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Which planet is Hansen on?
« on: April 16, 2007, 01:15:14 pm »
“There are those, like the Watford manager, Aidy Boothroyd, who did not want an FA Cup Final between Chelsea and Manchester United because the English game is becoming too much like Scotland’s Old Firm“, wrote Alan Hansen in today’s Daily Telegraph. 

He continued, “I can see their argument, but those people are viewing their football from another planet.  This is the final that will open the new Wembley, the stadium that has taken up so much of the FA’s time and money.  Chelsea versus Manchester United is a game that will sell around the world in a way that, however brave Mark Hughes’ team were at Old Trafford yesterday, Blackburn versus Manchester United would not have done.  Wembley is a fabulous venue and this has the makings of an absolutely compelling final.  Why would you not want to see the two best teams in the country facing each other in the finest surroundings?” 

Maybe it’s the difference between being a fan, admittedly a biased one and being a pundit who is paid for an opinion and in some ways paid for a viewpoint which trots out the party line that makes me wonder do Hansen and his cronies really know what makes fans tick?  After all, aren’t BBC showing the FA Cup final?  Doesn’t Alan Hansen work for the BBC?  You’d hardily expect him to speak in disparaging tones of a game which is supposed to be the pinnacle of club football tournaments. 

As much as I’ve admired Hansen as a player and as a reasonably articulate television analyst, I’ve grown dismissive of his views and indeed tend to turn a deaf ear to most of the so-called experts these days.  I don’t need an ex-player to tell me why a substitution was made or why the manager decided to play one player up front when it is blindingly obvious to those that have even the slightest interest in the game.  Few pundits offer real insight these days which is maybe why those like Martin O’Neill are like a breath of fresh air, whereas others like Paul Merson only serve to bemuse fans with their general ignorance and indeed offer themselves up to ridicule when they make rather foolish predictions (do the words Redknapp and Barcelona ring a bell, Paul?)  Somewhere a village is missing its idiot.

At times you’d be better picking a cross-section of fans to give their synopsis of games.  At least they would be honest and not handicapped by having to ensure that their comments are in line with those of whatever media organisation that they happen to be in the employ.  In fact Hansen’s comments only exacerbate my frustration that the big clubs and the media ever increasingly believe their own hype and don’t understand what the game is about at all and in fact have no interest in telling it like it really is as they pander to their own agendas. 

Hansen mentions Boothroyd’s comments and to be honest, I find it hard to disagree with the Watford manager.  Obviously I have to admit that my bias colours my vision.  I mean, what Liverpool fan would really want to see Manchester United and Chelsea in the final anyway?  But leaving that aside, FA Cup finals have become on the whole, rather tedious affairs in recent years and you have to go back to 1991 for the last time one of the current ‘big four’ weren’t in the final.  Hard to believe isn’t it?  But if that doesn’t say something about the modern game, nothing does.  Since 1950 there have usually been 11-12 different finalists in each decade right up to the end of the century.  However since 2000 only three teams outside the ‘big four’ have made it to the final and does anyone really see that changing by 2010 with the amount of money being spent by these clubs and the fact that each of them can virtually put out two teams of full internationals?  In January, Mourinho had the cheek to whine about his injury list when playing at Anfield and yet nine of the players he fielded that day had played in the 2006 World Cup finals.  If only Aidy Boothroyd lived on that planet. 

Fans of Pompey, Wolves or Chester must be sick of the sight of the same cliche of clubs reaching every final and this does nothing to dispel the general disillusionment that many fans have with the direction the modern game is taking.  Maybe familiarity does breed contempt? 

You can argue that this year’s finalists are the strongest and best footballing ones in the land – but quite frankly, so what?  Cup football is not about the best teams being in finals.  It never has been.  Just ask Arsene Wenger who seemed to want to elicit empathy for his view that Liverpool were not the best team in the Champions League in 2005.  Although oddly enough, he didn’t repeat his comments the following year when his own team reached the Champions League final in Paris (and won precisely nothing that season).  But then we know Arsene’s vision is not the best at times. 

