Author Topic: At least 174 Die At Football Match In Indonesia (Read 2254 times)

Samie · « **on:** October 2, 2022, 01:46:00 am »

News Breaking

RIP

https://apnews.com/article/sports-soccer-police-indonesia-java-c31edecf524ddbb1d3a4b276c581d0b0?taid=6338de08be0d170001531cf8&utm_campaign=TrueAnthem&utm_medium=AP&utm_source=Twitter

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Clashes between supporters of two Indonesian soccer teams in East Java province killed 125 fans and 2 police officers,
mostly trampled to death, police said Sunday.

Several brawls between supporters of the two rival soccer teams were reported inside the stadium after the Indonesian Premier League game ended with Persebaya Surabaya beating Arema Malang 3-2.

The fights prompted riot police to fire tear gas, which caused panic among supporters, said East Java Police Chief Nico Afinta.

Hundreds of people ran to an exit gate in an effort to avoid the tear gas. Some suffocated in the chaos and others were trampled, killing 34 almost instantly.

More than 300 were rushed to nearby hospitals to treat injuries but many died on the way and during a treatment, Afinta said.

Lee1-6Liv · « **Reply #1 on:** October 2, 2022, 01:49:17 am »

Reports now that 153 have died. Heartbreaking RIP.

The North Bank · « **Reply #2 on:** October 2, 2022, 04:36:32 am »

That is horrible, police in the middle of it all again. RIP

Mini Soda Scousephile · « **Reply #3 on:** October 2, 2022, 04:45:24 am »

Absolutely horrible

kavah · « **Reply #4 on:** October 2, 2022, 05:00:12 am »

Bloody hell - poor people at a football match.

Solomon Grundy · « **Reply #5 on:** October 2, 2022, 07:26:42 am »

Terrible news. RIP.

Not the wisest course of action to take by the police.

Tobelius · « **Reply #6 on:** October 2, 2022, 08:11:03 am »

Horrible news,RIP all victims.

Mass panic in an enclosed space and the result is usually something like this.

duvva 💅 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 2, 2022, 08:46:38 am »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945

Death toll is up to 174. Absolutely horrendous

TomDcs · « **Reply #8 on:** October 2, 2022, 09:01:11 am »

Bloody hell, awful.

Mister Flip Flop · « **Reply #9 on:** October 2, 2022, 09:08:04 am »

Just seen the footage on the news. Police firing tear gas inside the stadium

Linudden · « **Reply #10 on:** October 2, 2022, 09:11:10 am »

RIP and best wishes to those injured still alive.

Southeast Asia have a severe policing problem and that needs to be dealt with in those countries. Those who initiated the hooligan pitch invasion should still be tried for murder though.

macca007 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 2, 2022, 09:42:05 am »

Quote from: Linudden on October 2, 2022, 09:11:10 am

RIP and best wishes to those injured still alive.

Southeast Asia have a severe policing problem and that needs to be dealt with in those countries. Those who initiated the hooligan pitch invasion should still be tried for murder though.

It's mad that they sold 4k more tickets than capacity. Already a recipe for disaster if any trouble starts

Jshooters · « **Reply #12 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:01:24 am »

Quote from: Linudden on October 2, 2022, 09:11:10 am

RIP and best wishes to those injured still alive.

Southeast Asia have a severe policing problem and that needs to be dealt with in those countries. Those who initiated the hooligan pitch invasion should still be tried for murder though.

As should the police who fired teargas

Mister Flip Flop · « **Reply #13 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:10:13 am »

This coming a few months after our own fans been tear gassed in Paris also. How come football isn't willing to learn?

liverbloke · « **Reply #14 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:36:30 am »

those poor people

what we have here is 2 bitter rivals in an already over-crowded stadium

then we have hooliganism which needs policing

then we have the policing which seems antiquated and over the top - they seem to have learned nothing from history including the recent paris debacle

so the cause of these deaths is the organisation full stop - they should have managed those situations better and should have foreseen all possible scenarios just as they would if a fire broke out

SouthDerryLaggo · « **Reply #15 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:43:10 am »

Horrific this.

keyop · « **Reply #16 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:44:18 am »

That's terrible news, and sounds like a traumatic situation for all who were there and their wider families and friends. Sadly another football tragedy involving loss of life that will also open old wounds for many. RIP

El Lobo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:51:41 am »

Just horrific, Rest In Peace to all those poor people

mikeb58 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 2, 2022, 10:57:53 am »

Awful news...totally preventable you would think these days. No doubt we'll hear 'lessons to be learnt' etc etc, until the next time.

jillcwhomever · « **Reply #19 on:** October 2, 2022, 11:03:12 am »

Lessons never get learnt. I asked this in the Paris thread, after each report into what goes wrong, how many of these reports make their way around the different football authorities, so they can all learn from them? I would suggest nothing happens as UEFA are not interested in learning from the past when they can so easily blame it on the supporters.

RIP to all those who died.

redgriffin73 · « **Reply #20 on:** October 2, 2022, 11:21:57 am »

Absolutely terrifying and horrific, those poor people 😢

Son of Spion · « **Reply #21 on:** October 2, 2022, 11:29:51 am »

This is absolutely horrific.

Caligula? · « **Reply #22 on:** October 2, 2022, 11:46:24 am »

A few months ago I saw a documentary on YouTube about football in Indonesia. My God, watching it I remember being astounded there had been no major incidents as of yet and thinking it was only a matter of time.

