I think it has a really unique weather pattern to it. You are certainly right about Hooton, every time there is heavy rain it's vulnerable. I walk a lot around the North Wirral Country Park at the weekends and there is always new huge puddles in fields everywhere, the waders appreciate them anyway.  :D
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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #795 on: October 17, 2024, 11:34:25 am »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4y5xzdqqyo

Eurovision boost for record rail profits

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According to its directors' strategic report for the year ending in January 2024, some 78,000 journeys were taken on Merseyrail services on average every day.

There were 28 million passenger journeys, which the company said was a post-Covid peak. It added a profit of just under £44m was the largest in its history.
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The whole article is a bit longer, but seems like things are going well for Merseyrail.
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« Reply #796 on: October 17, 2024, 12:57:47 pm »
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cn4y5xzdqqyo

Eurovision boost for record rail profits

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According to its directors' strategic report for the year ending in January 2024, some 78,000 journeys were taken on Merseyrail services on average every day.

There were 28 million passenger journeys, which the company said was a post-Covid peak. It added a profit of just under £44m was the largest in its history.
...


The whole article is a bit longer, but seems like things are going well for Merseyrail.

They mention the Open golf as well which I'd imagine contibuted a lot more than Eurovision - 261,180 fans attended the Open at Hoylake and the article says the Open and Eurovision accounted for 182,000 extra journeys - vast majority of those would be heading to Hoylake rather than coming to town for Eurovision (not as good a headline obviously!)

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« Reply #797 on: October 17, 2024, 01:53:11 pm »
Liverpool Central is one of the busiest footfall train stations outside London and Birmingham which is crazy. Busier than Lime street.

I think Merseyrail handle those big events very well considering the sheer number of people and the overall footprint the station has. But the station needs major expansion and a good clean (not a cleaner holding a wet rag against the escalator handles while its moving).

I feel that if you wanted to spend £100m on something then I would be spending it on that over Liverpool Baltic

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Re: Merseyrail - now with added 777
« Reply #798 on: October 17, 2024, 08:11:12 pm »
Liverpool Central is one of the busiest footfall train stations outside London and Birmingham which is crazy. Busier than Lime street.

I think Merseyrail handle those big events very well considering the sheer number of people and the overall footprint the station has. But the station needs major expansion and a good clean (not a cleaner holding a wet rag against the escalator handles while its moving).

I feel that if you wanted to spend £100m on something then I would be spending it on that over Liverpool Baltic

I used to hate Central at Christmas, platforms always rammed.
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« Reply #799 on: October 18, 2024, 08:02:32 pm »
So vandalism has cause some of the problems on the Wirral line.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3e9l51x052o