If FA Cup finals were all about the best teams, then surely the League champions and runner-up would be the prime candidates for finalists every year and yet it rarely has been that way.  Teams like Luton, Forest and WBA, would never be allowed near Wembley if you follow Hansen’s rationale. 

And that’s the problem which Hansen doesn’t seem to realise. 

He claims that people like Boothroyd are viewing football from another planet.  Maybe we are, but he talks as if the new Wembley has to have only the best teams in the final, as if only they will be worthy to tread its hallowed turf. 

Utter nonsense. 

Ask fans about memorable finals (obviously avoiding those involving their own teams) and names like Sunderland, Blackpool, Wimbledon, Coventry and Ipswich spring to mind.  Having two giants of the game taking part doesn’t guarantee anything.  Remember 1996?  Liverpool v Manchester United.  Probably the worst final in 50 years, but according to Hansen, it’s better having them there because more people will want to watch it and more income can be derived from it.  That’s why average football fans like myself wonder just what planet the pundits are on at times. 

Super Sunday?  Soporific Sunday mostly when you consider the hype that goes into each game.  It’s football, for goodness sake.  90% of it is dull and tedious – that’s the nature of the game and we actually don’t mind because if we did, why would 4428 turn out at Rotherham at the weekend to watch their team be relegated?  If we only turned out to watch teams that win trophies, there would only be about half a dozen teams in the whole league. 

Football is much more than winning trophies – it’s great when you do, but it’s a lot more than that.  For smaller clubs and an ever decreasing number of big clubs, it’s about a sense of community and identity.  Ask a Hereford fan about great moments in their history and I guarantee Ronnie Radford gets a mention; Colchester fans would mention the game against Leeds; Bournemouth, the MU game; Carlisle and Jimmy Glass and it goes on.  And none of them really believed they were going to win the league or cup because of one victory. 

Watford versus Blackburn would have been just as great a spectacle for the average fan.  It’s the FA Cup final we are talking about here, not the Leyland DAF Freight Rover Trumpton vase.  We talking about an institution.  The only people concerned about big teams in the final are those selling the television rights abroad and that’s where Hansen loses credibility in my eyes. 

So what if two unfashionable teams make the final?  They would have earned the right to be there.  Just because the Beeb or Sky may not make a packet selling it to Singapore or Timbuktu doesn’t make any less a spectacle for the average football fan.  Remember when Man City had the play-off game against Gillingham a few years ago at Wembley (when they were two leagues below the Premiership).  A real Wembley cracker, but for Hansen et al they wouldn’t be worthy of playing there, at least not in a proper game like the FA cup final. 

Maybe Big Al should climb down from his ivory tower and remember it’s the twin towers of Wembley and the cup final occasion itself which fans remember.  Watford and Blackburn sharing a 4-3 thriller would have been just fine on my planet. 

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #1 on: April 16, 2007, 01:22:45 pm »
sadly sadly sadly mr hansen (a red legend of just about the highest order) joined twats like lawrenson redknapp, an others a long time ago, hate to say it hansens a twat as a pundit, he loves the sound of his voice an talk shite.


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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #2 on: April 16, 2007, 01:25:16 pm »
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #3 on: April 16, 2007, 01:32:08 pm »
Watford versus Blackburn would have been just as great a spectacle for the average fan.  It’s the FA Cup final we are talking about here, not the Leyland DAF Freight Rover Trumpton vase.  We talking about an institution.  The only people concerned about big teams in the final are those selling the television rights abroad and that’s where Hansen loses credibility in my eyes.

Watford vs Blackburn would have lived on for far longer. Chelsea vs Man Utd will be a regulation cagey affair, and it will merge with all of their other big games in the mind - it is unlikely to live forever.  Watford fans still hark back to 1984. To teams outside of the big 4 reaching a final really means something. For many it will be a once in a lifetime experience.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #4 on: April 16, 2007, 01:37:05 pm »
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #5 on: April 16, 2007, 01:48:13 pm »
Sums it up in it's entirety. I got home from Villa Park and on Sunday I sat down and watched the game having recorded it on my Sky +. Firstly the initial comments from Lineker and co were highly disrespectful to Watford and the commentators too talked as though Watford didn't deserve to get to the final as they are a small club. They fought and did well.