RIP to all.

kennedy81 · « **Reply #23 on:** October 2, 2022, 12:28:03 pm »

Absolutely horrendous, fuck me.

kennedy81 · « **Reply #24 on:** October 2, 2022, 12:32:45 pm »

Quote from: Linudden on October 2, 2022, 09:11:10 am

RIP and best wishes to those injured still alive.

Southeast Asia have a severe policing problem and that needs to be dealt with in those countries. Those who initiated the hooligan pitch invasion should still be tried for murder though.

The police have questions to answer here. Launching tear gas around a football stadium goes against FIFA guidelines. There was only one set of fans in the ground, police should have been better able to deal with it.
It does show how dangerous pitch invasions can be though.

Gray Hamster · « **Reply #25 on:** October 2, 2022, 01:00:36 pm »

Quote from: kennedy81 on October 2, 2022, 12:32:45 pm

The police have questions to answer here. Launching tear gas around a football stadium goes against FIFA guidelines. There was only one set of fans in the ground, police should have been better able to deal with it.
It does show how dangerous pitch invasions can be though.

Reports are suggesting that the 20 or so tear gas shots by the police caused mass panic and hysteria resulting in the crush’s to the gates. Police have blamed fans and now blaming Indonesian FA for not advising them that tear gas was not allowed. Unbelievable, truly unbelievable. Police have really f*cked up here

oojason · « **Reply #26 on:** October 2, 2022, 01:06:48 pm »

Horrendous.

'At least 174 dead after crowd crush at Indonesian football match':-

Violence erupted after Arema’s home loss to Persebaya Surabaya
Police fired teargas into crowded stands in Malang

www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/indonesia-football-fans-killed-east-java-arema-malang

& www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-63105945

rodderzzz · « **Reply #27 on:** October 2, 2022, 02:22:28 pm »

The narrative of 'violence erupting' is also a bit of bollocks when you watch the whole, unedited footage of what happened after full time. There was a pitch invasion of fans protesting, that while not ideal, werent doing anything worse than what happened at Goodison for example a few months back, there didn't appear to be any violence in the protest until the police waded in and started hammering anyone they could get close too, then after the pitch was mostly cleared the fired a load of tear gas into the one end of the stadium that was enclosed. Criminal.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #28 on:** October 2, 2022, 02:44:16 pm »

Estimates of deaths seem to have come down…. But no one should be dying like this. It’s behind disgraceful.

Those poor poor people, and their poor families

Samie · « **Reply #29 on:** October 2, 2022, 02:46:10 pm »

https://twitter.com/LFC/status/1576480449441894400

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We are deeply saddened to hear of the events at Kanjuruhan Stadium, Malang, Indonesia.

The thoughts of everyone at Liverpool Football Club are with all those affected at this time.

John C · « **Reply #30 on:** October 2, 2022, 02:59:51 pm »

This is heart breaking, absolutely heart breaking.

Keith Lard · « **Reply #31 on:** October 2, 2022, 03:27:18 pm »

This is completely heartbreaking and brings back flashbacks from the past. When will authorities learn?

May everyone that perished rest in peace, and praying for those that have been injured.

has gone odd · « **Reply #32 on:** October 2, 2022, 03:27:30 pm »

Just seen this, utterly and truly gutted for the all those families.

Keith Lard · « **Reply #33 on:** October 2, 2022, 03:29:41 pm »

Quote from: rodderzzz on October 2, 2022, 02:22:28 pm

The narrative of 'violence erupting' is also a bit of bollocks when you watch the whole, unedited footage of what happened after full time. There was a pitch invasion of fans protesting, that while not ideal, werent doing anything worse than what happened at Goodison for example a few months back, there didn't appear to be any violence in the protest until the police waded in and started hammering anyone they could get close too, then after the pitch was mostly cleared the fired a load of tear gas into the one end of the stadium that was enclosed. Criminal.

This stuff is happening all too frequently. We’re blessed to feel safe and have moderate policing when we go to Anfield. May this forever be the case - NOBODY should ever fear getting hurt when going to an event. It’s just madness.

Hazell · « **Reply #34 on:** October 2, 2022, 04:53:59 pm »

Awful this, police yet again heavily involved. RIP.

4pool · « **Reply #35 on:** October 2, 2022, 06:00:34 pm »

Sad, sad, sad deal.

Unfortunately, won't be the last time something like this happens. Lessons are never learned.

Condolences to all the families. RIP.

TepidT2O · « **Reply #36 on:** October 2, 2022, 06:35:16 pm »

Quote from: Hazell on October 2, 2022, 04:53:59 pm

Awful this, police yet again heavily involved. RIP.

police denying their culpability again….

elsewhere · « **Reply #37 on:** October 2, 2022, 06:37:01 pm »

horrific news, may them rest in peace

redbyrdz · « **Reply #38 on:** October 2, 2022, 08:01:46 pm »

Horrible news. Nobody should ever go to a match and not come home.

Some of you on here should be ashamed of themselves. Calling the fans murderers and blaming hooliganism. What the fucking fuck. A pitch invasion isn't hooliganism, and the ones who caused the deaths are the police.

RobinHood · « **Reply #39 on:** October 2, 2022, 11:11:33 pm »

Some of the videos of it are crazy, police firing tear gas indiscriminately into the stands in response to a pitch invasion. Just unfathomable, along with the sheer thuggery towards the fans on the pitch.

I don’t know much about Indonesia and whether they’ll be any accountability for this, but at the very least the footballing authorities must absolutely outlaw tear gas in relation to football or stadium control. Read that it’s there as a ‘guideline’ but in my opinion it should be banned entirely. Nothing good comes from tear gas.