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Commando magazine was required reading in the early 1960s as was Captain Hurricane RM and his side kick 'Maggot' Malone who fetured in the Valiant.

Hurricane was famed for his raging fury, which he often turned on the invidious sneaky Japs, occasionally on the Krauts who were sometimes seen as a bit more gentlemanly, unless of course they wore a monocle and jackboots.

Racially sterotyping de rigeur in those halcyon days.

rob1966 · « **Reply #3889 on:** March 24, 2021, 10:32:39 am »

Quote from: So... Howard Phillips on March 23, 2021, 10:17:56 pm

Commando magazine was required reading in the early 1960s as was Captain Hurricane RM and his side kick 'Maggot' Malone who fetured in the Valiant.

Hurricane was famed for his raging fury, which he often turned on the invidious sneaky Japs, occasionally on the Krauts who were sometimes seen as a bit more gentlemanly, unless of course they wore a monocle and jackboots.

Racially sterotyping de rigeur in those halcyon days.

Pretty understandable when you think how raw the war still was, especially what the Japanese did to POWs, I can imagine they were really hated by ex servicemen and this was passed down. My great uncle was destroyed by the Japanese in a POW camp, he was never right until the day he died.

I know a little bit about Japanese attitudes due to doing Kendo and Karate and they really do not accept surrender, military service was to the death and therefore they treated POWs with contempt.

24/7 · « **Reply #3890 on:** March 24, 2021, 11:32:52 am »

Quote from: rob1966 on March 24, 2021, 10:32:39 am

Pretty understandable when you think how raw the war still was, especially what the Japanese did to POWs, I can imagine they were really hated by ex servicemen and this was passed down. My great uncle was destroyed by the Japanese in a POW camp, he was never right until the day he died.

I know a little bit about Japanese attitudes due to doing Kendo and Karate and they really do not accept surrender, military service was to the death and therefore they treated POWs with contempt.

I know we're a bit off topic but the film Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence sheds a lot of light on that......

rob1966 · « **Reply #3891 on:** March 24, 2021, 01:05:15 pm »

Quote from: 24∗7 on March 24, 2021, 11:32:52 am

I know we're a bit off topic but the film Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence sheds a lot of light on that......

Far East POWs returning. 3:44 shows the SS Manowai docking in Liverpool

<a href="https://www.youtube.com/v/9-B7g-QY1VE" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" class="bbc_link bbc_flash_disabled new_win">https://www.youtube.com/v/9-B7g-QY1VE</a>

Tsar Kastik · « **Reply #3892 on:** March 26, 2021, 09:42:37 am »

Quote from: rob1966 on March 24, 2021, 10:32:39 am

Pretty understandable when you think how raw the war still was, especially what the Japanese did to POWs, I can imagine they were really hated by ex servicemen and this was passed down. My great uncle was destroyed by the Japanese in a POW camp, he was never right until the day he died.

I know a little bit about Japanese attitudes due to doing Kendo and Karate and they really do not accept surrender, military service was to the death and therefore they treated POWs with contempt.

The people who run this site https://www.pows-of-japan.net/guestbook2/guestbook.php know most of everything re Japanese POWs, if you want to enquire about someone you know. They did wonders for me.

Medellin · « **Reply #3893 on:** March 27, 2021, 06:51:49 pm »

1979.

1904 & 1927.

1965.

John C · « **Reply #3894 on:** March 27, 2021, 07:23:08 pm »

What's going on in the 1904 pic Med? Is it foundations for something?

Medellin · « **Reply #3895 on:** March 27, 2021, 07:34:38 pm »

Quote from: John C on March 27, 2021, 07:23:08 pm

What's going on in the 1904 pic Med? Is it foundations for something?

Both photos of what is now Paddy's Wigwam mate.

Red Beret · « **Reply #3896 on:** March 27, 2021, 07:37:30 pm »

Quote from: Medellin on March 27, 2021, 07:34:38 pm

Both photos of what is now Paddy's Wigwam mate.

So for the Lutyen's Crypt then.