However a Chelsea vs Man Utd final is the worst possible thing, for the reasons mentioned above and everyone loves an underdog story. Liverpool vs West Ham, close encounter and a real cracker of a game. Arsenal vs Southampton, close and the underdogs did look good at times. Games such as this are FA Cup matches, the FA Cup is about the upsets. Not the sheer tedium that is endured by seeing the two top teams playing each other for the umpteenth time in a season, nothing could be more boring in my opinion!

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #6 on: April 16, 2007, 02:18:15 pm »
I would agree. The punditry on the BBC now is - to put to it as delicately as one should - fucking awful.

Banal comments rehashing the bleedin' obvious. Hansen mouths the same stock phrases over and over again; he could be replaced by a wooden puppet with a voicebox. Shearer; unspeakable, he may as well be creosoting his fence in front of the screen for all the charisma he offers. And boyish charm wore off about 4 years ago.

Bring in Michael Robinson, the best TV pundit in Europe: and he does it in fucking Spanish too!

Get Michael Robinson, James Richardson and Guillaime Ballague and send the BBC lot over to ITV1 where they belong.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #7 on: April 16, 2007, 02:28:40 pm »
Fuck em all.

Bring in that all singing south american dude.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #8 on: April 16, 2007, 02:30:35 pm »
Got to disagree with most of what's been written here - taking my Liverpool hat off, I would much prefer to watch a Man U Chelsea final than a Blackburn Watford one.

And as for all the abuse that Hansen gets on these pages, anybody would think we're talking about Robbie Earle! In the league of pundits, Hansen is one of the better ones, though, admittedly, that's sometimes not saying much.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #9 on: April 16, 2007, 02:33:54 pm »
 :wellin

Too right. If Liverpool can't be in the final, then I wan't some small team (not everton) to win it.

I'll probably watch anyway because it is the Fa Cup Final, but I would be more likely to watch it if the mancs or chelsea weren't there.

I hate the media's version of dream finals.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #10 on: April 16, 2007, 03:35:23 pm »
(I used to like Hansen's punditry) but he sounds like a wind-up robot now. Bring back Jimmy Hill!
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #11 on: April 16, 2007, 03:53:38 pm »
excellent, excellent article.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #12 on: April 16, 2007, 04:04:38 pm »
Feck me! If fans aren't slaggin' off Owen, Houllier, Pennant et all, its Jocky's turn to get savaged.

I think some do it because they are incapable of thinking for themselves and dont want to appear out of step with the masses.

Some people are living indeed on another planet if they think we want to see the likes of blackburn or watford play filth or ch  avski respectively in a final. Who wants what will probably be a totally one sided affair as the filth watford semi was?

Hansen's not a journo. He's an ex player telling it like it is, at worst, he's merely giving his own view.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #13 on: April 16, 2007, 04:12:18 pm »
Good read and very good points. I especially agree with the sentiment of bias that all pundits display and I also feel they are often unaware of their warped views. Sometimes, their personal ignorance is staggering. Take for example zonal marking, they kept going on about it till the cows went home, and they still carried on. Despite numerous clean sheets, and Rafa managing one of the meanest defences in the clubs history, and only now they seem to have shut up about it. They simply don’t like what they don’t understand and football has moved on from their simplistic idea of it. Just because someone has the talent to play, dose not mean they have the brains to understand ideas that have not been coached into them. Then to ask them to understand finance and politics, in the football sense, is too much. Poor things  :(

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #14 on: April 16, 2007, 07:59:41 pm »
Got to disagree with most of what's been written here - taking my Liverpool hat off, I would much prefer to watch a Man U Chelsea final than a Blackburn Watford one.