Medellin · « **Reply #3897 on:** March 27, 2021, 08:05:09 pm »

Quote from: Red Berry on March 27, 2021, 07:37:30 pm

So for the Lutyen's Crypt then.

Dunno if i should be amazed at this one..did stun me a bit like.

1935..

Leaving this one for the 'southern softies' in ere to get this location.

Don't look bottom right*

rob1966 · « **Reply #3898 on:** March 27, 2021, 08:30:03 pm »

Quote from: Medellin on March 27, 2021, 08:05:09 pm

Dunno if i should be amazed at this one..did stun me a bit like.

1935..

Leaving this one for the 'southern softies' in ere to get this location.
Don't look bottom right*

With all that wood I though it was the Bullens

SamAteTheRedAcid · « **Reply #3899 on:** March 27, 2021, 08:53:56 pm »

Quote from: Medellin on March 27, 2021, 06:51:49 pm

I'm confused by the angle on this one. What's the corner? I'd assumed if this is the crypt then it would be Brownlow Hill on the left and where the gravestones are is now where the student guild on the right. But then I thought 'Where's the Victoria Building?' which would be top left in my scenario. So I must have it wrong. But I can't quite rotate it in my mind.

Medellin · « **Reply #3900 on:** March 27, 2021, 09:08:49 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on March 27, 2021, 08:53:56 pm

I'm confused by the angle on this one. What's the corner? I'd assumed if this is the crypt then it would be Brownlow Hill on the left and where the gravestones are is now where the student guild on the right. But then I thought 'Where's the Victoria Building?' which would be top left in my scenario. So I must have it wrong. But I can't quite rotate it in my mind.

Bravo! +1

Now to confirm the right place!

Tesco tearaway · « **Reply #3901 on:** March 27, 2021, 09:39:46 pm »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on March 27, 2021, 08:53:56 pm

I'm confused by the angle on this one. What's the corner? I'd assumed if this is the crypt then it would be Brownlow Hill on the left and where the gravestones are is now where the student guild on the right. But then I thought 'Where's the Victoria Building?' which would be top left in my scenario. So I must have it wrong. But I can't quite rotate it in my mind.

This is the Anglican Cathedral

Tesco tearaway · « **Reply #3902 on:** March 27, 2021, 09:50:56 pm »

Quote from: Medellin on March 27, 2021, 06:51:49 pm

This is the building at the very top of the picture.

Medellin · « **Reply #3903 on:** April 1, 2021, 08:23:02 pm »

YO! Asking which one would you bring back?

https://twitter.com/YOLiverpool/status/1373680150718652425?s=20

Medellin · « **Reply #3904 on:** April 1, 2021, 08:27:50 pm »

Dunno the scale of it but I'd like to see our castle rebuilt on the festival site which is a very close second to the dockers umbrella.
Very tough call that.

rob1966 · « **Reply #3905 on:** April 1, 2021, 09:11:50 pm »

The overhead railway.

Tesco tearaway · « **Reply #3906 on:** April 1, 2021, 09:43:19 pm »

I'd love to have Liverpool Castle reinstated.

CornerFlag · « **Reply #3907 on:** April 2, 2021, 04:37:29 am »

Torn between the castle and the Ovee. Probably leaning towards the latter but that's tough. The Sailor's Home going was a(nother) modern-day disgrace.

Medellin · « **Reply #3908 on:** April 2, 2021, 08:43:11 am »

Can you imagine us having a castle!
As bonkers as it sounds..fuck knows how much it would cost, the visitor numbers..liners seeing it from the mersey too.
As much as I'd love to see the overhead railway return..the castle has to be No1.

rob1966 · « **Reply #3909 on:** April 2, 2021, 09:04:57 am »

Quote from: Medellin on April 2, 2021, 08:43:11 am

Can you imagine us having a castle!
As bonkers as it sounds..fuck knows how much it would cost, the visitor numbers..liners seeing it from the mersey too.
As much as I'd love to see the overhead railway return..the castle has to be No1.

If it was the original castle that had never been knocked down then yes, but a modern built one would just be a fake. Anyway, you can see Anfield from the liners, what more do you want?