I tend to agree with you. While the romance of the Cup is very charming I can't really get enthused about an FA Cup final between two fairly small Premiership teams. My extreme dislike for ManU actually gives the game some edge, as I'll be rooting for Chelsea on the day. Okay, I'm no fan of Chelsea but they don't enter the same planet of hatred to that of the Mancs. In truth, I couldn't care less who won or lost between Watford and Blackburn and that genuinely diminishes the spectacle.

It may be a rather harsh view but I'd be being disingenuous to claim that I'd love to see a big match contested between two teams I have no feelings towards (good or bad). However, on the debit side, I won't be looking forward to the "greatest game of all time" and other such hyperbole that will be attached to the fixture. I suppose avoiding Sky will be advised on this occasion – the BBC (and Hansen) cannot be accused of matching Murdoch’s demented and hysterical propagation of anything they cover.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #15 on: April 16, 2007, 08:38:54 pm »
Hopefully they'll knock seven shades of shit out of each other.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #16 on: April 16, 2007, 09:34:38 pm »
For the neutral, for the media, it probably IS a 'dream final'.

I'd have preferred Watford vs Blackburn myself. At least then I could have been arsed to watch it. Any other combination would have either been an obvious win for one of the 'big 2' and/or the fucking mancs in the final and I've got no interest in watching it. I might stick it on as background noise but that's it.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #17 on: April 16, 2007, 10:06:33 pm »
i hate football on the BBC.  they are such a little clique!  So sarcastic and just talking bollocks.  Motson is the worst commentator ever, chuckling through inane facts that he's reading off a screen whilst pretending he's rattling them from his brain.

ITV have Townsend and Earle, 2 goons!  Pisses me off when they critique players, cos they were average to be generous.

Sky is shit too.  Redknapp is useless and when they wheel out that cockey wide boy fella Tony Gale for the lesser games, i want to put my head in a bucket of shit. I mean who the fuck is he!  Souness normally tells it right on there though.  Gullit always looks/acts stoned

Disappointed that its always the big teams winning the final (except when its us) but agree that I will watch this game but may have done something else should it have been Blackburn Watford.  Was glad Chelsea went through as I reckon Utd would have slaughtered Blackburn.  At least this won't be a formality.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #18 on: April 16, 2007, 11:06:25 pm »
I was going to ignore this but I couldn't let this go:

"I mean, what Liverpool fan would really want to see Manchester United and Chelsea in the final anyway? "

- This is an honest statement. If it was a Liverpool v Man Utd final and Alan Hansen had made the statement, this article would never have been written. That is also true. Bit of sour grapes here I think however much you try to deny it.

BTW - you can stick every TV pundit up against a wall and shoot them for all I care. Every single one of them with the Sky lot at the front.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #19 on: April 16, 2007, 11:09:56 pm »
Got to disagree with most of what's been written here - taking my Liverpool hat off, I would much prefer to watch a Man U Chelsea final than a Blackburn Watford one.

And as for all the abuse that Hansen gets on these pages, anybody would think we're talking about Robbie Earle! In the league of pundits, Hansen is one of the better ones, though, admittedly, that's sometimes not saying much.


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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2007, 09:45:01 am »
Truly it is all about opinion!!
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #21 on: April 17, 2007, 09:59:30 am »
Fuck em all.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #22 on: April 17, 2007, 10:28:21 am »
Good post Steve M,the games moved on so why havent the pundits?Its the same drivel time after time for me.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #23 on: April 17, 2007, 02:28:00 pm »
Good post, and agree with most of this. Hansen does seem to have been sucked into the mire of mediocrity at the BBC, though I wonder how long his golden age as a pundit lasted anyway.

As for the lad who posted that a big team vs an underdog was always more appealing, like Arsenal v Southampton a few years ago… Sorry mate, but that final was one of the worst i've ever seen, an embarrassing example of one smaller team being totally overawed by better opponents and playing a damage limitation game from the kick-off. It was awful.

And Man Utd v Millwall anyone? Same - utter dross.