The overhead railway would have a function these days, proper transport into town and could also be used in Spiderman films.

John C · « **Reply #3910 on:** April 3, 2021, 08:43:01 am »

Booker Ave garage 1938

moondog · « **Reply #3911 on:** April 3, 2021, 08:56:32 am »

I love this thread.
Looks like an early adopter of 5G tower!!!
I recall this petrol station being there in the 70s , when did it close/ was it demolished? Also remember one on Lance Lane where the doctors is now.

John C · « **Reply #3912 on:** April 3, 2021, 10:05:05 am »

Quote from: moondog on April 3, 2021, 08:56:32 am

I recall this petrol station being there in the 70s , when did it close/ was it demolished? Also remember one on Lance Lane where the doctors is now.

They built a mini Co-op and 2 houses on the site about 3 years ago mate.

24/7 · « **Reply #3913 on:** April 3, 2021, 10:08:59 am »

Quote from: John C on April 3, 2021, 08:43:01 am

Booker Ave garage 1938

Never knew you were a decent photographer back in the day...

Red Beret · « **Reply #3914 on:** April 3, 2021, 10:21:18 am »

Quote from: CornerFlag on April 2, 2021, 04:37:29 am

Torn between the castle and the Ovee. Probably leaning towards the latter but that's tough. The Sailor's Home going was a(nother) modern-day disgrace.

Torn down the year I was born for a civil service office that was never built. Spent the next 30 years as a hole in the ground till they built Liverpool One.

As for the castle, there's always the scale replica of it as a ruin up by Rivington Reservoir.

Edit: forgive the poor image quality, I had to compress these from maps on my phone.

moondog · « **Reply #3915 on:** April 3, 2021, 10:45:29 am »

Quote from: John C on April 3, 2021, 10:05:05 am

They built a mini Co-op and 2 houses on the site about 3 years ago mate.

Yeah I know that (2016 opened) , but the garage wasn’t open until then - do you know when it closed?

So… Howard Philips · « **Reply #3916 on:** April 3, 2021, 01:09:40 pm »

Quote from: rob1966 on April 2, 2021, 09:04:57 am

If it was the original castle that had never been knocked down then yes, but a modern built one would just be a fake. Anyway, you can see Anfield from the liners, what more do you want?

The overhead railway would have a function these days, proper transport into town and could also be used in Spiderman films.

The Overhead Railway out to Bramley Moore? We’d never hear the last of it.

Medellin · « **Reply #3917 on:** April 3, 2021, 06:50:03 pm »

St Peters Church..was apparently where Primark is now, demolished in 1922.

..and inside..

..from YO!

Big Red Richie · « **Reply #3918 on:** April 4, 2021, 11:09:32 am »

Quote from: SamAteTheRedAcid on March 27, 2021, 08:53:56 pm

I'm confused by the angle on this one. What's the corner? I'd assumed if this is the crypt then it would be Brownlow Hill on the left and where the gravestones are is now where the student guild on the right. But then I thought 'Where's the Victoria Building?' which would be top left in my scenario. So I must have it wrong. But I can't quite rotate it in my mind.

Correct.

The underground tunnels run from Olive Mount Cuttings to Edge Hill Station through the university campus, down the side of Brownlow Hill, and into the back of Lime Street Station.

If you think about it, there is aplaza in front of The Augustus John, and Mountford Hall that isn't built over. this is where the rail tunnels run underneath.

there's a well published photo somewhere,, looking from the other direction, while under construction.

Found this. Its not the photoI was looking for. Shows the view from the University tower, looking uphill, with Mountford Hall loower right.

Red Beret · « **Reply #3919 on:** April 4, 2021, 11:19:02 am »

Quote from: Tesco tearaway on March 27, 2021, 09:50:56 pm

This is the building at the very top of the picture.

Googlemap 3D to the rescue. It's hard to get the exact position as the Anglican blocks the shot, so I've approximated with the little mausoleum in top left.

Incidentally for anybody who doesn't know, that little mausoleum is a dumping ground for orphaned statues from buildings in the city that have been demolished.