At least we can look forward to Chelsea taking a few lumps out of the mancs - the tighter and nastier this final the better, with the CL final coming up soon behind
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #24 on: April 17, 2007, 02:53:48 pm »
I read this when I was offline before - an absolutely fantastic read. I love these sort of articles. Thanks.

I think a few people have slightly misinterpreted things - the issue isn't Alan Hansen, per say, but generally pundits and people in the media in this day and age, as a whole.

The FA Cup always has been the smaller sides competition: I know Hereford beat Newcastle in 1972, but I can't for the life of me remember who actually won the competition. I think it's lost it's sparkle. In fact, I know it has. Small teams sacrifice playing Premiership opposition on their actual ground, because they want more revenue. Bring back boggy pitches in the freezing cold!

So, again, thanks Steve for a great read, and here's to a 1st v 2nd final and another nail in the FA Cup coffin.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #25 on: April 17, 2007, 03:29:58 pm »
I would agree with much of that Steve. Although I live in Sweden and don't get to listen to the "pundits" at SKY and BBC, the same rationale seem to apply here. Guess what happens when SKY pay £1 billion for 3 years and BBC one tenth of that during the same time to get the rights to show matchday highlights. Insane the game has gone indeed.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #26 on: April 17, 2007, 08:23:08 pm »

As for the lad who posted that a big team vs an underdog was always more appealing, like Arsenal v Southampton a few years ago… Sorry mate, but that final was one of the worst i've ever seen, an embarrassing example of one smaller team being totally overawed by better opponents and playing a damage limitation game from the kick-off. It was awful.

And Man Utd v Millwall anyone? Same - utter dross.



True but Liverpool v West Ham last year was an exceptional final. That was big v underdog.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #27 on: April 17, 2007, 08:40:53 pm »
I'm sorry. But a lot of people on here are just spouting  the screaming obvious but appearing to make out as if they're being terribly insightful.

Firstly, "money has torn the heart out of the game" has been done to death for the best part of 10 years. Surely it's time to collectively remove ourselves from this ivory tower of sanctimony and worthiness.

Secondly, the FA Cup has nearly always been won by a big team, even before Sky came along. Indeed, you have to go back to the 70s to get your last second division team success. The 80s were largely dominated by us, Everton, Spurs and ManU. Even since the "money" came into the game there have been plenty of small teams succeed in the Cup. Wycombe got to the semis in 2001, Burnley beat us in 2005 (although we did field a poor team), Crystal Palace did the same in 2003 (at Anfield), Barnsley knocked ManU out in 1997, Millwall reached the Final in 2004.

The FA Cup has not lost its sparkle due to a lack of “small team” success, it is far more to do with its sliding position on the footballing landscape. Champions League football is so massive now that the FA Cup, with its reward of a UEFA Cup berth, is bound to be reduced in importance. I honestly believe the much-revered romantic era of the FA Cup never really existed in the form that we are led to believe it did. Big teams have always dominated – even Liverpool only won it after their initial rise under Shankly.

I don’t think people can blame the media for wanting a top-two glamour tie. Why is it they want it? Just to lick the backsides of Fergie and Mourinho? No. It’s because most football fans want the big teams to be involved. If this wasn’t the case the TV companies would prefer smaller teams involved. They want the big audiences and that happens when the best two teams in the land go head-to-head. In reality, small teams are boring. Very few people support them, or even care about them. What ever you say, we CARE about what ManU achieve. Well I do, I bloody hate it!
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #28 on: April 17, 2007, 08:53:20 pm »
here's to a 1st v 2nd final and another nail in the FA Cup coffin.
That nail you refer to would have been more than one and a lot bigger if the final had of been blackburn and watford.

To many people, its easy to say they'd rather watch such a final. The viewing figures prove it time after time that small teams equal small viewing figures. Generally it also equates to the small team getting battered.

The one thing I'd hate about filth or ch  avski winning the final is for one of them to be playing the likes of watford in the final and to win something like 5 or 6 - 0.
These are my own opinions. They are not meant or intended as a criticism of anyone else's opinion just because they are different but if you can't see past that, then tough shit!

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2007, 10:04:41 pm »


The FA Cup (or its Final) was once one of the only "live" games you saw on TV all season. The overkill of being able to watch a live game almost every night has demoted the FA Cup final to just another game.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #30 on: May 9, 2007, 02:32:27 pm »
Feck me! If fans aren't slaggin' off Owen, Houllier, Pennant et all, its Jocky's turn to get savaged.

I think some do it because they are incapable of thinking for themselves and dont want to appear out of step with the masses.

Some people are living indeed on another planet if they think we want to see the likes of blackburn or watford play filth or ch  avski respectively in a final. Who wants what will probably be a totally one sided affair as the filth watford semi was?

Hansen's not a journo. He's an ex player telling it like it is, at worst, he's merely giving his own view.

Wise up will yers?

I thank you, spot on.

I'm sorry. But a lot of people on here are just spouting  the screaming obvious but appearing to make out as if they're being terribly insightful.

Firstly, "money has torn the heart out of the game" has been done to death for the best part of 10 years. Surely it's time to collectively remove ourselves from this ivory tower of sanctimony and worthiness.

Secondly, the FA Cup has nearly always been won by a big team, even before Sky came along. Indeed, you have to go back to the 70s to get your last second division team success. The 80s were largely dominated by us, Everton, Spurs and ManU.

Exactly.

For the neutral, this is as big as it gets. If we're not involved, I'd personally rather watch these two bash each other about (and relish the prospect of seeing one of the two managers being cheesed off at the end), than watch Blackburn vs. Watford.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2007, 07:34:17 pm »
great article

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #32 on: May 13, 2007, 07:45:49 pm »
Sound read still think Hansen is the best around
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #33 on: May 13, 2007, 08:01:07 pm »
Crackin' article Steve, I believe it's the lack of smaller clubs (like the Evertons ;) ) not making the finals which has somewhat tarnished the FA silver a little.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2007, 02:32:15 pm »
All i can say is FA Cup well and good. I don't really care about the champions league 3rd-4th playoff (FA Cup) this year.
I was more delighted that the BBC's, ITV's and Sky's dream Champions league final was shot to sh1t by the reds and Milan.

i loved all the talk of as long as there is an english team in the final at the quarter final stage then the usual "lets kiss Chelsea and the mancs arses because nothing happened and/or existed before the premiership" stuff goes on.

In regards to what i'd prefer to see in the final other than the reds. hmm I'd rather see a decent  underdog and a top four club to be honest. teams like spurs who have a few decent players and are capable of pulling off an upset. Any team with a former manc in charge of them. well i'd rather they concentrated on getting sacked/religated or preferably both.
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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #35 on: May 14, 2007, 02:33:35 pm »
Oh yeah. and all pundits are rubbish and should be lined up and shot. there all so pro united and chelsea anyway i'd rather watch football first with the mute button on watching extended highlights of the reds.

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Re: Which planet is Hansen on?
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2007, 04:33:04 am »
i hate football on the BBC.  they are such a little clique!  So sarcastic and just talking bollocks.  Motson is the worst commentator ever, chuckling through inane facts that he's reading off a screen whilst pretending he's rattling them from his brain.

ITV have Townsend and Earle, 2 goons!  Pisses me off when they critique players, cos they were average to be generous.

Sky is shit too.  Redknapp is useless and when they wheel out that cockey wide boy fella Tony Gale for the lesser games, i want to put my head in a bucket of shit. I mean who the fuck is he!  Souness normally tells it right on there though.  Gullit always looks/acts stoned

Disappointed that its always the big teams winning the final (except when its us) but agree that I will watch this game but may have done something else should it have been Blackburn Watford.  Was glad Chelsea went through as I reckon Utd would have slaughtered Blackburn.  At least this won't be a formality.

Gullit's fucking weird, always touching people and giggling - he is entertaining though to be fair.